The Joy of Running an Old Shed

[Arnie Cunningham]

I'd argue even full dealer service history is worthless, more so on sheds.
The actual stuff in a service book is fundamentally just oil & filter changes, cambelts, fuel filters, cabin filters and so forth.
All stuff you should do - but easy to do all that and still have a stter.

[cedrichn]

Mr.Nobody said:

The 508 is a 2.0 diesel with 103k. Passed every year with no advisors.

Much better drive, and refinement in my opinion: based on the C5 X7, which is a evolution of the Peugeot 407: nice cars to do journeys in.
Still, I would keep a decent amount of money aside to fix the diesel depollution system (robust if maintained properly, but can cost some money in case of low mileage/no good maintenance) just in case...

[Mr.Nobody]

cedrichn said:

Much better drive, and refinement in my opinion: based on the C5 X7, which is a evolution of the Peugeot 407: nice cars to do journeys in.
Still, I would keep a decent amount of money aside to fix the diesel depollution system (robust if maintained properly, but can cost some money in case of low mileage/no good maintenance) just in case...

Okay, what sort of cost would it be to fix that? Some information on it:


Information:

https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/FreeCheck?regno=Wf63eg...

1 former keeper
AC is not working and needs a Sat Nav CD.

Edited by Mr.Nobody on Monday 21st June 13:45

[Captain Answer]

Arnie Cunningham said:

I'd argue even full dealer service history is worthless, more so on sheds.
The actual stuff in a service book is fundamentally just oil & filter changes, cambelts, fuel filters, cabin filters and so forth.
All stuff you should do - but easy to do all that and still have a stter.

At a certain point it is def worthless, I buy a shed on it's condition and not its paperwork

You can easily obtain main dealer stamps on ebay, highly dodgy but prob not illegal

[bearman68]

R50 BPS said:

Mr.Nobody said:

Any thoughts on this:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106143...

Regular oil changes with the correct spec oil are imperative with the 2.0 TDI 140s. The oil pump can fail if servicing is neglected, starving the engine of oil and pop it goes. I had a 2010 2.0 TDI 140 on 209,000 miles, beautiful car to drive, couldn't see or feel any signs of the mileage - and yes, the servicing was kept up to date all with a VW specialist. The car covered 140,000 of those miles in around 6 years.

Edited by R50 BPS on Monday 21st June 10:59

Nah, the oil pump drives fail despite maintenance. Bloody useless things. Any manufacturer that plays fast and loose with the oil pump should be shot (VAG, and Nissan, and Vauxhall, I'm looking at you here). Just one of the basics you have to get right. How many Honda or Toyota oil pumps fail <scratches chin> about none.

[anonymous-user]

bearman68 said:

R50 BPS said:

Mr.Nobody said:

Any thoughts on this:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106143...

Regular oil changes with the correct spec oil are imperative with the 2.0 TDI 140s. The oil pump can fail if servicing is neglected, starving the engine of oil and pop it goes. I had a 2010 2.0 TDI 140 on 209,000 miles, beautiful car to drive, couldn't see or feel any signs of the mileage - and yes, the servicing was kept up to date all with a VW specialist. The car covered 140,000 of those miles in around 6 years.

Edited by R50 BPS on Monday 21st June 10:59

Nah, the oil pump drives fail despite maintenance. Bloody useless things. Any manufacturer that plays fast and loose with the oil pump should be shot (VAG, and Nissan, and Vauxhall, I'm looking at you here). Just one of the basics you have to get right. How many Honda or Toyota oil pumps fail <scratches chin> about none.

I did thing maintenance may have been irrelevant, just going off what a mechanic (who I no longer use funnily enough) once said. The Vauxhall 2.0 CDTI lump seems even worse for them failing - used to chat to the car parking attendant who ran one all over the county racking up around 20k a year, which isn't too excessive, however he still had two engines fail which were replaced under warranty - around 18 months apart - and reckoned the one in the car at the time was also on it's way. Maintained religiously too, changing the oil every 5,000 miles as he was told that would prevent it going again. Back to the age old diesel vs. petrol debate - I think diesels peaked in the late 90s/early 00s.

Edited by R50 BPS on Monday 21st June 17:30

[anonymous-user]

Captain Answer said:

You can easily obtain main dealer stamps on ebay, highly dodgy but prob not illegal

THIS - I had a local dodgy dealer come in to work (Staples/Office Outlet) to have stamps made with a dealers' address up in Scotland, told him to do one, he got the manager involved who also told him to do one. A quiet word may or may not have been said in the direction of Trading Standards, resulting in their business mysteriously vanishing off the face of the earth - do still see them advertising cars under different names and eBay/Gumtree accounts often, which frustrates me.

[spreadsheet monkey]

bearman68 said:

R50 BPS said:

Mr.Nobody said:

Any thoughts on this:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106143...

Regular oil changes with the correct spec oil are imperative with the 2.0 TDI 140s. The oil pump can fail if servicing is neglected, starving the engine of oil and pop it goes. I had a 2010 2.0 TDI 140 on 209,000 miles, beautiful car to drive, couldn't see or feel any signs of the mileage - and yes, the servicing was kept up to date all with a VW specialist. The car covered 140,000 of those miles in around 6 years.

Nah, the oil pump drives fail despite maintenance. Bloody useless things. Any manufacturer that plays fast and loose with the oil pump should be shot (VAG, and Nissan, and Vauxhall, I'm looking at you here). Just one of the basics you have to get right. How many Honda or Toyota oil pumps fail <scratches chin> about none.

Breaks a lot of shed buying golden rules...

VAG
Diesel
Advertised as "TRADE CLEARANCE PART EXCHANGE BARGAIN TODAY"

[anonymous-user]

Over the last 3 months I've had a lot of reasons to love running a shed. Full service £35, clutch £40 now it needs a new brake servo, whistling better than Bryan Ferry on Jealous Guy. Mr eurocarparts wants £170, I think not, jot down part number, a quick ebay search £25 from a car dismantler. Will take an hour to fit on Saturday and off we go again. I shudder to think what these jobs would have cost at a garage on a newer car but I'm guessing well into 4 figures. Add to that an MOT in March with no advisories.

[anonymous-user]

Lord Cunnington Smythe said:

Over the last 3 months I've had a lot of reasons to love running a shed. Full service £35, clutch £40 now it needs a new brake servo, whistling better than Bryan Ferry on Jealous Guy. Mr eurocarparts wants £170, I think not, jot down part number, a quick ebay search £25 from a car dismantler. Will take an hour to fit on Saturday and off we go again. I shudder to think what these jobs would have cost at a garage on a newer car but I'm guessing well into 4 figures. Add to that an MOT in March with no advisories.

The whistling brake servo has me wondering if thats the intermittent issue with my Yaris - also seems to vibrate the pedal when braking whilst reversing at slow speeds.

[MrGTI6]

R50 BPS said:

Lord Cunnington Smythe said:

Over the last 3 months I've had a lot of reasons to love running a shed. Full service £35, clutch £40 now it needs a new brake servo, whistling better than Bryan Ferry on Jealous Guy. Mr eurocarparts wants £170, I think not, jot down part number, a quick ebay search £25 from a car dismantler. Will take an hour to fit on Saturday and off we go again. I shudder to think what these jobs would have cost at a garage on a newer car but I'm guessing well into 4 figures. Add to that an MOT in March with no advisories.

The whistling brake servo has me wondering if thats the intermittent issue with my Yaris - also seems to vibrate the pedal when braking whilst reversing at slow speeds.

Does it feel like the ABS kicking in? If so, could be a cracked ABS reluctor ring. Common on the Yaris. Doesn't tend to throw up the ABS light but can confuse the speed sensor and result in the brake pedal pulsing under light braking.

[anonymous-user]

MrGTI6 said:

R50 BPS said:

Lord Cunnington Smythe said:

Over the last 3 months I've had a lot of reasons to love running a shed. Full service £35, clutch £40 now it needs a new brake servo, whistling better than Bryan Ferry on Jealous Guy. Mr eurocarparts wants £170, I think not, jot down part number, a quick ebay search £25 from a car dismantler. Will take an hour to fit on Saturday and off we go again. I shudder to think what these jobs would have cost at a garage on a newer car but I'm guessing well into 4 figures. Add to that an MOT in March with no advisories.

The whistling brake servo has me wondering if thats the intermittent issue with my Yaris - also seems to vibrate the pedal when braking whilst reversing at slow speeds.

Does it feel like the ABS kicking in? If so, could be a cracked ABS reluctor ring. Common on the Yaris. Doesn't tend to throw up the ABS light but can confuse the speed sensor and result in the brake pedal pulsing under light braking.

Thats exactly it! I assume safe to drive as it is, or would you say I should replace it? Have tested heavy braking etc and all seems well.

[MrGTI6]

R50 BPS said:

MrGTI6 said:

R50 BPS said:

Lord Cunnington Smythe said:

Over the last 3 months I've had a lot of reasons to love running a shed. Full service £35, clutch £40 now it needs a new brake servo, whistling better than Bryan Ferry on Jealous Guy. Mr eurocarparts wants £170, I think not, jot down part number, a quick ebay search £25 from a car dismantler. Will take an hour to fit on Saturday and off we go again. I shudder to think what these jobs would have cost at a garage on a newer car but I'm guessing well into 4 figures. Add to that an MOT in March with no advisories.

The whistling brake servo has me wondering if thats the intermittent issue with my Yaris - also seems to vibrate the pedal when braking whilst reversing at slow speeds.

Does it feel like the ABS kicking in? If so, could be a cracked ABS reluctor ring. Common on the Yaris. Doesn't tend to throw up the ABS light but can confuse the speed sensor and result in the brake pedal pulsing under light braking.

Thats exactly it! I assume safe to drive as it is, or would you say I should replace it? Have tested heavy braking etc and all seems well.

Should be safe to drive but it's a cheap and easy job to do. I replaced the one on my Rover not long ago. The new reluctor ring was £2.99 delivered from eBay. Wouldn't be surprised if you could get one even cheaper for a Yaris.

Probably worth checking that one of the rings is cracked first, but from what you describe it sounds very likely.

[Mr.Nobody]

Interesting:

https://youtu.be/Wk-isKUjWBQ

[Arnie Cunningham]

ooid said:

The amount of posts I read here about money-pit stories of RS6 and Porsche 996/987 could be a large book :Hehe:

VW got a few things wrong (there’s a theme there isn’t there). But now, it’s a great car and worth all the effort

[bearman68]

R50 BPS said:

The whistling brake servo has me wondering if thats the intermittent issue with my Yaris - also seems to vibrate the pedal when braking whilst reversing at slow speeds.

Very rusty reluctor rings - signal is slow low, it thinks the wheels are slipping, so brings the ABS on. They won't be cracked, just rusting quietly away. At higher speeds the magnetic inductance is higher, so will produce a recognisable signal

[redandwhite]

ooid said:

so what do you gents think about Volvo xc70 D5 auto?

I really like my phase 3 https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=18...

[anonymous-user]

Mr.Nobody said:

Interesting:

https://youtu.be/Wk-isKUjWBQ

Yeah thats the legendary tough as old boots 1.9 TDI PD with enough torque to tow a house and no dual mass flywheel to worry about - totally different to what you're looking at.

[anonymous-user]

bearman68 said:

R50 BPS said:

The whistling brake servo has me wondering if thats the intermittent issue with my Yaris - also seems to vibrate the pedal when braking whilst reversing at slow speeds.

Very rusty reluctor rings - signal is slow low, it thinks the wheels are slipping, so brings the ABS on. They won't be cracked, just rusting quietly away. At higher speeds the magnetic inductance is higher, so will produce a recognisable signal

If it gets any worse, I may either sell as spares/part ex it etc as one or both rear wheel bearings started singing their merry tune on the way home tonight

[ooid]

redandwhite said:

I really like my phase 3 https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=18...

Love it.. I'm mostly currently looking at models up to 2006 though, budget wise.