The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XIX)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XIX)

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Cheburator mk2

2,991 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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braddo said:
Is this the masterpiece V8 you're talking about? biggrin
It is - the problem with most modern cars is the stupidly long service intervals.

Take our X5 - runs very hot for emissions reasons, it has a hot V8 with the turbos in the middle of the engine block, it has very active stop start and yet BMW specify 15 to 20k service intervals. The spark plugs are every 40k Miles! And lo and behold, suddenly the engine gets a reputation for eating turbos at 70k, camshafts at 100 and in general the whole block is scrap by about 120k. Theoretically you can have the car for 10yrs, do 100k in it and do Just 5 services?!!

The same applies to the N62 - runs hot on thin oil with 15 to 20k service intervals. Of course by 200k the bearings will be shot. Which is par for the course for the early Cayennes too. Or 996s or pretty much any car with a mildly performance orientated engine...

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/7375856?cI...

My mate's old car, comes up often and has been at this particular dealer's for an absolute age. In the flesh, the colour combo is absolutely stunning but it obviously puts a lot off!

I can't help thinking it will be a true classic one day in the future.

MattOz

3,911 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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I think that 360 colour combo is stunning. Would take it over red with cream any day.

Chris Stott

13,364 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2020
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Green 360 is fabulous... I know someone with a manual TDF over tan 360, with cf buckets. I’m not usually a Ferrari fan, but it’s stunning.

Output Flange

16,798 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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Yep, another vote for the green 360 here. Which obviously means we're all perverts.

OldSpeed

230 posts

180 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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BBR SUPER 180GT. Eibach suspension. Stormy blue mica paint. Garaged, 30k miles from new and in seemingly cracking order.

Sounds like a lot of fun to me.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202009214...

minimoog

6,892 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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That looks superb all round.

Patrick Bateman

12,179 posts

174 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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N62 isn't worth the hassle in my experience. For the sort of trouble you can get I'd only find it tolerable in an M car.

For run of the mill BMW's I'd sooner look at the N52 every day of the week.

Cheburator mk2

2,991 posts

199 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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Patrick Bateman said:
N62 isn't worth the hassle in my experience. For the sort of trouble you can get I'd only find it tolerable in an M car.

For run of the mill BMW's I'd sooner look at the N52 every day of the week.
Yes, but a 6-er is a big car and you will definitely feel the -ve 100bhp...

ATM

18,284 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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Cheburator mk2 said:
Patrick Bateman said:
N62 isn't worth the hassle in my experience. For the sort of trouble you can get I'd only find it tolerable in an M car.

For run of the mill BMW's I'd sooner look at the N52 every day of the week.
Yes, but a 6-er is a big car and you will definitely feel the -ve 100bhp...
Patrick Bateman

Remind us what problems you had with yours please.

Patrick Bateman

12,179 posts

174 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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ATM said:
Patrick Bateman

Remind us what problems you had with yours please.


No single disastrous bill but I can tell you, my God can I tell you, that floating from one £500 bill to another almost month to month in that time frame is genuinely horrific. Bear in mind this was the 'forum' car I had, it'd had thousands spent on upkeep before I bought it.

Even after all that there's still the potential (and likely at that) issue of valve stem oil seals to address. In cold weather there was more often than not a misfire at start-up due to a known issue with the valvetronic. Albeit ultimately a minor issue, you try selling a car like that on to someone who isn't one of the barge initiated.

Very good engine when it worked but the feeling for me was always 'what next?' and it's just not a healthy position to be in. I assume the x50i cars sorted some issues over the x45i ones but I just get the feeling that a high mileage N62 is just chunky bills waiting to happen.

I think the turning point for me must have been the day I collected it after getting the alternator bracket leak fixed. Drove to the supermarket from the garage and when I came back out there was a puddle of coolant under the car. It couldn't even muster half an hour without grief.

I wasn't alien to spending a lot on upkeep, an e39 M5 saw to that. But it's far easier to tolerate knowing what it is and it never actually let me down.

So yeah, for a 'run of the mill' BMW, keep the 100 horses and give me the 6 any day of the week.

Fast Bug

11,680 posts

161 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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I had a VW Beetle like that. Chucking money at it every 5 minutes gets boring very quickly laugh

Patrick Bateman

12,179 posts

174 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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My heart is still recovering.

Fast Bug

11,680 posts

161 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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I bought a 996, waaaaaaay cheaper to run than a fast beetle biggrin

Chris Stott

13,364 posts

197 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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If you never drive it wink

Fast Bug

11,680 posts

161 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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I'm going to Simply in it this weekend Chris. And I drove it last weekend*

The Beetle broke either by a) racing it or b) looking at it the wrong way....














  • well moved it out of the garage so I could clean it then parked it back in the garage laugh

Chris Stott

13,364 posts

197 months

Thursday 24th September 2020
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rofl

GiveItSomeWellie

3,007 posts

196 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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Never knew these existed. D2 Audi S8 with a manual gearbox, have never seen one in the UK so assume it was a LHD-only offering.



https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1248690

jeremyc

23,459 posts

284 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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GiveItSomeWellie said:
Never knew these existed. D2 Audi S8 with a manual gearbox, have never seen one in the UK so assume it was a LHD-only offering.



https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1248690
Nice. Definitely a manuel. hehe Always good to have a system failure message on the dash when you take pictures for the ad. smile



braddo

10,464 posts

188 months

Friday 25th September 2020
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A manual S8 - que?? hehe

It's asking to insert a CD-ROM, so might just be sat nav related?