RE: 720hp Ferrari F8 Tributo replaces 488 GTB
Discussion
E65Ross said:
AUD68 said:
Raygun said:
Do I detect a hint of jealousy at Ferrari owners on here? The are the best looking and most coveted brand in the world, that's why I bought myself one.
“The are the best looking and most coveted brand in the world, that's why I bought myself one.”Ha ha - nothing to do with the performance, handling etc? ! But because other people covet one!
There's every single possibility they're coveted because of their performance and handling, that HE coveted one, and hence he bought one. Your assumption is that he bought one because they're coveted by others is a bit daft.
seawise said:
Well we will have to disagree then. I was genuinely surprised when i bought my first Ferrari several years ago and happened to meet several other owners, who like me cared not one jot about perceived status. It’s at itch I wished to scratch as an enthusiast, since visiting motorshows in the 80’s i wanted to try a prancing horse, the motorsport heritage, the mystic of Ferrari. I really couldn’t give a stuff about the image/impression driving a Ferrari says to other people about me. That has nothing to do with why i might sink my hard earnt cash into one. The cars are wonderful to drive, and the ownership experience is second to none. I love and enjoy an eclectic range of cars, but Ferrari are very very special.
I bought my first Ferrari, a 458 Italia just before Xmas after decades of dreaming and pining for one..I've owned countless Porsches and currently have three including a 991.2GT3 and 981 Spyder..I love Porsches however they can't hold a candle to my 458 in terms of specialness..I'm always chopping in my Porsches for the latest one however with my 458 i feel i'll have it for many years..I never cruise along high streets in my cars as i hate attention but love driving them on empty country roads..Ferrari is and always be the top of the tree despite in some cases Porsches being objectively better cars. Ferraris are unbeatable for subjective charisma and character IMO.
Taffy66 said:
seawise said:
Well we will have to disagree then. I was genuinely surprised when i bought my first Ferrari several years ago and happened to meet several other owners, who like me cared not one jot about perceived status. It’s at itch I wished to scratch as an enthusiast, since visiting motorshows in the 80’s i wanted to try a prancing horse, the motorsport heritage, the mystic of Ferrari. I really couldn’t give a stuff about the image/impression driving a Ferrari says to other people about me. That has nothing to do with why i might sink my hard earnt cash into one. The cars are wonderful to drive, and the ownership experience is second to none. I love and enjoy an eclectic range of cars, but Ferrari are very very special.
I bought my first Ferrari, a 458 Italia just before Xmas after decades of dreaming and pining for one..I've owned countless Porsches and currently have three including a 991.2GT3 and 981 Spyder..I love Porsches however they can't hold a candle to my 458 in terms of specialness..I'm always chopping in my Porsches for the latest one however with my 458 i feel i'll have it for many years..I never cruise along high streets in my cars as i hate attention but love driving them on empty country roads..Ferrari is and always be the top of the tree despite in some cases Porsches being objectively better cars. Ferraris are unbeatable for subjective charisma and character IMO.
Burwood said:
Taffy66 said:
seawise said:
Well we will have to disagree then. I was genuinely surprised when i bought my first Ferrari several years ago and happened to meet several other owners, who like me cared not one jot about perceived status. It’s at itch I wished to scratch as an enthusiast, since visiting motorshows in the 80’s i wanted to try a prancing horse, the motorsport heritage, the mystic of Ferrari. I really couldn’t give a stuff about the image/impression driving a Ferrari says to other people about me. That has nothing to do with why i might sink my hard earnt cash into one. The cars are wonderful to drive, and the ownership experience is second to none. I love and enjoy an eclectic range of cars, but Ferrari are very very special.
I bought my first Ferrari, a 458 Italia just before Xmas after decades of dreaming and pining for one..I've owned countless Porsches and currently have three including a 991.2GT3 and 981 Spyder..I love Porsches however they can't hold a candle to my 458 in terms of specialness..I'm always chopping in my Porsches for the latest one however with my 458 i feel i'll have it for many years..I never cruise along high streets in my cars as i hate attention but love driving them on empty country roads..Ferrari is and always be the top of the tree despite in some cases Porsches being objectively better cars. Ferraris are unbeatable for subjective charisma and character IMO.
When I bought my Gallardo it was part wanting more performance and part wanting some attention. I initially bought a C4S because it was my dream car and actually felt better to drive than the Gallardo.
However, that was 1st gen Gallardo and the one I bought is 2nd gen and so much better. Paddles are faster and transmission doesn’t jerk in traffic. In all, a much better car than its predecessor.
I was curious how this compared to the 458 and so I rented one from those exotic rentals and WOW. Clearly, it’s not just brand recognition but pure performance. The 458 made me a better driver than I really am and it gave me incredible confidence to go faster and faster. It is also a lot louder than the Lambo. What most impressed me is how agile it is. In some ways, it felt more agile than the Porsche and the 458 would just go precisely where you point it like some scientific instructment.
The price for a 458 is coming down to what I can afford and I would like the spider version because the engine is exciting with the top down.
I don’t really go to the track so just enjoying the small burst of acceleration now and then on the highway. These cars are most exciting when going in a tunnel and you just have to be on 2nd gear to enjoy their symphonies.
In the end, it really is about the exclusivity. Could you imagine if everyone drove a Lambo or Ferrari? I doubt you still think it’s special. It’s having something that most ppl don’t have that gives you that smile and all the haters that come along with these cars.
This thread has gone seriously off topic... whatever.
FWIW, I drove my 488 about 3200 miles in its first year, it would have been more but it was stuck in the dealership for 5 months while we argued about some build quality issues.
It’s not an everyday car - I have a Golf R for that - but driving the 488 is pretty special even compared to my two GT3s. I’m taking it to Spain and France in a few weeks, searching out the best drivers roads, it will be a lot of fun. It will pick up some stone chips but I don’t care.
Sadly though, in spite of its performance and abilities, it’s an unloved car as the number for sale testifies and owners with cars which have seen any real use will take a bath at resale time. In no sense is it an investment proposition.
The F8 is likely to be the last series car with a pure combustion engine before electricity and Euro 7 spoil the party, never mind speed limiters which is why I have gone for one.
Just in case you think everything in the McLaren world is perfect, I recently saw a demonstrator and on the passenger seat was a defect list completed by a tester which was an eye opener. In my opinion, build quality is best at Porsche, then Lamborghini thanks to the Audi influence, then Ferrari and finally McLaren.
FWIW, I drove my 488 about 3200 miles in its first year, it would have been more but it was stuck in the dealership for 5 months while we argued about some build quality issues.
It’s not an everyday car - I have a Golf R for that - but driving the 488 is pretty special even compared to my two GT3s. I’m taking it to Spain and France in a few weeks, searching out the best drivers roads, it will be a lot of fun. It will pick up some stone chips but I don’t care.
Sadly though, in spite of its performance and abilities, it’s an unloved car as the number for sale testifies and owners with cars which have seen any real use will take a bath at resale time. In no sense is it an investment proposition.
The F8 is likely to be the last series car with a pure combustion engine before electricity and Euro 7 spoil the party, never mind speed limiters which is why I have gone for one.
Just in case you think everything in the McLaren world is perfect, I recently saw a demonstrator and on the passenger seat was a defect list completed by a tester which was an eye opener. In my opinion, build quality is best at Porsche, then Lamborghini thanks to the Audi influence, then Ferrari and finally McLaren.
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