RE: Ford RS1700T: Spotted

[s2racer]

GravelBen said:

Why is PH squeezing articles into a frame that only uses the middle third of my browser window, and distorting pictures to fit? I'm looking a cartoon-squished Escort

Anyone else having the same issue?

i don't get badly resized images but the site is squeezed into the centre 1000 pixels. it's in need of a rebuild, looks adaptive rather than responsive, if i resize my browser not much happens (you dont get a mobile view)

that escort looks broken

[filski666]

what's going on with the front wheels? Surely they shouldn't be that far forwards?

[aeropilot]

The late Mick Jones............an absolute legend from the Boreham days.

[PixelpeepS3]

RS200 and the XR3i had a illegitimate litter

[aeropilot]

PixelpeepS3 said:

RS200 and the XR3i had a illegitimate litter

Err, except the RS1700T was before the RS200......

[PixelpeepS3]

aeropilot said:

PixelpeepS3 said:

RS200 and the XR3i had a illegitimate litter

Err, except the RS1700T was before the RS200......

Sorry i should have said a DeLorean DMC-12 was involved..

screwed with the timeline something chronic

[warch]

I'm sure I saw one at the Woodpecker Rally, 2000ish give or take a year or two. Presumably not a genuine one, although you did still see Metro 6R4s back then too.

[vanschpunk]

Jerseyhpc said:

The 1700T is the predecessor of the RS200 and bequeathed many components to it. As a failure it is a glorious one and I have always lusted after one. There are 4 known cars remaining and one mythological one that may or may not be held by Ford. The prototypes were shipped to South Africa after the programme was cancelled and they have turned up from there. Malcolm Wilson has a road car in his collection.

Have you solid evidence this is true??? The story goes that there was around 18 prototypes made, of which there was a mix and mash of variations - 4wd, fwd, rwd, turbo, non turbo, supercharged, itbs etc. And the story is that 8 exist and the other 10 where crushed!!

[Jerseyhpc]

Have you solid evidence this is true??? The story goes that there was around 18 prototypes made, of which there was a mix and mash of variations - 4wd, fwd, rwd, turbo, non turbo, supercharged, itbs etc. And the story is that 8 exist and the other 10 where crushed!!

From what I remember, the first 4 or 5 were mock ups, show cars and non runners. Several more test mules of different spec were built and ultimately broken up or written off.
Wilson’s was the only road car and 4 were sent to Africa.
Different engine specs were used against each other as were different transmission and suspension set ups.
I don’t think 4 or fwd were used on the prototypes.

[Jerseyhpc]

Midgster said:

Don1 said:

Jerseyhpc said:

The 1700T is the predecessor of the RS200 and bequeathed many components to it. As a failure it is a glorious one and I have always lusted after one. There are 4 known cars remaining and one mythological one that may or may not be held by Ford. The prototypes were shipped to South Africa after the programme was cancelled and they have turned up from there. Malcolm Wilson has a road car in his collection.

The very definition of TLDR

I thought I was just having a deja vu moment.

Not really..just adding a little extra while not trying to bore you to death.

[bloomen]

I remember seeing a road ish one at M Sport on display. Not sure whether it's original.

I think I'd rather commission a replica myself. Weird how the mk3 suddenly becomes cool when the driven wheels swap ends.

[generationx]

Malcolm’s is blue, that’s probably the car you saw.

[Jerseyhpc]

Yes, it’s blue. The MK 3 is a handsome thing when in RS set up. Very clean and simple.

[ducnick]

Cambs_Stuart said:

It does look mich higher at the front. The front wheels also look very far forward in the arches.
But 350 bhp in not very much weight? I bet its entertaining to drive.

Try and imagine it without the mk3 escort body. It’s not a mk3 escort. It’s a rwd rally car hence it runs a massive amount of suspension travel and big castor hence the front wheels look a long way forward in the arches when it’s posing for photos. Probably less so when it’s landing on its front wheels over jumps at 100 mph in a dark forest stage.

[Earl of Petrol]

I’d forgotten these had existed, a blast from my mis-spent!

[Coatesy351]

No arse down stance on this one.

[Mr.Jimbo]

warch said:

I'm sure I saw one at the Woodpecker Rally, 2000ish give or take a year or two. Presumably not a genuine one, although you did still see Metro 6R4s back then too.

Could well have been a Gartrak G3 escort, which were effectively Mk2 floorpans grafted into a Mk3 body iirc? Used for Rallycross typically.

Not arguing with you - just there were a lot more G3s than genuine RS1700Ts built.

[warch]

Mr.Jimbo said:

warch said:

I'm sure I saw one at the Woodpecker Rally, 2000ish give or take a year or two. Presumably not a genuine one, although you did still see Metro 6R4s back then too.

Could well have been a Gartrak G3 escort, which were effectively Mk2 floorpans grafted into a Mk3 body iirc? Used for Rallycross typically.

Not arguing with you - just there were a lot more G3s than genuine RS1700Ts built.

I'm sure you're right, cheers! At the time mk 3 and 4 XR3is were the poor man boy racer transport of choice so seeing one on a rally stage, nose up, tail down was an interesting sight.

[fttm]

A guy called Simon Nutter(?) used to rally one back in the day . FWIW I used to co-drive a MK3 rwd Escort , called a DM3 , it was built by Dennis Moody from an XR3 grafted onto the MK2 floorpan powered by a 2ltr BDG , stunning piece of kit .

[soad]

sortedcossie said:

Now that is a proper rare Ford.

Never seen one. Don't care what it costs either.