RE: PH Meets: Lanzante's F1-engined Porsche 930

[anonymous-user]

Absolutely love it but the price is mental for the amount of work involved. I can maybe see it if it were a one off but with the engine development split over 11... GTFO!

[RemyMartin81D]

Now that is excellent, both in levels of coolness and also the engineering build.

Thumbs up and massive want. Love to see a video of it running and under full load.

[dinkel]

Wow... Hard to beat a Ruf or a 935 but this is a technical feat.

[Zombie]

OMG That's gorgeous!

[bandintransit]

Pretty much the coolest thing ever

[Escy]

A bi-turbo V6 engine swapped into a Porsche is the way forward.

[Gary C]

SimonTheSailor said:

Probably even with the engine work being done it's still not going to be that useable/nice on the road is it ?

Race engines are just different to road engines........

Not really a race engine anymore.

[coolsteve]

Oh to hear and see it going.

[browngt3]

anonymous said:

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Think you're missing the point a little bit. I doubt very much they set out to create a great drivers car for the road. I also doubt they set out to create a restomod to compete with Singer et al. The point is to do something crazy like stick an F1 engine in an old 911 and make it road legal. Better still, not any old F1 engine but a Porsche F1 engine! It's interesting from an engineering perspective and it will be bonkers to drive. May yet still make a decent drivers car for the road but who knows till there's a road test? (here's hoping!)

[browngt3]

If you thought the Singer Williams sounded amazing going up Goodwood Hill, wait until you hear this!

[big_rob_sydney]

Not really that impressed, to be honest. ~500 horses? Regular road cars from BMW do that all day every day with warranty, etc, so they haven't exceeded anything there.

Last I checked, those same BMW's are nowhere near a million quid, either.

Provenance? Really?! The engines aren't original, nor are they in the chassis they competed with. It's a Frankenstein build.

[browngt3]

big_rob_sydney said:

Not really that impressed, to be honest. ~500 horses? Regular road cars from BMW do that all day every day with warranty, etc, so they haven't exceeded anything there.

Last I checked, those same BMW's are nowhere near a million quid, either.

Provenance? Really?! The engines aren't original, nor are they in the chassis they competed with. It's a Frankenstein build.

You're missing the point too. In qualifying trim that engine would put out something like 1500hp. It's been detuned for longevity and usability. Worth noting too that if you're going to compare with a BMW then the most powerful 1980s M cars made 286hp.

Really don't understand what people aren't getting here

[blade7]

How many hours/miles between rebuilds, and how much to rebuild the engine? And after replacing the turbos,crankcase/pistons/valve gear etc, what is left from the engines glory days....

[anonymous-user]

How long until every old 911 has had a million quid make over?

[Maldini35]

browngt3 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

Not really that impressed, to be honest. ~500 horses? Regular road cars from BMW do that all day every day with warranty, etc, so they haven't exceeded anything there.

Last I checked, those same BMW's are nowhere near a million quid, either.

Provenance? Really?! The engines aren't original, nor are they in the chassis they competed with. It's a Frankenstein build.

You're missing the point too. In qualifying trim that engine would put out something like 1500hp. It's been detuned for longevity and usability. Worth noting too that if you're going to compare with a BMW then the most powerful 1980s M cars made 286hp.

Really don't understand what people aren't getting here

Agreed.

If they kept the engines in race tune people would moan that they are undriveable and would need a rebuild every 1000 miles.
Can’t win on PH sometimes.

In fact why buy any old performance car? After all, many are very tricky on the limit.
Forget that F40, just buy an M5 saloon...

Edited by Maldini35 on Sunday 10th March 17:47

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Just to add, this car actually makes me want to go to the goodwood fos just to hear it.

Last time that happened was the Morgan 3 wheeler!

[cramorra]

Connectors said:

“It has also fitted smaller turbos that spool up quicker and added a new crankcase.” It’s not really an ex F1 engine imo. Original pistons, crank, cams etc etc?

It’s still a lovely car and a great example of what they can do, but it’s not what the headlines promise.

The engine had 7 races it would need all this stuff ow it would blow that carbon fibre bonnet of it on the first outing
Marvellous engineering and the sound....
Wonder how they managed the exhausts and manifolds

[Tin Hat]

I need a vehicle with TAG Turbo on the instruments. I am the kind of shallow sucker that is completely sold on stuff like that, it is a thing of great desirability.

[Nik Gnashers]

I'll never afford any 911, so it's just dreamland stuff for me. But, I f...ing love that.

[big_rob_sydney]

Maldini35 said:

browngt3 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

Not really that impressed, to be honest. ~500 horses? Regular road cars from BMW do that all day every day with warranty, etc, so they haven't exceeded anything there.

Last I checked, those same BMW's are nowhere near a million quid, either.

Provenance? Really?! The engines aren't original, nor are they in the chassis they competed with. It's a Frankenstein build.

You're missing the point too. In qualifying trim that engine would put out something like 1500hp. It's been detuned for longevity and usability. Worth noting too that if you're going to compare with a BMW then the most powerful 1980s M cars made 286hp.

Really don't understand what people aren't getting here

Agreed.

If they kept the engines in race tune people would moan that they are undriveable and would need a rebuild every 1000 miles.
Can’t win on PH sometimes.

In fact why buy any old performance car? After all, many are very tricky on the limit.
Forget that F40, just buy an M5 saloon...

Edited by Maldini35 on Sunday 10th March 17:47

The thing is, its not in qualifying trim. It is what it is; 500 horses. If I won the lottery, I'd have XY and Z, but guess what? Some people need to live in the real world, not in their make believe fantasy land.

I don't care what it *could* have. I'm more interested in what it *does* have.

Really don't understand what some people aren't getting here...