RE: Jaguar Land Rover recalls 44,000 cars

RE: Jaguar Land Rover recalls 44,000 cars

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Twincharged

1,851 posts

204 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Jazzy Jag said:
That is complete BS.

There is no fault with those part and no campaign to change them to the best of my knowledge.

44000 units is less that 1 months global production.
This whole thing is a storm in a teacup but, hey it's JLR so give them a kicking.
Exactly that. The 44,000 units recalled doesn't mean that they are all affected either, it just means there's a chance they will be affected.

I have had two recalls on my BMW - latest one was for a battery cable, and there was also one for a security software update. Was I upset? Not really. In the case of the battery cable, it was due to the potential for the cable to cause a fire, but the probability of that happening is presumably very low (it hadn't been left to the point where BMW fires are in the daily news, so they must have caught it early). Similarly, the security loophole with the keys wasn't ideal, but they put in a fix to sort it. I'm far happier that companies are making sure they have sorted these things than I am angry about them happening in the first place. But putting them right does matter.

Campaigns are actually a bonus really, because they're the manufacturer going out of their way to make something better. Is that better than leaving your car with niggles and not mention them? I would say so. It's also the way car manufacturers are going to go, as they will follow the mobile phone software business model more closely, where you buy the product and features are added throughout the lifetime of the car. Tesla are ahead of the curve on this, as a lot of their cars are gaining new features (like Ludicrous Mode) a while after they have left the showroom (although admittedly the minimal number of mechanical parts does make that far easier for them than ICE car manufacturers).

TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

221 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Domf said:
DevonPaul said:
So what we're suddenly finding out is that a Jag XE at 1.7 tonnes doesn't actually emit less CO2 per km than a 1.2L Clio and that it shouldn't be zero rated VED?

I'm shocked

rolleyes
Be ready to be shocked:-
1. I have the zero rated VED XE and it's a diesel (not known for CO2 emissions, more likely NOX) and after 57,000 miles it averages 55mpg
2. Renault Clio will it do 55mpg probably not in petrol form, but will emit more C02
3. Renault produce the dirtest range of diesels in Europe, Fact from the European car industry results 2018. The Dacia Sandero (Renault) due it's low price doesn't have anything apart from a pipe for an exhaust, it fell off the scale when measuring, both the Renault and Nissan which share the same diesel technology, in fact the Renault euro 6 diesels aren't much cleaner than most of the competition's Euro 5 engines!
Seeing as CO2 is a direct measure of how much fuel and how efficient an engine/power train is.

How can two cars using the same fuel , in the same atmosphere, the same chemical composition of fuel , using the same measurement standards do the same MPG yet emit different amounts of CO2v

vikingaero

10,256 posts

168 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Christ you lot! Won't somebody think about the Polar Bears?

Shirley we should draw a line under this. So many manufacturers have been busted for emissions. We should say, the next company to ferk around with emissions data gets a 100% turnover fine and 50 years imprisonment for all directors. It will be like putting a spike on the steering wheel instead of an airbag...

Richales

237 posts

204 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Oops, not a great move by JLR, although looks like doesn’t affect their Newest SVR monster which seems that customers are taking their first deliveries of now:

https://youtu.be/YTPyftXIUNo

ian_cab28

207 posts

216 months

Monday 18th March 2019
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No they were notorious for not working consistently so sounds about right.


Jazzy Jag said:
That is complete BS.

There is no fault with those part and no campaign to change them to the best of my knowledge.

44000 units is less that 1 months global production.
This whole thing is a storm in a teacup but, hey it's JLR so give them a kicking.

ian_cab28

207 posts

216 months

Monday 18th March 2019
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What gives you that idea !? The brand and aspects of the company yes , the overstuffed , dire, unimaginative leyland-esque middle/senior management more focused on their pension scheme than their very possible annihilation over the next decade ...no.

it needs to focus on being a product business too many people there dicking around thinking it is Burberry on wheels or that st reliability is "character" worth having for the "upsides". So I care it is fixed I just think it needs to be radically restructured and I don't see it being able to do that tbh without crisis being the catalyst. I feel like the last 6 yrs have been squandered surfing the volume wave but not making the necessary culture changes.

2smoke said:
I'm guessing from your last six comments you aren't a JLR fan? Me either to be honest and if it is true that JLR were playing the emissions cheat game like the Germans, then this is despicable behaviour. However, I just find this news disappointing. Like them or loathe them JLR are still a British brand, albeit under foreign ownership, and as a Brit I want our brands to succeed and help our economy to grow. I hope they can resolve this issue without too much pain for existing owners and that the brand can eventually return to strength.

Jazzy Jag

3,412 posts

90 months

Monday 18th March 2019
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ian_cab28 said:
No they were notorious for not working consistently so sounds about right.


Jazzy Jag said:
That is complete BS.

There is no fault with those part and no campaign to change them to the best of my knowledge.

44000 units is less that 1 months global production.
This whole thing is a storm in a teacup but, hey it's JLR so give them a kicking.
It was traces to be a wiring issue inside the tailgate.

There is no campaign to replace the sensors

Sford

427 posts

149 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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She worked on the finance side of things so there is probably an element of interpretation to what she believed. But still, she said it was something being done when cars came in for service. The sensor (as in the function of waving your foot under the bumper to open the boot) wasn't working and were being fixed when they came in for service.

Zoon

6,654 posts

120 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Richales said:
Oops, not a great move by JLR, although looks like doesn’t affect their Newest SVR monster which seems that customers are taking their first deliveries of now:

https://youtu.be/YTPyftXIUNo
Your video by any chance?