RE: Tesla Model Y released

[Onehp]

FerrariGuy007 said:

I was thinking maybe just add manual gear box and na engine and this should be good?

You forgot the manual handbrake

[B17NNS]

aarondbs said:

My journey was pleasant, anxious free and could not have been achieved in a Tesla.

aarondbs said:

Last week was Chesterfield to Cardiff

[aarondbs]

humphra said:

Blimey, this touched a few nerves! Personally I think they're good points that have been made. Range, charging points and charging times are currently inhibitors to widespread adoption. Improvements are behind made, but the ICE still has the advantage for the time being.

Thank you Humpha. I don’t know why my expressing an opinion is any less or more valid than anyone else’s. I have an X5 hybrid back home so I’m not entirely living in the past! That’s also godawaful due to the crappy 4cylinder engine but that’s another story..

[aarondbs]

BenjiS said:

213 miles each way? Perfectly achievable in all Teslas.

https://www.tesla.com/trips#/?v=M3_2015_74&o=F...

Quick break around 100 miles for a coffee and a piss and 10 minute charge just to be on the safe side.

What about on the way back?

[aarondbs]

B17NNS said:

What be these red dots?

[RemarkLima]

aarondbs said:

B17NNS said:

What be these red dots?

Dragon! Witches! Ne'er ye go there, or ye face ye doom!

[RobDickinson]

Typical retarded 1970s views of motoring and electric cars shown by the cretins of PH who all seem to drive a minimum of 1000 miles every single day whilst towing a caravan at 120 mph pissing into bottles because real company directors don't stop.

Say goodbye to your hydrocarbon polluting dinosaurs, they've a handful of years left.

[aarondbs]

RemarkLima said:

Dragon! Witches! Ne'er ye go there, or ye face ye doom!

Behold the three toed tail of the beast!

[mrnoisy78]

shalmaneser said:

Thanks for sharing your valuable insight. Who would have guessed a journey over 300 miles without the opportunity to recharge would not be ideal for a Tesla!? The scales have truly fallen from my eyes.

Peronally I think it's quite good looking, and will no doubt be ideal for the school run which can currently only be attempted in a diesel 4x4 around my parts for some reason.

Bore off it’s people like you making the car industry duller by the day...
As for the people who buy the marketing figures on range - yes that must be true, I mean it’s not like VW ever lied on emissions or manufacturers grossly exaggerate mpg claims is it...
Everyone in my office who has an electric car says in colder weather the range turns to crap.

[aarondbs]

RobDickinson said:

Typical retarded 1970s views of motoring and electric cars shown by the cretins of PH who all seem to drive a minimum of 1000 miles every single day whilst towing a caravan at 120 mph pissing into bottles because real company directors don't stop.

Say goodbye to your hydrocarbon polluting dinosaurs, they've a handful of years left.

Or possibly jumping on the electrified bandwagon because that’s the hipster thing to do. It is potentially an expensive and natural resource-wasteful experiment. Battery tech has developed a little from the milk float whilst ICE continues to develop faster. Diesel is now as clean as petrol and develops less co2 and who knows what we might combust in the future.

For those of us not in the trendy southern bubble where people get trains to work and where our customers and business contacts are spread across the UK and beyond they just don’t cut it and are built for those technical bods.

Car people like engines! An electric motor is not an engine and does not have pistons..

Electric cars are toys. Nothing more and nothing less.

[anonymous-user]

RobDickinson said:

Typical retarded 1970s views of motoring and electric cars shown by the cretins of PH who all seem to drive a minimum of 1000 miles every single day whilst towing a caravan at 120 mph pissing into bottles because real company directors don't stop.

Say goodbye to your hydrocarbon polluting dinosaurs, they've a handful of years left.

Tedious.

[MDL111]

RobDickinson said:

Typical retarded 1970s views of motoring and electric cars shown by the cretins of PH who all seem to drive a minimum of 1000 miles every single day whilst towing a caravan at 120 mph pissing into bottles because real company directors don't stop.

Say goodbye to your hydrocarbon polluting dinosaurs, they've a handful of years left.

So my retarded 1970s cretin view based on my driving last week is that it would not work (yet anyway) - therefore I gave an example.

I like EVs, but it doesn’t work for me and a lot of other people at the moment.

Another example - My brother and my father each drive 50k km a year, some of it long distances in one go - guess what, wouldn’t work for them either.

Doesn’t make them or me a cretin ....

My driving last week
Thursday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Friday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Saturday 150 km at Autobahn speeds
Sunday 930 km
Then a little town driving for 2 days living in a French city where there were no charging points
Thursday 930 km

And I don’t have time to screw around and make it a leasurly drive with frequent long stops/planning my route to recharge the batteries - filing up my 90L tank takes about 10 minutes all in and depending on speed I can probably get 250-450km out of it

[Talksteer]

3795mpower said:

when we say this year surely we mean U.K deliveries sometime
This century ?

My Dad has waited so long for the famed 3 that he’s gone off the idea,
Audi and all are about to get the jump on Tesla.

Not everyone wants a plastic dash and a touchscreen !

The issue is this; the "Tesla killers" are all scheduled to arrive at the same time as the Model Y. They offer inferior range and performance for a like for like cost.

However the really big issue is that all the Tesla competitors are avoiding "production hell" by setting much lower production goals generally in the 10,000s at about the same time as Tesla will be delivering 1,000,000 premium cars.

The other bold prediction I will make is that as the Model Y is based on the Model 3 there will probably be range/performance upgrades between now and it being launched.

Also look on youtube for videos of Model X's towing all sorts of pick-ups and SUVs backward including backwards up a snow covered hill.

Edited by Talksteer on Saturday 16th March 00:56

[herebebeasties]

MDL111 said:

So my retarded 1970s cretin view based on my driving last week is that it would not work (yet anyway) - therefore I gave an example.

I like EVs, but it doesn’t work for me and a lot of other people at the moment.

Another example - My brother and my father each drive 50k km a year, some of it long distances in one go - guess what, wouldn’t work for them either.

Doesn’t make them or me a cretin ....

My driving last week
Thursday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Friday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Saturday 150 km at Autobahn speeds
Sunday 930 km
Then a little town driving for 2 days living in a French city where there were no charging points
Thursday 930 km

And I don’t have time to screw around and make it a leasurly drive with frequent long stops/planning my route to recharge the batteries - filing up my 90L tank takes about 10 minutes all in and depending on speed I can probably get 250-450km out of it

Complaining about EVs not suiting you is like whinging that you can't fit three wardrobes in the back of a Volvo estate. Clearly that makes it useless compared to a Transit van.

You're clearly ninety-fifth percentile (or whatever) for mileage. Well done you. Why do you think that makes a solution that works for the other 95% of drivers idiotic and useless? Why do you feel the need to comment so vehemently about that?

I'm frankly confused. I like whisky. My friend Tom doesn't like whisky. I don't make him drink whisky when we go out for a drink.

There are many people who drive hundreds of miles a day for whom electric cars are obviously not currently viable. What is the point you're trying to make, exactly? That because they're not suitable for you, no one else can have one? That's, err, nonsensical.

[essayer]

MDL111 said:

Doesn’t make them or me a cretin ....

My driving last week
Thursday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Friday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Saturday 150 km at Autobahn speeds
Sunday 930 km
Then a little town driving for 2 days living in a French city where there were no charging points
Thursday 930 km

Wow, sounds really fun.

I don’t do that sort of mileage, so I did it all in an EV.

[JonnyVTEC]

Isn’t this about the Tesla model Y rather than Tesla why?

[MDL111]

herebebeasties said:

MDL111 said:

So my retarded 1970s cretin view based on my driving last week is that it would not work (yet anyway) - therefore I gave an example.

I like EVs, but it doesn’t work for me and a lot of other people at the moment.

Another example - My brother and my father each drive 50k km a year, some of it long distances in one go - guess what, wouldn’t work for them either.

Doesn’t make them or me a cretin ....

My driving last week
Thursday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Friday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Saturday 150 km at Autobahn speeds
Sunday 930 km
Then a little town driving for 2 days living in a French city where there were no charging points
Thursday 930 km

And I don’t have time to screw around and make it a leasurly drive with frequent long stops/planning my route to recharge the batteries - filing up my 90L tank takes about 10 minutes all in and depending on speed I can probably get 250-450km out of it

Complaining about EVs not suiting you is like whinging that you can't fit three wardrobes in the back of a Volvo estate. Clearly that makes it useless compared to a Transit van.

You're clearly ninety-fifth percentile (or whatever) for mileage. Well done you. Why do you think that makes a solution that works for the other 95% of drivers idiotic and useless? Why do you feel the need to comment so vehemently about that?

I'm frankly confused. I like whisky. My friend Tom doesn't like whisky. I don't make him drink whisky when we go out for a drink.

There are many people who drive hundreds of miles a day for whom electric cars are obviously not currently viable. What is the point you're trying to make, exactly? That because they're not suitable for you, no one else can have one? That's, err, nonsensical.

I said I like EVs and said I would like to buy one, but they don’t work for me and some others at the moment - I did give an example and do not appreciate being called a cretin for commenting. Last time I checked you don’t have to own one to comment on here. Also don’t see what was vehement about it

I also never said idiotic or anything of the ilk

[MDL111]

essayer said:

MDL111 said:

Doesn’t make them or me a cretin ....

My driving last week
Thursday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Friday 600 km at Autobahn speeds
Saturday 150 km at Autobahn speeds
Sunday 930 km
Then a little town driving for 2 days living in a French city where there were no charging points
Thursday 930 km

Wow, sounds really fun.

I don’t do that sort of mileage, so I did it all in an EV.

Yeah well there is more fun to be had with other driving, luckily don’t do that all the time.

[alfabadass]

I think Tesla are missing a trick not releasing a Golf sized car or smaller.

[Jader1973]

Jon_S_Rally said:

What might help them is if they drop all this sub-5 second 0-60 business to impress people. Make a Golf-sized EV that does 0-60 in 8-10 seconds, looks like a normal car, is built as well as a normal car, can do 5-600 miles between charges. and is priced like a normal car. That's the EV the general market actually needs, not something with "ludicrous" mode for children in adult bodies that have money to burn.

I read an interview with the guy in charge of developing the Mercedes EQC. He said one of the biggest challenges they had was getting the drivability right. The instant torque meant they found it harder than an ICE to get it how they wanted it.