RE: Behold the new Toyota Supra!

RE: Behold the new Toyota Supra!

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Ursicles

1,068 posts

242 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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And the idrive from a 1 series!

jayemm89

4,036 posts

130 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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evojam said:
What is it with designers these days? have they totally lost the ability to make a good looking car!
Actually, yes they have. I think it might even be Harry Metcalfe who said car designers only really get anything approaching free reign when it comes to the back of a car now. The front end is so heavily legislated, then manufacturing realities are so strict, that they don't have the crazy freedom they once did.

I need to see this car in the flesh before I call judgement on it. I'm rather disappointed (albeit not surprised) that the engine's numbers are quite so close to the BMW version. It does beg the question, what is actually different, if anything - from the BM version.

sdiggle

182 posts

90 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Looks like a Datsun Z car with a BMW interior. Not very original....

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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It makes the pig-ugly new (if ever) TVR look almost ok in comparison ....

Poster above - the DB11 doesn't have a Merc engine.

Murph7355

37,714 posts

256 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Tuvra said:
I thought the same, and to think Toyota teased us with this hehe :-

Goes to show what a few "tweaks" can do.

And all the less well resolved lumps and bumps seem to be so they can put fake vents over it.

Rubbish.

Don Colione

93 posts

76 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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It has been tuned, says Toyota, to offer ‘segment-leading’ torque performance from very low revs.

Maximum 362lb ft of torque available between 1600-4500rpm

52lb ft more torque than the 310lb ft the Porsche 718 Cayman S produces between 2100-4500rpm

Supra is 0.3sec quicker from 0-62mph

The 335bhp developed by the GR Supra’s engine is 10bhp down on the 718 Cayman S

- Autocar


I like its compact dimensions, low weight, low cog, and super high structural integrity (LFA)/cost ratio!
The interior is cool or good enough...

I can see why those who don't like it, don't like it.


If Toyota built everything in house, the price would have been way higher & too much effort for such low volume sales/profits.


It seems like a modern, sporty, GT - Don't forget there will be more powerful 'performance-oriented' variations to come, hopefully with manual transmissions and spoilers yum .....








FIREBIRDC9

736 posts

137 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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After watching the Shmee video.
Its a yes from me!

And stop grumbling over the engine.

Aston Martin use Mercedes Engines
Lamborghini use Audi Engines
Toyota used to have Yamaha assistance with engines.

I see no problem with joint projects like this.
I would very much like to see one in white.


unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Shappers24 said:
Shmee has ordered one and done a walk around

https://youtu.be/Ka4Vo_ZvUaM

Looks better in video than pictures but looks like a massive front wheel arch gap!
it's impressive that he's built an online brand of himself

but I must confess that I didn't hear much of the first moments of this video because I couldn't stop laughing

of course it's unsporting of me, but, really, nobody should be working so hard to smile so much like that; it's like something out of Clockwork Orange, the first moments of smiling in that cavernous white studio





mcelliott

8,662 posts

181 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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easytiger123 said:
Hideous, in every colour from every angle.
That rear end is truly nasty.

Dannbodge

2,165 posts

121 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Not sure about this.

I'll wait until I see one in the flesh before I pass judgement

scottygib553

531 posts

95 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Forgot how incredible the concept car was. I'd take a pass on this one. The rear still looks good but from any front/side angle it doesn't look great to me.

Trevor555

4,440 posts

84 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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spookly said:
I was expecting the Supra to be more like £40k or a bit lower.... not £54K. That's insane.
Agree, it's too expensive for how it's turned out.

I wanted it to be 70k plus and a lot more hard-core, what they've produced here should have been badged a Celica.

FIREBIRDC9

736 posts

137 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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FIREBIRDC9 said:
After watching the Shmee video.
Its a yes from me!

And stop grumbling over the engine.

Aston Martin use Mercedes Engines
Lamborghini use Audi Engines
Toyota used to have Yamaha assistance with engines.

I see no problem with joint projects like this.
I would very much like to see one in white.
And i have literally just spotted the post prior to this one!

Doh!

Looks fantastic in white!
Another one for the list of cars i like but will never afford!

ashleyman

6,986 posts

99 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Why is it so ugly tho.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Isn't this the car that people were expecting from the GT86. I'm sure it will be highly tunable in true Supra style. I hope it sells but I worry that the market has moved on from far east monsters and people now prefer a fast ford/ vag hatchback

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Good looking car, IMO, and I'm a big fan of the B58 engine too.

I would have liked to see them try a bit harder with the interior though. Custom instrument cluster aside, it's a copy and paste BMW job, even down to the look of the iDrive menus. Surely a bit of custom design or reskinning wouldn't have gone amiss.

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

256 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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looks like someone gave a GT86 the Max Power / Fast and Furious treatment, which i imagine was exactly the look they were going for!

sadly yet another example of a manufacturer producing a stunning concept car - new BMW Z4 for example and completely cocking up the production vehicle.

Cloudy147

2,720 posts

183 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Tuvra said:
easytiger123 said:
Hideous, in every colour from every angle.
I thought the same, and to think Toyota teased us with this hehe :-

Toyota have form for this. The Celica concept:

What we wanted:


What we got:



And to think that Toyota made so many great looking cars in the 90's - and still clearly make nice concepts too. The old Supra used to 'wow' as it drove around, I can't imagine this new one will do the same. Maybe the Lexus LFA should have been badged as a Supra.smile

Gecko1978

9,708 posts

157 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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unsprung said:
Shappers24 said:
Shmee has ordered one and done a walk around

https://youtu.be/Ka4Vo_ZvUaM

Looks better in video than pictures but looks like a massive front wheel arch gap!
it's impressive that he's built an online brand of himself

but I must confess that I didn't hear much of the first moments of this video because I couldn't stop laughing

of course it's unsporting of me, but, really, nobody should be working so hard to smile so much like that; it's like something out of Clockwork Orange, the first moments of smiling in that cavernous white studio
In the video the car looks much nicer than the pics but having never seen Shmee before what is up with his smile

mikEsprit

827 posts

186 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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It's too similar looking to the Z4.