RE: Seen, but not touched: Aston Martin Valkyrie
Discussion
andy74b said:
Seriously? How many times you seen the car and been to the factory to go through the details?
Never. My opinion for what it is worth, and that is not a lot, is that the design is not great. As in F50 vs an F40 opinion. Just a view and if you love it, no disrespect. Just a different view. _Sorted_ said:
The design is weak.
I totally disagree, I think it's spectacular. When you look at it from the rear 3/4 angle you realise just how little car there actually is. It's a masterpiece in packaging, it's hard to credit there's room for a rubber band in there let alone a v12 with KERS and 2 people. From certain angles you can see right through the car, the tunnels would embarrass a 962, you can practically see the air flowing through it, it's astonishing. What's more I think it will look even better in the flesh. A few weeks ago the Senna was the state of the art, the ultimate road legal track car, its ungainly looks determined by the aero for its monumental 800kg of downforce. The Valkyrie is supposedly going to be more than double that. ''Weak'' you say! It makes last years hyper cars look 30 years old.cidered77 said:
I'm a bit of a closet laptime geek - and I am still waiting for a hypercar, even a track based one, to be convincingly quicker than my 25k's worth of club racing car, with a crate engine duratec in the back. P1, LaFerrari, Senna, 918 - I'd still beat them around Brands, Silverstone, etc.
Your racing car is undoubtedly very quick and capable around most circuits, but move it to a much higher speed track like the Nordschleife and it would be a different outcome. Your MCR would get utterly spanked by a Radical SR8, yet the SR8 is now slower than a GT2 RS or a an Aventador SVJ.WCZ said:
TIGA84 said:
Did they ever deliver any proper customer cars in the end?
a few yes, scarily fast to drivethere was a couple for sale last year @ £130k iirc
Edited by gigglebug on Wednesday 23 January 22:41
fblm said:
It's a masterpiece in packaging, it's hard to credit there's room for a rubber band in there let alone a v12 with KERS and 2 people.
I wonder if you've actually seen it in reality? It may seat two people but they are two people of jockey/racing driver proportions especially with the size of the doors and sills. It's LMP tight and seems to be far from the (even somewhat limited) practicality of other supercars/hypercars from the perspective of having a driver and passenger in.Olivera said:
cidered77 said:
I'm a bit of a closet laptime geek - and I am still waiting for a hypercar, even a track based one, to be convincingly quicker than my 25k's worth of club racing car, with a crate engine duratec in the back. P1, LaFerrari, Senna, 918 - I'd still beat them around Brands, Silverstone, etc.
Your racing car is undoubtedly very quick and capable around most circuits, but move it to a much higher speed track like the Nordschleife and it would be a different outcome. Your MCR would get utterly spanked by a Radical SR8, yet the SR8 is now slower than a GT2 RS or a an Aventador SVJ.That's an interesting comparison, the 919 that is, because we only know the time for the "Tribute" and it's safe to say it's categorically quicker than the rules compliant 919. No matter how fast the Valkyrie turns out to be, the 919 Tribute is pretty much the fastest circuit car going, by a very wide margin. It's faster by far than any non-hybrid LMP1.
Even if most of these cars will be bought by oligarchs, oil rich brats and Chinese collectors and never see a fast road or track, if that’s what it takes for a car like this to be created and to have a Union Jack on it then that’s fine by me. I’d rather such a market existed and allowed Aston Martin to build a car like this, even if all I’ll ever experience of it is seeing one at Goodwood, a poster on my son’s bedroom wall and maybe if I’m really lucky seeing one being paraded around a track at Le Mans.
The Green Triangle said:
Ikemi said:
E65Ross said:
The Green Triangle said:
Save a gram here and there.... Then the fat bastid gets in it. What's the point??
Because a 1000kg car with a 100kg driver will weigh less than a 1300kg car with a 100kg driver?Of course, choosing whether to wear a belt or not when driving this would have a far bigger benefit. So it seems rather absurd if you ask me.
From a biscuit lover.
The original concept I thought looked clumsy but these latest renditions look right on the money, especially the track pack. By the way can you get the track back body work on the street legal chassis set up?
Anyway it always amuses me when a supercar maker like Aston or McLaren makes a massive fuss over things like fade away paint jobs. Us folk in the hotrod and custom community have been doing this kind of thing for decades. The most famous proponent would probably be Gene Winfield who perfected the technique over 60 years ago. The fact that the man is in his 90's and is still working on and painting cars to a standard the OEM's could only hope to match all over the world is amazing to me.
Anyway it always amuses me when a supercar maker like Aston or McLaren makes a massive fuss over things like fade away paint jobs. Us folk in the hotrod and custom community have been doing this kind of thing for decades. The most famous proponent would probably be Gene Winfield who perfected the technique over 60 years ago. The fact that the man is in his 90's and is still working on and painting cars to a standard the OEM's could only hope to match all over the world is amazing to me.
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