RE: Audi RS4 (B7) vs. Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34)
Discussion
Maybe a 996 turbo vs R34 GTR comparison would be better. After all, it was the 911 that prompted Nissan to create the R32 GTR, with the aim to 'out Porsche, Porsche' 996s can certainly be had a good but cheaper these days than a GTR !
Have driven a mildy tuned R34 GTR(and R33) and been a passenger in a 996 turbo. Both mighty quick!!
Oh and for what it's worth: I myself prefer the B5 RS4 to the B7. Cosworth tuned, baby!
Have driven a mildy tuned R34 GTR(and R33) and been a passenger in a 996 turbo. Both mighty quick!!
Oh and for what it's worth: I myself prefer the B5 RS4 to the B7. Cosworth tuned, baby!
I own an R34 and drove an RS4 like this. Such different cars 🤔. I always liked the RS4 but the manual one I drove had an awful clutch and gearbox feel. Almost too light and all or nothing. The getrag on the 34 is one of the most satisfying gearchanges I have experienced.
Also not much is mentioned on torque, you really have to spin up the RB to get it going.
Also not much is mentioned on torque, you really have to spin up the RB to get it going.
Just put a deposit on an RS4 yesterday - can't wait to pick it up. These are surely at the bottom of the depreciation curve now and the only way is up? Mine is £20k and has had all the usual issues sorted, has new tyres & brakes all round and getting a comprehensive 12 month warranty with it.
I've always wanted one but addiction to Mitsubishi Evo's has kept me off them, but alas no longer.
I've always wanted one but addiction to Mitsubishi Evo's has kept me off them, but alas no longer.
ads_green said:
I had a B7 for 4 years and it was brilliant... the longest I've ever had a car.
Some relatively slight tweaks and you can unlock another few hundred rpm and a lot more noise.
As a car that had to do everything including carting about a family of six then it was faultless.
You must all work for Willy Wonka if you could get a family of 6 in a B7 RS4!Some relatively slight tweaks and you can unlock another few hundred rpm and a lot more noise.
As a car that had to do everything including carting about a family of six then it was faultless.
RSgeoff said:
Just put a deposit on an RS4 yesterday - can't wait to pick it up. These are surely at the bottom of the depreciation curve now and the only way is up? Mine is £20k and has had all the usual issues sorted, has new tyres & brakes all round and getting a comprehensive 12 month warranty with it.
I've always wanted one but addiction to Mitsubishi Evo's has kept me off them, but alas no longer.
They're at a crossroads now IMO.I've always wanted one but addiction to Mitsubishi Evo's has kept me off them, but alas no longer.
Low miles cars are advertised at a premium, but I'm always suspicious of low miles cars and how well they'll run. The youngest B7s are now 12yrs old. Anything with less than 60k miles on it (and a mass of bills) would make me wary.
Discs will need replacing every other set of pads. And the jury's out on whether the DRC can ever be fully "sorted". And an RS4 without DRC isn't an RS4 IMO.
Cars are advertised at 13k-32k...there are a lot of ratty cars out there and I suspect that ratio will get much bigger over the next few years. These are not cheap cars to run.
I've always liked Japanese cars but never been compelled enough to buy one.
The B7 feels like it has been sprinkled with magic dust. The ride is so supple yet controlled and communicative, the steering has the quality of feedback you just don't find any more, the torque is there when you need it, rising as you press the throttle with no delay. Quite brilliant. But the result is that prices for really good ones are close to newer, low mileage B8s. I had £30k available for a good one, lowish mileage, not black and no wingbacks (as I have to carry elderly relatives). In six months only two popped up and both sold before I could get over to see them. Now there is a B8 on the drive. Much newer, much more modern, but not that much more expensive and as a driver's car, much less enjoyable.
Had my B7 for nearly 3 years, used daily, does the family thing with ease and yet full of character especially when you push on.
Granted there are more "dynamic" cars out there in terms of front end grip but as an overall package I'm not sure what I'd rather have on the drive.
Haven't had any reliability issues, the cars is still only on about 34000 miles - maybe I'll have some big bills down the line but for now it's been a great car.
Granted there are more "dynamic" cars out there in terms of front end grip but as an overall package I'm not sure what I'd rather have on the drive.
Haven't had any reliability issues, the cars is still only on about 34000 miles - maybe I'll have some big bills down the line but for now it's been a great car.
When I was younger both these cars were dream cars at the time . I think the Audi has aged well and is still one of the best looking rs models Audi has done . Skyline is a bit more dated and due to needing something with space for the family I bought a b7 rs4 18 months ago. Has now done 125k miles (done 10k since I bought it). Had a load of history and bills with all usual stuff replaced. In my ownership I've had to replace front discs and pads (£550 as opposed to £1200 audi quoted) and a hard pipe for drc split ,so replaced with Koni dampers (£700 fitted against over 1k from audi to replace one pipe) which retained oe ride height and has actually improved the handling in comparison to the drc. Regardless of mileage I believe they're all getting to an age where these jobs will need done . Spending 30k on one doesn't guarantee no big bills. Plenty of specialists and aftermarket suppliers to help maintain these cars properly rather than the horrendous main dealer prices. Could probably still get back what I paid for it in comparison to buying a new , average hatchback which was the other choice .
As an Audi driver, who cut his teeth on mk2 golf gtis and whos petrol head blood runs pure German with a passionate hatrid for anything Japanese... I'd take the Skyline.
It just has so much more character than I'd ever have expected before I'd been in one. The sound, oh god the sound but also the way it handles, the playfulness, the raw feeling of speed and the connection to the driving experience. It is everything I didn't expect of a heavy 4wd turbo.
It just has so much more character than I'd ever have expected before I'd been in one. The sound, oh god the sound but also the way it handles, the playfulness, the raw feeling of speed and the connection to the driving experience. It is everything I didn't expect of a heavy 4wd turbo.
Edited by Niffty951 on Saturday 7th January 23:34
blade7 said:
Love the looks, sound and build quality of the B7 RS4. I don't like that you have to wring it's neck for it to feel fast.
Whatca workd we live in - 4.2 V8 petrol and for it to feel fast you need to use most of its 8,250rpm..... of course it’s fast everywhere in any rational sense of the word fast. Instead it’s turbo diesel delivery that can catch out E92 M3/RS4’ (but not the RS6 no chance)Welshbeef said:
blade7 said:
Love the looks, sound and build quality of the B7 RS4. I don't like that you have to wring it's neck for it to feel fast.
Whatca workd we live in - 4.2 V8 petrol and for it to feel fast you need to use most of its 8,250rpm..... of course it’s fast everywhere in any rational sense of the word fast. Instead it’s turbo diesel delivery that can catch out E92 M3/RS4’ (but not the RS6 no chance)Turbo's are torque monsters.
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