RE: Seen, but not touched: Aston Martin Valkyrie
Discussion
Nerdherder said:
RDMcG said:
Assuming I had the funds, ( which I assuredly do not), this is not a car I would want. Way too OTT. More of a sculpture or an art object than an actual car you would happily thrash.
No worries, I’d happliy take your slot. Grew up on SciFi, so love this blend of cutting edge tech and slightly otherworldly looks."....Of course, there's no such thing as bad taste, only other people's, and it will be possible to go - how should I put this? - more 'Mansory' if the mood takes. From a relatively restrained 24 Carat 'Gold Pack' which puts precious metal under the paint lacquer through to the sort of extreme paint finishes and graphics which a YouTube supercar vlogger might regard as a bit much...."
I appreciate that if AM want to sell these cars, they need to cater for all manner of customer's desires. I do think it's a shame however that they need to offer bling options, on what is essentially a road legal race car. Surely there must be 150 high rollers out there whose tastes are a bit more old school and don't expect a 'Gold Pack' paint finish - or am I just out of touch? (probably!)
I appreciate that if AM want to sell these cars, they need to cater for all manner of customer's desires. I do think it's a shame however that they need to offer bling options, on what is essentially a road legal race car. Surely there must be 150 high rollers out there whose tastes are a bit more old school and don't expect a 'Gold Pack' paint finish - or am I just out of touch? (probably!)
cidered77 said:
daveco said:
cidered77 said:
RDMcG said:
Assuming I had the funds, ( which I assuredly do not), this is not a car I would want. Way too OTT. More of a sculpture or an art object than an actual car you would happily thrash.
It's not a show pony - if the laptime claims are even 80% true this is an absolute revolution in pure performance vs. any other supercar, hypercar, etc ever produced. I'm a bit of a closet laptime geek - and I am still waiting for a hypercar, even a track based one, to be convincingly quicker than my 25k's worth of club racing car, with a crate engine duratec in the back. P1, LaFerrari, Senna, 918 - I'd still beat them around Brands, Silverstone, etc.
So as a benchmark - that's about a 2:08 around Silverstone GP. This thing is claiming LMP1 like times - that's 1:40-1:45 range.
That gap between this thing and today's multi-million hypercar/track only special seems as big to me as the gap between today's hypercar and a hot hatch... it's staggering if they can pull it off.
This will be a 1100hp and 1050kg and LMP1s are about 800hp and 1,000kg so it should beat them!
AMGSee55 said:
"....Of course, there's no such thing as bad taste, only other people's, and it will be possible to go - how should I put this? - more 'Mansory' if the mood takes. From a relatively restrained 24 Carat 'Gold Pack' which puts precious metal under the paint lacquer through to the sort of extreme paint finishes and graphics which a YouTube supercar vlogger might regard as a bit much...."
I appreciate that if AM want to sell these cars, they need to cater for all manner of customer's desires. I do think it's a shame however that they need to offer bling options, on what is essentially a road legal race car. Surely there must be 150 high rollers out there whose tastes are a bit more old school and don't expect a 'Gold Pack' paint finish - or am I just out of touch? (probably!)
It's interesting that gold - or rose gold as it was called on the Zagato series vanquish (i think) - is apparently very trendy - evidenced by the high street having clothing and accessories with this colour for a couple of seasons now - which apparently is very unusual in the fashion world (not that I would know !!) and the % of rose gold IPhones sold by Apple.I appreciate that if AM want to sell these cars, they need to cater for all manner of customer's desires. I do think it's a shame however that they need to offer bling options, on what is essentially a road legal race car. Surely there must be 150 high rollers out there whose tastes are a bit more old school and don't expect a 'Gold Pack' paint finish - or am I just out of touch? (probably!)
I always thought it was more desirable in some parts of the world than others - but apparently it's particularly popular with the millenials, so we may well find that the younger the buyer the more likely they are to have a spec that is less 'old school'.
SO, if you are out of touch - rest assured you are not alone
coppice said:
Another pointless contender for Le Grand Prix du Kensington Sud. All that effort , all that engineering brilliance - all for such toys to be locked away as investments by Chinese billionaires or ragged silly at speeds of up to ..gosh..50 mph outside Harrods by some over indulged Gulf State brat in another failed attempt to attract girls .
Jeez, what a jealous, spiteful, sad little post.cidered77 said:
Nerdherder said:
Had no idea Sports 2000 was that fast! Sounds like tremendous fun.
Damn right! even 'lil ol me was doing 47 seconds around Brands Indy! over a second quicker than BTCC there...Lap record for Silverstone National is ~1 second than Matt Jackson managed with the "Holy Trinity". Anglesey GP record is 1:26 something; Senna is 1:31, etc , etc...
Never mind this hypercar nonsense - come racing everybody
coppice said:
Another pointless contender for Le Grand Prix du Kensington Sud. All that effort , all that engineering brilliance - all for such toys to be locked away as investments by Chinese billionaires or ragged silly at speeds of up to ..gosh..50 mph outside Harrods by some over indulged Gulf State brat in another failed attempt to attract girls .
I know 2 people getting them, both entirely self made Brits. I can virtually guarantee both will be used as intended on both road and track and rarely if ever venture inside of the M25. cidered77 said:
Damn right! even 'lil ol me was doing 47 seconds around Brands Indy! over a second quicker than BTCC there...
Lap record for Silverstone National is ~1 second than Matt Jackson managed with the "Holy Trinity". Anglesey GP record is 1:26 something; Senna is 1:31, etc , etc...
Never mind this hypercar nonsense - come racing everybody
surely a Caparo T1 would be faster?Lap record for Silverstone National is ~1 second than Matt Jackson managed with the "Holy Trinity". Anglesey GP record is 1:26 something; Senna is 1:31, etc , etc...
Never mind this hypercar nonsense - come racing everybody
E65Ross said:
coppice said:
Another pointless contender for Le Grand Prix du Kensington Sud. All that effort , all that engineering brilliance - all for such toys to be locked away as investments by Chinese billionaires or ragged silly at speeds of up to ..gosh..50 mph outside Harrods by some over indulged Gulf State brat in another failed attempt to attract girls .
Jeez, what a jealous, spiteful, sad little post.cidered77 said:
Nerdherder said:
Had no idea Sports 2000 was that fast! Sounds like tremendous fun.
Damn right! even 'lil ol me was doing 47 seconds around Brands Indy! over a second quicker than BTCC there...Lap record for Silverstone National is ~1 second than Matt Jackson managed with the "Holy Trinity". Anglesey GP record is 1:26 something; Senna is 1:31, etc , etc...
Never mind this hypercar nonsense - come racing everybody
This road legal Aston though - will apparently not only be better than cheap racecar fast, it'll be LMP1 fast. Which is a different stratosphere in performance. A very sensible and relevant set of comparative data i'd say....
WCZ said:
cidered77 said:
Damn right! even 'lil ol me was doing 47 seconds around Brands Indy! over a second quicker than BTCC there...
Lap record for Silverstone National is ~1 second than Matt Jackson managed with the "Holy Trinity". Anglesey GP record is 1:26 something; Senna is 1:31, etc , etc...
Never mind this hypercar nonsense - come racing everybody
surely a Caparo T1 would be faster?Lap record for Silverstone National is ~1 second than Matt Jackson managed with the "Holy Trinity". Anglesey GP record is 1:26 something; Senna is 1:31, etc , etc...
Never mind this hypercar nonsense - come racing everybody
It was no where near the sort of claims for the Valkyrie though from memory - it was just light and powerful with some modest aero, it didn't have the same extent of newey designed ground effect as this
E65Ross said:
The Green Triangle said:
Save a gram here and there.... Then the fat bastid gets in it. What's the point??
Because a 1000kg car with a 100kg driver will weigh less than a 1300kg car with a 100kg driver?
The other argument is, if you have the spare cash, why not? I could certainly increase my Lotus' power-to-weight ratio by cutting down on the biscuits.
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