The Joy of Running an Old Shed

The Joy of Running an Old Shed

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Mr.Nobody

842 posts

48 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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bearman68 said:
Nope. 40 odd frenchies here and all OK. I usually manage 20 years worth of shed motoring every year or so, on account of having so many. (Normally about 500k miles a year). French stuff is more profitable for me than anything. - Cheap to buy, and tough and reliable in service.

VAG stuff is more profitable to fix for other people. Needy, complex, unreliable, and suffer from a huge number of non specific faults, on the grounds they can't make electrics, and often can't build mechanicals properly either. Audi (allegedly) long ago stopped soldering it's electrical joints, instead relying on, literally, square pins in round holes. Which is fine and cheap, right up until they get old and corrode.
Great to hear. The same dealer has a 2013 Peugeot 508 SW Active spec for £2500. I don’t know much about the car other than that. Would that be a good enough car? Is there anything to look out for on those? As I’ve never owned a French Car, only German and Japanese.

ooid

4,074 posts

100 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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so what do you gents think about Volvo xc70 D5 auto?

ears


captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

34 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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ooid said:
so what do you gents think about Volvo xc70 D5 auto?

ears
Nothing quite like an old Volvo, though the ones from the 2000s have aged well.

What age, mileage, price etc are you considering?

bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Mr.Nobody said:
Great to hear. The same dealer has a 2013 Peugeot 508 SW Active spec for £2500. I don’t know much about the car other than that. Would that be a good enough car? Is there anything to look out for on those? As I’ve never owned a French Car, only German and Japanese.
I don't much like the 508. I find it a bit ugly. (And it's not very flattering to me either). but any of the diesel engine options later than 2010 are pretty tough, and electrically OK. They will have some idiosyncrasies, but nothing more than anything else. The DPF cleaner bag is a few hundred to change when it needs it (generally about 100 - 150k miles, and of course they have a cam belt that needs changing between 120 and 150 depending on usage. But I'd prefer one of these to the Skoda personally.

The spinner of plates

17,681 posts

200 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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ooid said:
so what do you gents think about Volvo xc70 D5 auto?

ears
No shed insight.. but I remember when I borrowed one it had the turning circle of an oil tanker which made parking a bit of a faff at times.

ooid

4,074 posts

100 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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captain.scarlet said:
Nothing quite like an old Volvo, though the ones from the 2000s have aged well.

What age, mileage, price etc are you considering?
cheers, I was thinking something after 2005? and ideally 2.5-3.0k seems like shed prices nowadays due to inflation.

Mr.Nobody

842 posts

48 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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bearman68 said:
I don't much like the 508. I find it a bit ugly. (And it's not very flattering to me either). but any of the diesel engine options later than 2010 are pretty tough, and electrically OK. They will have some idiosyncrasies, but nothing more than anything else. The DPF cleaner bag is a few hundred to change when it needs it (generally about 100 - 150k miles, and of course they have a cam belt that needs changing between 120 and 150 depending on usage. But I'd prefer one of these to the Skoda personally.
I will see what information and images the dealer comes back with. It sounds a little cheap.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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ooid said:
so what do you gents think about Volvo xc70 D5 auto?

ears
That'll be the Geartronic auto... they can be troublesome, though the two I had were great - one being a V70 on 235,000 miles - also you MUST ensure the auxiliary belt tensioner has been changed at the same time as the timing belt, these can fail, throw the belt into the timing belt and it's goodbye engine.

Mr.Nobody

842 posts

48 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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bearman68 said:
Hard to know if the con rod will appear before or after the electrics self destruct. Or fill with water. Or both.
Do any of your hirers ask if they can buy the car?

If so, what do you say?

cedrichn

812 posts

51 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Digby said:
My old Winter hack shed may be going today. The beautiful Suzuki X90!

She’s only covered 60k and is by far the best vehicle I have ever used in the snow. I stuck some mud and snow tyres on it and when everything else round my way was being abandoned during the last dumping we had, I was driving around almost no differently to driving on dry tarmac. Even the steepest most treacherous hills were dealt with with zero loss of traction, both up and down.

It unfortunately burst a pas pipe shortly after so it was dumped at our workshop waiting to be sorted, but since getting my Sedici shed and that too being great in the snow, I just didn’t bother.

In typical Japanese fashion, despite sitting for a few years outside, it started instantly with the first turn of the key and sounded no different to the day I turned it off.

A marmite car for sure, but I loved its quirkiness.







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It is beautiful in a weird way, like the Avantime smile

cedrichn

812 posts

51 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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R50 BPS said:
Mr.Nobody said:
Are you confusing that with French cars.
I've had more problems with VW Group stuff than anything French - same applies to anything that family members have owned - you ask for advice then throw that out there. Do what you want, but don't come crying to us when it chucks a rod... or the turbo fails.... or the EGR valve... or flywheel.... should I stop yet?

Edited by R50 BPS on Sunday 20th June 23:00
"Would you buy this ?"
"No"
"Why?"
"Because of....[technical explications]"
"But it might be good?"
"But it is risky"
"But some doesn't break..."

hehehehe

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Mr.Nobody said:
Regular oil changes with the correct spec oil are imperative with the 2.0 TDI 140s. The oil pump can fail if servicing is neglected, starving the engine of oil and pop it goes. I had a 2010 2.0 TDI 140 on 209,000 miles, beautiful car to drive, couldn't see or feel any signs of the mileage - and yes, the servicing was kept up to date all with a VW specialist. The car covered 140,000 of those miles in around 6 years.


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anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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cedrichn said:
R50 BPS said:
Mr.Nobody said:
Are you confusing that with French cars.
I've had more problems with VW Group stuff than anything French - same applies to anything that family members have owned - you ask for advice then throw that out there. Do what you want, but don't come crying to us when it chucks a rod... or the turbo fails.... or the EGR valve... or flywheel.... should I stop yet?

Edited by R50 BPS on Sunday 20th June 23:00
"Would you buy this ?"
"No"
"Why?"
"Because of....[technical explications]"
"But it might be good?"
"But it is risky"
"But some doesn't break..."

hehehehe
I know! Honestly sometimes people shouldn't bother asking and just do what they want - thats what most end up doing anyway after asking for advice!

Arnie Cunningham

3,762 posts

253 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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I bought my RS6 on the basis of "surely, not every single thing on the risk list fails".

How wrong I was. Every damn single thing on the list.
Now rebuilt with every thing done properly and better than OEM in most cases, so it's a goodun, but even so, in this case, lesson well learnt.

Mr.Nobody

842 posts

48 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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cedrichn said:
"Would you buy this ?"
"No"
"Why?"
"Because of....[technical explications]"
"But it might be good?"
"But it is risky"
"But some doesn't break..."

hehehehe
Anything for around £1500 is a gamble. But there is people on here with that same engine and it’s been fine. I’ve got a German car specialist looking over the car.

Mr.Nobody

842 posts

48 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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R50 BPS said:
I know! Honestly sometimes people shouldn't bother asking and just do what they want - thats what most end up doing anyway after asking for advice!
I’ve asked a German car specialist to have a look at the car. I could buy that VW and it could cost a fortune or be okay. It’s the gamble that you take with a cheap car. I bought a 06 Civic the spaceship model and had nothing but problems.

ooid

4,074 posts

100 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Arnie Cunningham said:
I bought my RS6 on the basis of "surely, not every single thing on the risk list fails".

How wrong I was. Every damn single thing on the list.
Now rebuilt with every thing done properly and better than OEM in most cases, so it's a goodun, but even so, in this case, lesson well learnt.
The amount of posts I read here about money-pit stories of RS6 and Porsche 996/987 could be a large book :Hehe:

Mr.Nobody

842 posts

48 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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The 508 is a 2.0 diesel with 103k. Passed every year with no advisors.

cedrichn

812 posts

51 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Mr.Nobody said:
R50 BPS said:
I know! Honestly sometimes people shouldn't bother asking and just do what they want - thats what most end up doing anyway after asking for advice!
I’ve asked a German car specialist to have a look at the car. I could buy that VW and it could cost a fortune or be okay. It’s the gamble that you take with a cheap car. I bought a 06 Civic the spaceship model and had nothing but problems.
It is second hand cars: you don't know what happened in their life before... Anything except a full dealership history every year, which is really not common (let me laugh at every "Full Service History" you can find which are not), can led to problems. Hence why it is better to stick to robust engines, which are usually more forgiving lack of maintenance.
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