RE: Audi RS4 (B7) vs. Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34)

RE: Audi RS4 (B7) vs. Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34)

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anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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That livery doesn't look right on anything other than an R32 in my opinion!

MDMA .

8,893 posts

101 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Look like ceramics on the Audi. Quite an expensive upgrade. Probably lightly modified in other areas too.

ashabraja2

2 posts

62 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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R34 would be my choice but insanely overhyped and overpriced. Shame I most likely won't be able to get a hold of one; that is, before those snobby Americans get their hands on them

EarlOfHazard

3,603 posts

158 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Maybe a 996 turbo vs R34 GTR comparison would be better. After all, it was the 911 that prompted Nissan to create the R32 GTR, with the aim to 'out Porsche, Porsche' 996s can certainly be had a good but cheaper these days than a GTR !
Have driven a mildy tuned R34 GTR(and R33) and been a passenger in a 996 turbo. Both mighty quick!!
Oh and for what it's worth: I myself prefer the B5 RS4 to the B7. Cosworth tuned, baby!

gtrstill

66 posts

144 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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I own an R34 and drove an RS4 like this. Such different cars 🤔. I always liked the RS4 but the manual one I drove had an awful clutch and gearbox feel. Almost too light and all or nothing. The getrag on the 34 is one of the most satisfying gearchanges I have experienced.

Also not much is mentioned on torque, you really have to spin up the RB to get it going.

Don Roque

17,996 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Two great cars but the R34 is the one that I want.

cbrown7

118 posts

249 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Nice piece, entertaining read. I've had my B7 RS4 Avant for 2 years now, I've also had my fair share of Japanese 4x4 turbo cars, although sadly not a GTR of any guise. All I know is it will take a lot to get me out of the RS4.

RSgeoff

258 posts

230 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Just put a deposit on an RS4 yesterday - can't wait to pick it up. These are surely at the bottom of the depreciation curve now and the only way is up? Mine is £20k and has had all the usual issues sorted, has new tyres & brakes all round and getting a comprehensive 12 month warranty with it.
I've always wanted one but addiction to Mitsubishi Evo's has kept me off them, but alas no longer.

Scoobysaurus

172 posts

97 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Snow, what's it good for.. 4WD but the only snow I can see in these photos is on the verges and in the fields, not quite what I expected from the headline that drew me into looking at this rolleyes

PZR

627 posts

185 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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hucumber said:
That livery doesn't look right on anything other than an R32 in my opinion!
Or a Gr.A R31 GTS-R.

JTCC P10 Primera wore it well too...

Murph7355

37,703 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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ads_green said:
I had a B7 for 4 years and it was brilliant... the longest I've ever had a car.

Some relatively slight tweaks and you can unlock another few hundred rpm and a lot more noise.
As a car that had to do everything including carting about a family of six then it was faultless.
You must all work for Willy Wonka if you could get a family of 6 in a B7 RS4!

Murph7355

37,703 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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RSgeoff said:
Just put a deposit on an RS4 yesterday - can't wait to pick it up. These are surely at the bottom of the depreciation curve now and the only way is up? Mine is £20k and has had all the usual issues sorted, has new tyres & brakes all round and getting a comprehensive 12 month warranty with it.
I've always wanted one but addiction to Mitsubishi Evo's has kept me off them, but alas no longer.
They're at a crossroads now IMO.

Low miles cars are advertised at a premium, but I'm always suspicious of low miles cars and how well they'll run. The youngest B7s are now 12yrs old. Anything with less than 60k miles on it (and a mass of bills) would make me wary.

Discs will need replacing every other set of pads. And the jury's out on whether the DRC can ever be fully "sorted". And an RS4 without DRC isn't an RS4 IMO.

Cars are advertised at 13k-32k...there are a lot of ratty cars out there and I suspect that ratio will get much bigger over the next few years. These are not cheap cars to run.

I've always liked Japanese cars but never been compelled enough to buy one.


George Smiley

5,048 posts

81 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Which one of Matt's friends has a B7 for sale? scratchchin

Strider

165 posts

231 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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The B7 feels like it has been sprinkled with magic dust. The ride is so supple yet controlled and communicative, the steering has the quality of feedback you just don't find any more, the torque is there when you need it, rising as you press the throttle with no delay. Quite brilliant. But the result is that prices for really good ones are close to newer, low mileage B8s. I had £30k available for a good one, lowish mileage, not black and no wingbacks (as I have to carry elderly relatives). In six months only two popped up and both sold before I could get over to see them. Now there is a B8 on the drive. Much newer, much more modern, but not that much more expensive and as a driver's car, much less enjoyable.

Anthony Wright

5 posts

99 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Had my B7 for nearly 3 years, used daily, does the family thing with ease and yet full of character especially when you push on.

Granted there are more "dynamic" cars out there in terms of front end grip but as an overall package I'm not sure what I'd rather have on the drive.

Haven't had any reliability issues, the cars is still only on about 34000 miles - maybe I'll have some big bills down the line but for now it's been a great car.

neilferg

30 posts

67 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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When I was younger both these cars were dream cars at the time . I think the Audi has aged well and is still one of the best looking rs models Audi has done . Skyline is a bit more dated and due to needing something with space for the family I bought a b7 rs4 18 months ago. Has now done 125k miles (done 10k since I bought it). Had a load of history and bills with all usual stuff replaced. In my ownership I've had to replace front discs and pads (£550 as opposed to £1200 audi quoted) and a hard pipe for drc split ,so replaced with Koni dampers (£700 fitted against over 1k from audi to replace one pipe) which retained oe ride height and has actually improved the handling in comparison to the drc. Regardless of mileage I believe they're all getting to an age where these jobs will need done . Spending 30k on one doesn't guarantee no big bills. Plenty of specialists and aftermarket suppliers to help maintain these cars properly rather than the horrendous main dealer prices. Could probably still get back what I paid for it in comparison to buying a new , average hatchback which was the other choice .

Niffty951

2,333 posts

228 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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As an Audi driver, who cut his teeth on mk2 golf gtis and whos petrol head blood runs pure German with a passionate hatrid for anything Japanese... I'd take the Skyline.

It just has so much more character than I'd ever have expected before I'd been in one. The sound, oh god the sound but also the way it handles, the playfulness, the raw feeling of speed and the connection to the driving experience. It is everything I didn't expect of a heavy 4wd turbo.

Edited by Niffty951 on Saturday 7th January 23:34

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Love the looks, sound and build quality of the B7 RS4. I don't like that you have to wring it's neck for it to feel fast.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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blade7 said:
Love the looks, sound and build quality of the B7 RS4. I don't like that you have to wring it's neck for it to feel fast.
Whatca workd we live in - 4.2 V8 petrol and for it to feel fast you need to use most of its 8,250rpm..... of course it’s fast everywhere in any rational sense of the word fast. Instead it’s turbo diesel delivery that can catch out E92 M3/RS4’ (but not the RS6 no chance)

big_rob_sydney

3,401 posts

194 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Welshbeef said:
blade7 said:
Love the looks, sound and build quality of the B7 RS4. I don't like that you have to wring it's neck for it to feel fast.
Whatca workd we live in - 4.2 V8 petrol and for it to feel fast you need to use most of its 8,250rpm..... of course it’s fast everywhere in any rational sense of the word fast. Instead it’s turbo diesel delivery that can catch out E92 M3/RS4’ (but not the RS6 no chance)
The Audi is a heavy car.

Turbo's are torque monsters.