RE: McLaren 720S Spider: Driven
Discussion
isaldiri said:
mikey k said:
Nope
Its no wider than a 650 or 675 and a lot narrower than an Aventador
Never had any issues with width clearance in 25k miles of driving mine.
The 720 definitely is a wider car than the already quite wide 650/675.Its no wider than a 650 or 675 and a lot narrower than an Aventador
Never had any issues with width clearance in 25k miles of driving mine.
720 is 1,930 mm
BMW 5 series is 1905 mm
35mm not enough to be a problem in the real world
Aventador is another 100 mm on top of the 720 and that is a lot more of a challenge, though I have mate who daily drives one no issue.
I guess my point is
mikey k said:
675 is 1,895 mm
720 is 1,930 mm
BMW 5 series is 1905 mm
35mm not enough to be a problem in the real world
Aventador is another 100 mm on top of the 720 and that is a lot more of a challenge, though I have mate who daily drives one no issue.
I guess my point is
I think you will find a 675 is slightly over 1900mm and you had earlier said the 720 is 'not wider'. And those are without mirror widths. As I assume you can't pass cars at speeed by retracting mirrors, the 720 is iirc over 2.15m wide vs the P11 cars that are under 2.10m with mirrors. 5cm I admit isn't a lot on the face of things but anything over 2m counts disproportionately in terms of the 'suck in your breath moment' when you are passing traffic on a b road.720 is 1,930 mm
BMW 5 series is 1905 mm
35mm not enough to be a problem in the real world
Aventador is another 100 mm on top of the 720 and that is a lot more of a challenge, though I have mate who daily drives one no issue.
I guess my point is
Robert-nszl1 said:
A really striking looking car, which on most objective measures is better than the Ferrari/ Lambo competition. I'm surprised they can't dial in a sexier exhaust note, recognising the limitations of turbo charging. Seems to be the element that would most easily engender a bit more passion/ drama into the package.
Certainly some ambitiously priced options, though I imagine most people can do without quite a lot of the carbon detailing. I look forward to the nearly new cars that will appear at sub £200k prices....
I’d guess they listen to the intended demographic who probably don’t want a ghastly racket. Personally I’d certainly appreciate a bit more refinement and a whole lot less “theatre” or whatever daft euphemism is currently in vogue, for the farting, rattling, boomy, throbbing, droning, rasping, bellowing, snorting cacophony that too many cars demonstrate. Certainly some ambitiously priced options, though I imagine most people can do without quite a lot of the carbon detailing. I look forward to the nearly new cars that will appear at sub £200k prices....
WCZ said:
£316,540 as tested - ouch!
with some cars changing hands in the 160's it might feel painful to lose £150k in 12 months!
The £168k car is a low spec launch car with high miles that is over 12 months old and sold for ~£215k newwith some cars changing hands in the 160's it might feel painful to lose £150k in 12 months!
Cheapest low mileage is now £175k, as a mate just bought the black one at JZM.
High spec unregistered stock coupes are ~£250k
As always, with ANY car, going mad on the options means a big hit at resale.
Most buyers wouldn't do that made, those that do fund the second owners enjoyment
I bought a new 650S built to my spec for £210k and sold it 2 years later with 19k miles on it to a dealer for £165k.
Very happy with that considering the mileage and enjoyment we got out of it.
They don't have to cost a fortune in depreciation (or service £900/yr for the last 3 years)
Fuel? that's a different matter!
isaldiri said:
mikey k said:
675 is 1,895 mm
720 is 1,930 mm
BMW 5 series is 1905 mm
35mm not enough to be a problem in the real world
Aventador is another 100 mm on top of the 720 and that is a lot more of a challenge, though I have mate who daily drives one no issue.
I guess my point is
I think you will find a 675 is slightly over 1900mm and you had earlier said the 720 is 'not wider'. And those are without mirror widths. As I assume you can't pass cars at speeed by retracting mirrors, the 720 is iirc over 2.15m wide vs the P11 cars that are under 2.10m with mirrors. 5cm I admit isn't a lot on the face of things but anything over 2m counts disproportionately in terms of the 'suck in your breath moment' when you are passing traffic on a b road.720 is 1,930 mm
BMW 5 series is 1905 mm
35mm not enough to be a problem in the real world
Aventador is another 100 mm on top of the 720 and that is a lot more of a challenge, though I have mate who daily drives one no issue.
I guess my point is
My original point, somewhat lost in the mm variations, was in 25k miles neither my 650 or 675 has caused a problem with its width. Both went in a standard garage and allowed both doors to be opened no issues.
I often park in "normal" parking spaces, no issue there.
In the real world, away from the tape measure, they are very usable.
In fact I know of several 720 owners who daily drive them because they are so usable.
daytona111r said:
Nice, i'd take it in dark green.
Slightly o/t, but how have car manufacturers managed to convince buyers they need to tick every available option and ramp up the price? This mentality seeps form supercars right down to german rep mobiles too.
No idea but it does happen a lot Slightly o/t, but how have car manufacturers managed to convince buyers they need to tick every available option and ramp up the price? This mentality seeps form supercars right down to german rep mobiles too.
My dealer was excellent when I speced my 650.
He pointed me at the musts for residuals.
Picked the "packs" that had those items in to keep the cost down.
Subtly moved me away from the costly options that take big hits (lots of CF!).
Hence the "relatively" low depreciation I posted above.
I really like the looks of this. I wasn't convinced about the black eye sockets look at first but it has grown on me, they do give the front an aggressive look and sets them apart from rival brands. The yellow/gold colour isn't my favourite, that blue does look very appealing though. I think I still prefer the looks of the Huracan Spyder that was in the news yesterday, though as a driving machine the 720S does seem a great bit of kit... Being in the position to choose which one to buy would be nice...
V8 FOU said:
You'll never get a "sexy" exhaust note with a flat plane crank. Plus the turbos......
Brilliant car - I'll have the blue one....
Er..... I would argue the 458, with a flat plane crank, has one of the great engine notes, so it is of course the turbos that emasculate these engines exhaust notes. But the 488 isn't so bad....Brilliant car - I'll have the blue one....
I'm not suggesting the exhaust note is the be all and end all of a car, but those that discount it as in some way childish strike me as cold fish. Pre turbo era F1 cars sounded epic, by way of further example. Are people really suggesting the sport hasn't lost out a little even though the performance of the current cars is on a par/ better? Noise matters!
Robert-nszl1 said:
V8 FOU said:
You'll never get a "sexy" exhaust note with a flat plane crank. Plus the turbos......
Brilliant car - I'll have the blue one....
Er..... I would argue the 458, with a flat plane crank, has one of the great engine notes, so it is of course the turbos that emasculate these engines exhaust notes. But the 488 isn't so bad....Brilliant car - I'll have the blue one....
I'm not suggesting the exhaust note is the be all and end all of a car, but those that discount it as in some way childish strike me as cold fish. Pre turbo era F1 cars sounded epic, by way of further example. Are people really suggesting the sport hasn't lost out a little even though the performance of the current cars is on a par/ better? Noise matters!
Gameface said:
Simonium said:
ghastly racket
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