mandatory speed limiters to be fitted from 2022?
Discussion
Welshbeef said:
https://www.evo.co.uk/news/22326/mandatory-speed-l...
So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
Have you actually read the article you linked?So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
liner33 said:
Welshbeef said:
https://www.evo.co.uk/news/22326/mandatory-speed-l...
So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
Have you actually read the article you linked?So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
I read Evo (have the subscription as it happens).
I almost always use the speed limiter in my car to allow me to keep within the speed limit without having to constantly regulate how much gas I’m giving the car with my right foot and having to keep looking at the speedometer. So I may not mind this being brought in if it helps avoid points and fine or worse.
However, the car also tells you what the speed limit is by scanning signs and I presume using GPS, and it has been known to get this wrong. So I wouldn’t wanna be limited to say 40mph just because the car had failed to detect that it’s in fact a 60mph zone.
The technology needs to be perfected before this is rolled out.
However, the car also tells you what the speed limit is by scanning signs and I presume using GPS, and it has been known to get this wrong. So I wouldn’t wanna be limited to say 40mph just because the car had failed to detect that it’s in fact a 60mph zone.
The technology needs to be perfected before this is rolled out.
Welshbeef said:
https://www.evo.co.uk/news/22326/mandatory-speed-l...
So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
Just read the article and of course came straight to ph to discuss. Complete disaster. Currently have an 2018 68 plate A8 that is loaded with what I can only assume is the precursor to a lot of this tech and it's awful. Needs to be huge improvements before it's remotely viable.So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
1. Semi-regularly emergency braking kicks in. I can actually induce it somewhat on certain sections of road I drive regularly where the road turns at the top of a crest so if someone is walking on the pavement where the turn is the car thinks you're going to crash into the pedestrian and slams the brakes. Had several people behind me need to take corrective action and also emergency brake to not slam into me resulting in honking etc and then the car won't speed up for a couple of seconds. Have had Audi turn the sensitivity down but can't be disabled and still does it
2. Car regularly tries to nudge me into cyclists when overtaking them as it tracks the street lines and tries to go back into the lane even though I indicated.
3. Car regularly reads the wrong speed limit signs, particularly in built up dual carriageway sections like the A3 closer to London where it's 50 but there are regularly signs for 30 at exit junctions. When auto speed limiter is on it has slowed down rapidly to 30 on these 50mph sections of road.
4. Regularly misses smaller speed limit signs out where I live so keeps me at 30 even when I've entered a 40. Not so much a safety hazard but annoying nonetheless.
5. More of an Audi complaint really but the car login with app got reset after a service and they had to factory reset the entire car which then meant I spent weeks disabling all the s
tty settings as much as possible again.Handing it back in October and can't wait for the Roma to arrive (which incidentally I've ordered without a single "smart" function).
Will try to get several cars without these awful functions before they are mandatory and can't be disabled to last as long as possible before I need to buy one of these travesties.
AudiMan9000 said:
I almost always use the speed limiter in my car to allow me to keep within the speed limit without having to constantly regulate how much gas I’m giving the car with my right foot and having to keep looking at the speedometer. So I may not mind this being brought in if it helps avoid points and fine or worse.
However, the car also tells you what the speed limit is by scanning signs and I presume using GPS, and it has been known to get this wrong. So I wouldn’t wanna be limited to say 40mph just because the car had failed to detect that it’s in fact a 60mph zone.
The technology needs to be perfected before this is rolled out.
My car told me it was a 90mph limit the other day.However, the car also tells you what the speed limit is by scanning signs and I presume using GPS, and it has been known to get this wrong. So I wouldn’t wanna be limited to say 40mph just because the car had failed to detect that it’s in fact a 60mph zone.
The technology needs to be perfected before this is rolled out.
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I wonder if they will have a "track option". Performance cars fitted with a track button which then displays a warning on the dash to say that this mode can only be used on track. This then delimits from 112mph.
The trouble is it can easily be GPS location limited rather than a manual option for the driver.
The trouble is it can easily be GPS location limited rather than a manual option for the driver.
Soleith said:
Welshbeef said:
https://www.evo.co.uk/news/22326/mandatory-speed-l...
So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
Just read the article and of course came straight to ph to discuss. Complete disaster. Currently have an 2018 68 plate A8 that is loaded with what I can only assume is the precursor to a lot of this tech and it's awful. Needs to be huge improvements before it's remotely viable.So regardless of what the road speed limits are you’ll not be able to buy a new car from 2022 without a 112mph speed limiter. Which means for performance cars you can only extract full performance in the first 3 gears (3rd illegally but meh plenty break the limits)
1. Semi-regularly emergency braking kicks in. I can actually induce it somewhat on certain sections of road I drive regularly where the road turns at the top of a crest so if someone is walking on the pavement where the turn is the car thinks you're going to crash into the pedestrian and slams the brakes. Had several people behind me need to take corrective action and also emergency brake to not slam into me resulting in honking etc and then the car won't speed up for a couple of seconds. Have had Audi turn the sensitivity down but can't be disabled and still does it
2. Car regularly tries to nudge me into cyclists when overtaking them as it tracks the street lines and tries to go back into the lane even though I indicated.
3. Car regularly reads the wrong speed limit signs, particularly in built up dual carriageway sections like the A3 closer to London where it's 50 but there are regularly signs for 30 at exit junctions. When auto speed limiter is on it has slowed down rapidly to 30 on these 50mph sections of road.
4. Regularly misses smaller speed limit signs out where I live so keeps me at 30 even when I've entered a 40. Not so much a safety hazard but annoying nonetheless.
5. More of an Audi complaint really but the car login with app got reset after a service and they had to factory reset the entire car which then meant I spent weeks disabling all the s
tty settings as much as possible again.Handing it back in October and can't wait for the Roma to arrive (which incidentally I've ordered without a single "smart" function).
Will try to get several cars without these awful functions before they are mandatory and can't be disabled to last as long as possible before I need to buy one of these travesties.
Not to mention hugely annoying for the driver with constant unnecessary interventions.
Soleith said:
1. Semi-regularly emergency braking kicks in. I can actually induce it somewhat on certain sections of road I drive regularly where the road turns at the top of a crest so if someone is walking on the pavement where the turn is the car thinks you're going to crash into the pedestrian and slams the brakes. Had several people behind me need to take corrective action and also emergency brake to not slam into me resulting in honking etc and then the car won't speed up for a couple of seconds. Have had Audi turn the sensitivity down but can't be disabled and still does it
travesties.
My C Class used to do this also from time to time. I decided to run the risk of disabling the system entirely, supposedly if you do crash and you've turned safety features off you can get in quite a lot of trouble.travesties.
irocfan said:
RSTurboPaul said:
A500leroy said:
RSTurboPaul said:
A500leroy said:
Dont see the issue, we are just returning to the 60s/70s when cars had a top speed of around 75 and even 'hot' stuff like the capri or the mgb would only just crack the ton.
Limiting stuff to 70 is just returning to the past and folks still had plenty of fun back in the golden age of the car. And lets be honest wouldnt it be better if you cant break a 30mph speed limit anyway,and think of how many licences it would save.
That presumes that the limits are set correctly and not on the whims of local politicians who want to be seen to be 'doing something' - even if all the evidence points to an 85th percentile of 40mph (or even higher) 30mph is installed 'because safer'.Limiting stuff to 70 is just returning to the past and folks still had plenty of fun back in the golden age of the car. And lets be honest wouldnt it be better if you cant break a 30mph speed limit anyway,and think of how many licences it would save.
Are you going to volunteer your licence?
It is saves one extra death surely it is worth it?
Just another blow to the enjoyment of motoring.........
ICE goes away-even today not much more development
Standard shift is almost gone and irrelevant in the EV era
Speed limiters will be integrated into the overall surveillance system
Limits will come down further as the Green movement continues to rise
Election in Germany may well elect the Greens..and they will limit the autobahns.
It certainly was fun when it lasted..lots of good memories on lots of cars..........
ICE goes away-even today not much more development
Standard shift is almost gone and irrelevant in the EV era
Speed limiters will be integrated into the overall surveillance system
Limits will come down further as the Green movement continues to rise
Election in Germany may well elect the Greens..and they will limit the autobahns.
It certainly was fun when it lasted..lots of good memories on lots of cars..........
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