RE: VW Golf GTI TCR orders open
Discussion
Earthdweller said:
Adrian E said:
Lozw86 said:
Is there an option for leather seats on Golf GTI's / R's?
That cheque pattern is ghastly
Yes, we have leather - it's rare on the used market due to influence on PCP rates and the plethora of ex-lease stuff cluttering dealer forecourts for nearly new. There's a couple of different leather options in terms of cost IIRCThat cheque pattern is ghastly
Vocht said:
Deep Thought said:
Stu-nph26 said:
Vocht said:
Nice I was after a new one though I think that's pre-reg. kmpowell said:
People think nothing about spending £900 on the bigger 19" wheels but don't want to spend the same kind of money on DCC which improves the car in every situation. IMO DCC totally transforms the car's comfort and sporting abilities, it gives you a proper jekyll & hyde weapon.
This is spot on. I spent a few months looking at GTIs of various spec, and the DCC option is incredibly rare. About 70% of cars seem to have the 19" option wheel, but barely any have DCC.Baldchap said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Wouldn't want a used R or GTI after all the cheap leases in the last few years.
No cheap leases on 7.5s. I bought reasonably well at a good time admittedly, but I can live with a cost of something in the order of £250 a month for more than 15k miles a year.
Vocht said:
Considering you can now get a brand new R for £27,990 before any further haggling you'd have to be mad to pay list for one of these. Even a near new Clubsport S ( a proper special edition) with 1,400 on the clock is less than this TCR.
I bought a new Golf GTI over a new R, I must be mad. Horses for courses.Matrix2020 said:
wab172uk said:
I had a Mk7 GTI Performance on standard Passive suspension. It was perfectly fine and at no point did I wish to press a button and make it more bouncy. Or press a button and make it more crashy. The standard set-up is judged really well, and has a good balance between good ride quality and still remaining taut.
Problem with DCC, is that every setting is a compromise. Before DCC, manufacturers set up there cars to be the best between ride and handling. Now, what's the point, as a press of a button will change it all. Why? Because we live in an age where everything has to be configurable within an inch of it's life.
Why I want 7 settings for how fast the gearbox will swap cogs I'm not quite sure.
Why I want 4 different steering weights is beyond me
Why I want to decide if I want to bounce about or wince at a pot hole is way above my head.
Just make the car ride and handle well to start with. Simples
On the TCR. Just a shame no manual. But why make a car fun? Oh I forgot everyone works in the city where the box is more suited.
I think you miss the point of DCC, firstly IMO it is great, it is not a compromise in every mode it's quite the opposite. You can set it to the road conditions or your personal driving style for the journey, you don't have to live with the compromise of having it set for neither comfort or racing (i.e. standard set up on normal suspension) as the car is meant to be for all occasions.... DCC, with DSG and ACC working together really gives you a car for any condition or driving style you fancy. Problem with DCC, is that every setting is a compromise. Before DCC, manufacturers set up there cars to be the best between ride and handling. Now, what's the point, as a press of a button will change it all. Why? Because we live in an age where everything has to be configurable within an inch of it's life.
Why I want 7 settings for how fast the gearbox will swap cogs I'm not quite sure.
Why I want 4 different steering weights is beyond me
Why I want to decide if I want to bounce about or wince at a pot hole is way above my head.
Just make the car ride and handle well to start with. Simples
On the TCR. Just a shame no manual. But why make a car fun? Oh I forgot everyone works in the city where the box is more suited.
Now I have DCC and covered over 1000miles since the start of January, I can say I have no regrets, exactly what I had hoped for. Whilst I suspect most would spec DCC for it's sporty ability, I specced it for the "comfort" setting I can switch the dampers into. amongst the normal a/b-road basting, I mainly do two types of trips, short(ish) trips around London's pot-hole and speed bump laden roads, plus I also do 2x 400 mile round trip motorway journeys each month where i just need to cover long distances in the most comfortable way possible. Even when just switching between "normal" and "comfort" it is a drastically noticeable difference, the car becomes very comfortable and irons out every bump/lump in the road. DCC gives you a real swiss-army knife car.
It baffles me the amount of justification I read, usually prequalified with the "I have 19's and no DCC and I find the ride fine"... yet that doesn't actually address what DCC gives you, not having DCC may be fine, but with DCC it transforms the car and gives you so much more than 'fine'.
Charlie Michael said:
kmpowell said:
If you want a used one with DCC then from my experience unless you are VERY lucky you don't stand a cat in hells chance finding the car you 'want'... that is unless you are open to making a serious compromise on spec/colour. In my time searching I could count on one hand the number of DCC equipped GTI's that came up on the used car locator, but even when they did they were ex-demos or not close spec wise to what I wanted.
Found this one online - but very close to price of a new one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
After discount I paid less than that for my brand new one with a much bigger spec.
Earthdweller said:
Adrian E said:
Lozw86 said:
Is there an option for leather seats on Golf GTI's / R's?
That cheque pattern is ghastly
Yes, we have leather - it's rare on the used market due to influence on PCP rates and the plethora of ex-lease stuff cluttering dealer forecourts for nearly new. There's a couple of different leather options in terms of cost IIRCThat cheque pattern is ghastly
Adrian E said:
Always better to let the first owner take the hit! We paid circa £20k at a year old
I'll bite, maybe in 2015, but show me a year old well specced Golf GTI Performance for £20k? With WLTP delays and scarcity in teh marketplace, residuals for the GTI are pretty good.ghost83 said:
I personally don’t think the dcc is worth the money so plumped for a pan roof instead
"Instead"? Adaptive dampers is hardly comparable to a hole in the roof.Edited by kmpowell on Saturday 23 February 09:58
Baldchap said:
No cheap leases on 7.5s.
I got a MK 7.5 GTi for £220 pcm inc 15k miles pa, there were loads of cheap ones and MK7.5 golf R at the timeMind you depends what you call cheap
Avoid mine as it will have been gently driven for 30k
There could be plenty of well loved examples
on the market soon so be carefull !!myobnsa said:
I got a MK 7.5 GTi for £220 pcm inc 15k miles pa, there were loads of cheap ones and MK7.5 golf R at the time
Mind you depends what you call cheap
Avoid mine as it will have been gently driven for 30k
There could be plenty of well loved examples on the market soon so be carefull !!
Yup - he's talking through his hole.Mind you depends what you call cheap
Avoid mine as it will have been gently driven for 30k
There could be plenty of well loved examples
on the market soon so be carefull !!kmpowell said:
Leather is £1750 not £2500. I went for it because it's kid-proof plus it gives the cabin a bit of class over the usual check/tartan....
It may well be now, when I looked at a GTI about three years ago by the time you added the winter pack and heated seats it was well over £2k Edited by kmpowell on Saturday 23 February 09:58
Mental for a Golf .. BMW leather upgrade was £1100 .. but most high end 1/3 series had it as standard
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