RE: Behold the new Toyota Supra!

RE: Behold the new Toyota Supra!

Tuesday 15th January

Behold the new Toyota Supra!

Five years after the concept and 25 years after the last Supra was launched in the UK, the A90 arrives - first details here



Well, isn't this exciting? It's seldom nowadays that new sports cars are actually launched, leave alone ones with some notable heritage and a huge weight of expectation. But here we are, more than four decades after Toyota first created a Supra, with a new one ready to reach customers.

To the numbers, first off, because that's inevitably where discussion will lead given how well acquainted we are with the looks. As per the prototype, the production GR Supra is powered by the familiar BMW 3.0-litre straight-six turbo, with 340hp at 5,000-6,500rpm and 369lb ft at 1,600-4,500rpm - exactly the same figures, to the rpm, as found in a Z4 M40i. However, with mention of short ratios for the lower gears and a 40kg weight advantage - the Supra coming in at 1,495kg without driver - the Toyota is claimed to be quicker, with 0-62mph taking 4.3 seconds. Top speed is limited to 155mph.


And while we're on the numbers... An A90 Supra is 4,379mm long (the old car was 4,520mm), 1,854mm wide and 1,292mm tall. A 2,470mm wheelbase is shorter than a GT86. The tyres are Michelin Pilot Super Sports, 255/35 ZR 19 at the front and 275/35 ZR 19 at the back; the brakes lurking nearby are 348mm discs up front and 345mm astern, using Brembo four-piston calipers. The fuel tank is 52 litres, the CO2 is 170g/km and the boot holds 290 litres - phew.

To more subjective matters. Toyota describes the Supra has embracing a 'Condensed Extreme' design language; as far as can be told that seems to mean a traditional sports car silhouette - long nose, stubby tail, cabin towards the end - with more modern detailing such as the LED lights. With clear links to the FT-1 concept and little changed from the prototype, the double bubble roof has made production, offering both aero benefit (because of the reduced frontal area) and an improvement to headroom. Chief Designer Nobuo Nakamura speaks of something "visually and physically exciting to sports car fans", and Toyota surely deserves praise for actually delivering on something genuinely compact and still purposeful, in a world seemingly obsessed with enormous cars.


Inside the BMW influence is clear, despite Toyota's claims of a "perfectly driver-focused cockpit inspired by the feel and layout of single-seater race cars". Still, who better to pinch from than BMW? Toyota couldn't win either way: do this and face claims of lazy plagiarism, or go their own way and most likely fail to stack up in terms of material quality. For what it's worth, there are a few things to differentiate the Supra from the Z4: the instrument display is different, including a head up display, and both occupants get knee pads. Anyone who's driven a GT86 with any enthusiasm will know the benefit of those...

Other points of note? Plenty. All GR Supras sold in the UK and Europe will receive an active differential, promising fully open to 100 per cent lock "with instant response" where required. Its behaviour can be adjusted, along with that of the throttle response, engine sound, shift pattern, damping and steering with the selection of sport mode. Body rigidity is said to be greater even than the Lexus LFA; the suspension naturally said to benefit as a result. With aluminium control arms, light but strong subframes and 'high performance' wheel hubs, the Supra will reputedly offer "precise cornering characteristics." To that end testing has taken place on "challenging roads worldwide" as well as the Nordschleife. There isn't a lap time for the latter yet, though it must be worth noting that sportauto lapped a Z4 in less than eight minutes.


So that's the GR Supra, then, the first global product from Gazoo Racing (hence the name) and, given what we all now know, a very exciting prospect. In the UK buyers will have the choice of a standard model and a Supra Pro, the latter adding adaptive cruise control, auto air-con, electric seats and an upgraded infotainment system - unsurprisingly it is expected to account for the majority of UK sales.

If that's not enough, Toyota is also making available 24 A90 Edition Supras for the UK at £56,945 apiece. Based on Pro spec but in the unique Storm Grey matt paint with red leather combo seen here, it is being offered to the first customers who convert their pre-sales reservation into a vehicle order. Those that do not will have eight colours to choose from, as yet unconfirmed but said to include yellow and blue as well as the red we're familiar with. Lucky Supra souls over here will also receive ownership rewards including "Supra-themed activities, events and branded items."

The cost? £52,695 for the standard GR Supra, or £54,000 for the Pro. Broadly competitive, then, with the M2 Competition (from £50,975), a 718 Cayman S (£51,835) and Alpine A110 (£50,805 for a Legende edition). Or might it tempt you back into an old Supra? Either way, it would seem that Toyota is off to a good start - welcome back Supra!


 

 











 

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Discussion

MrScrot

Original Poster:

66 posts

101 months

Monday 14th January
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Finally!

Looks nice in grey. Dashboard hasn't carried over any motifs from the mk4 but overall I find the design quite pleasing.

cib24

704 posts

92 months

Monday 14th January
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Hmm...How long until a 2JZ is swapped into this car and the bumper is replaced with an aftermarket one that looks better?

2 months from first delivery?

vz-r_dave

3,346 posts

157 months

Monday 14th January
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The difference a colour can make, it looks fantastic in the grey but odd in red. Obviously these are pictures so | will reserve judgement until I see it in the flesh but how awesome, its finally here.

easytiger123

1,626 posts

148 months

Monday 14th January
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Hideous, in every colour from every angle.

rampageturke

910 posts

101 months

Monday 14th January
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Hey Matt, how about some higher res, not horribly compressed images for your articles? its 2019.
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HumanSteamroller

52 posts

16 months

Monday 14th January
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Errr... did they not supply high resolution press images? The graphical artefacts on those are horrendous!

Still, I like the car.

Fire99

9,515 posts

168 months

Monday 14th January
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I have to say it's starting to grow on me a bit. Nice that it doesn't appear to be huge either..

HumanSteamroller

52 posts

16 months

Monday 14th January
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Do you know what... now, don't shoot me here, but... it kind of reminds me of a beefier MX5.

TheAlastair34

183 posts

67 months

Monday 14th January
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cib24 said:
Hmm...How long until a 2JZ is swapped into this car and the bumper is replaced with an aftermarket one that looks better?

2 months from first delivery?
Why would anyone want to go backwords and do that?

I get the 2JZ is a great engine but the BMW unit ive seen do really good numbers with a turbo swap and its already in the car!

bobbylondonuk

2,076 posts

129 months

Monday 14th January
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It is a bigger version of the GT86 in terms of power, handling, interior. The car is lower, wider, shorter than the GT86. Basically a low square go kart with 340hp inline turbo 6 engine. If it has DCT, then it is a cracker of a car! I own the GT86 and I can see how it will be a step up and highly competitive with the rest of the products at the 50k range.


boxedin

714 posts

65 months

Monday 14th January
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Blimey, its got a BMW centre console and iDrive to match the engine.

damianmkv

574 posts

82 months

Monday 14th January
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looks like a z4 inside and out, powered by BMW. Doesn't do it for me


housen

1,507 posts

131 months

Monday 14th January
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look at all the bmw switch gear and screen etc

shame

gmaz

3,257 posts

149 months

Monday 14th January
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Disappointing to see that it is a re-bodied Z4, and so they didn't use any of the Toyota hybrid tech for torque fill, FWD, EV mode.

Melchett1905

442 posts

3 months

Monday 14th January
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Not a huge fan from these images. Looks a bit awkward. Too upright, Would have to see one in the flesh.

RobM77

31,959 posts

173 months

Monday 14th January
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Looks good. Shame the steering wheel isn't symmetrical - to me that hints they've had to make a last minute change to give the driver room to move his legs after cocking up the cabin ergonomics to make the driver sit with bent legs.

gofasterrosssco

1,114 posts

175 months

Monday 14th January
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easytiger123 said:
Hideous, in every colour from every angle.
I'm usually quite a Japanese car fan (having had many in the past), but I'm struggling with this.. It doesn't seem to have any particular USP.

If it was my cash, and I wanted a 'sports car', this would come an easy third behind the Alpine and Cayman..

vz-r_dave

3,346 posts

157 months

Monday 14th January
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gofasterrosssco said:
easytiger123 said:
Hideous, in every colour from every angle.
I'm usually quite a Japanese car fan (having had many in the past), but I'm struggling with this.. It doesn't seem to have any particular USP.

If it was my cash, and I wanted a 'sports car', this would come an easy third behind the Alpine and Cayman..
Lol, you have never driven it, seen it in the flesh yet so quick to judge on its USP....... welcome PH.

oilit

642 posts

117 months

Monday 14th January
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to these eyes, this:-



has a hint of this :



and the rear light treatment reminds me a bit of the new Griff.

The side lines are very dramatic though !

Edited by oilit on Monday 14th January 15:25

Robmarriott

1,410 posts

97 months

Monday 14th January
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Can someone photoshop the front bumper to remove the two weird teeth and leave it with a single opening please?