RE: Seen, but not touched: Aston Martin Valkyrie

RE: Seen, but not touched: Aston Martin Valkyrie

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_Sorted_

331 posts

76 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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E65Ross said:
Lol, you best hand your CV to Adrian Newey then and tell him how to do it.
That is actually quite amusing.

andy74b

832 posts

226 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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_Sorted_ said:
Roll your eyes as much as you like. Please go to page one of thread. The design is weak.
Seriously? How many times you seen the car and been to the factory to go through the details?

WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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_Sorted_ said:
If this car was presented as a student project it would be given a lukewarm reception. Alongside late eighties Aston Zagato in terms of marks out of ten.
Have you read anything about this car or are you trolling ?

_Sorted_

331 posts

76 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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andy74b said:
Seriously? How many times you seen the car and been to the factory to go through the details?
Never. My opinion for what it is worth, and that is not a lot, is that the design is not great. As in F50 vs an F40 opinion. Just a view and if you love it, no disrespect. Just a different view.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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_Sorted_ said:
The design is weak.
I totally disagree, I think it's spectacular. When you look at it from the rear 3/4 angle you realise just how little car there actually is. It's a masterpiece in packaging, it's hard to credit there's room for a rubber band in there let alone a v12 with KERS and 2 people. From certain angles you can see right through the car, the tunnels would embarrass a 962, you can practically see the air flowing through it, it's astonishing. What's more I think it will look even better in the flesh. A few weeks ago the Senna was the state of the art, the ultimate road legal track car, its ungainly looks determined by the aero for its monumental 800kg of downforce. The Valkyrie is supposedly going to be more than double that. ''Weak'' you say! It makes last years hyper cars look 30 years old.

Olivera

7,068 posts

238 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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cidered77 said:
I'm a bit of a closet laptime geek - and I am still waiting for a hypercar, even a track based one, to be convincingly quicker than my 25k's worth of club racing car, with a crate engine duratec in the back. P1, LaFerrari, Senna, 918 - I'd still beat them around Brands, Silverstone, etc.
Your racing car is undoubtedly very quick and capable around most circuits, but move it to a much higher speed track like the Nordschleife and it would be a different outcome. Your MCR would get utterly spanked by a Radical SR8, yet the SR8 is now slower than a GT2 RS or a an Aventador SVJ.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

121 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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WCZ said:
TIGA84 said:
Did they ever deliver any proper customer cars in the end?
a few yes, scarily fast to drive

there was a couple for sale last year @ £130k iirc
The only ones I'd seen are/were at the Stratton Motor Company and both were up for 200K. The orange one they had seemed to be up for sale for an eternity. 130K would be a lot easier to stomach if you were taking a punt on one but even then there must be a myriad of equally talented cars available which wouldn't present such a risk.

Edited by gigglebug on Wednesday 23 January 22:41

Macboy

732 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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boxedin said:
I think I saw three of these at the back end of 2018 on a small Welsh Road. On one of those horribly lumpy, bumpy roads; looked like a photo session. Dunno, I wasn't stopping.
They said in the latest interviews that they haven't built any running cars yet.

0a

23,879 posts

193 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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The stance of the xj220. Lovely.

Macboy

732 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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fblm said:
It's a masterpiece in packaging, it's hard to credit there's room for a rubber band in there let alone a v12 with KERS and 2 people.
I wonder if you've actually seen it in reality? It may seat two people but they are two people of jockey/racing driver proportions especially with the size of the doors and sills. It's LMP tight and seems to be far from the (even somewhat limited) practicality of other supercars/hypercars from the perspective of having a driver and passenger in.

Housey

2,076 posts

226 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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andy74b said:
_Sorted_ said:
Roll your eyes as much as you like. Please go to page one of thread. The design is weak.
Seriously? How many times you seen the car and been to the factory to go through the details?
You been playing Gran Tourismo again? hehe

Housey

2,076 posts

226 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Olivera said:
cidered77 said:
I'm a bit of a closet laptime geek - and I am still waiting for a hypercar, even a track based one, to be convincingly quicker than my 25k's worth of club racing car, with a crate engine duratec in the back. P1, LaFerrari, Senna, 918 - I'd still beat them around Brands, Silverstone, etc.
Your racing car is undoubtedly very quick and capable around most circuits, but move it to a much higher speed track like the Nordschleife and it would be a different outcome. Your MCR would get utterly spanked by a Radical SR8, yet the SR8 is now slower than a GT2 RS or a an Aventador SVJ.
If it gets within 30 seconds of the 919 around the Ring, I’ll be massively impressed.

humblesabot

55 posts

126 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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That's an interesting comparison, the 919 that is, because we only know the time for the "Tribute" and it's safe to say it's categorically quicker than the rules compliant 919. No matter how fast the Valkyrie turns out to be, the 919 Tribute is pretty much the fastest circuit car going, by a very wide margin. It's faster by far than any non-hybrid LMP1.

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

161 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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_Sorted_ said:
Roll your eyes as much as you like. Please go to page one of thread. The design is weak.
Kind of agree but it is incredibly engineering/aero driven so that's why it's not "beautiful" as such.
Looks ace to me in the same way the Gumpert did though.

Jex

837 posts

127 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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" A titanium Aston Martin badge is 99 percent lighter than the standard badge,"

99% lighter! What on earth is the standard badge made from - it must be much more dense and much thicker. Or perhaps it's 9.9%.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

187 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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It looks sensational!
I love the top down view showing the suspension arms.
Can’t wait to see/hear it in action.

Maccles

69 posts

117 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Even if most of these cars will be bought by oligarchs, oil rich brats and Chinese collectors and never see a fast road or track, if that’s what it takes for a car like this to be created and to have a Union Jack on it then that’s fine by me. I’d rather such a market existed and allowed Aston Martin to build a car like this, even if all I’ll ever experience of it is seeing one at Goodwood, a poster on my son’s bedroom wall and maybe if I’m really lucky seeing one being paraded around a track at Le Mans.

Davislove

2,295 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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With this amount of aero tech you need to be a highly skilled racing driver to exploit its limits, even maybe 70% of its limits, surely?

Wouldn't it be better to select a customer base with the talents to drive the car and hence showing off Newey's work?

Ikemi

8,438 posts

204 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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The Green Triangle said:
Ikemi said:
E65Ross said:
The Green Triangle said:
Save a gram here and there.... Then the fat bastid gets in it. What's the point??
Because a 1000kg car with a 100kg driver will weigh less than a 1300kg car with a 100kg driver?
The maths is undeniable! That said, I can see his point. Why pay a premium for marginally lighter hardware when some owners could just go on a diet and save a few pounds - in both senses of the word! hehe The other argument is, if you have the spare cash, why not? I could certainly increase my Lotus' power-to-weight ratio by cutting down on the biscuits.
To be clear, the article talked of saving tiny amounts of weight i.e grams from different types of badges for a rather large outlay. Not 300kg in the example above!!!

Of course, choosing whether to wear a belt or not when driving this would have a far bigger benefit. So it seems rather absurd if you ask me.

From a biscuit lover.
I was agreeing with you! smile Perhaps it didn't read like that ... ?

Streetrod

6,468 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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The original concept I thought looked clumsy but these latest renditions look right on the money, especially the track pack. By the way can you get the track back body work on the street legal chassis set up?

Anyway it always amuses me when a supercar maker like Aston or McLaren makes a massive fuss over things like fade away paint jobs. Us folk in the hotrod and custom community have been doing this kind of thing for decades. The most famous proponent would probably be Gene Winfield who perfected the technique over 60 years ago. The fact that the man is in his 90's and is still working on and painting cars to a standard the OEM's could only hope to match all over the world is amazing to me.