Birmingham Crash

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Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
But we arent talking about black we were talking about Asian.

Why twist the narrative to gain more percentage and divert attention?

More white percentages are convicted than Asian.

So how does that support the Asians are more likely to be in the wrong? Shall we repost?..


I hate racists whether they are open or veiled. There's nothing wrong with Asians.

As for the tax above. Pop into any area and you'll see countless untaxed cars daily.

Again why twist to make out Asian males are lawless?
yeh but lexus are teh best cars

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
But we arent talking about black we were talking about Asian.

Why twist the narrative to gain more percentage and divert attention?

More white percentages are convicted than Asian.

So how does that support the Asians are more likely to be in the wrong? Shall we repost?..


I hate racists whether they are open or veiled. There's nothing wrong with Asians.

As for the tax above. Pop into any area and you'll see countless untaxed cars daily.

Again why twist to make out Asian males are lawless?
By your logic the courts are racist against white people?

I just posted you some facts. Sorry the facts don't paint a perfect picture of BAME activity in our country.

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Tim bo said:
yeh but lexus are teh best cars
They are.

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
That's right, the white percentages are higher.

Therefore you are agree. Throughout all the conviction rates bar weapons white conviction rates are higher than Asian.

Yet Asians are arrested slightly more.
Bar weapons. Fairly big deal that one.

Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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st4 said:
Sa Calobra said:
That's right, the white percentages are higher.

Therefore you are agree. Throughout all the conviction rates bar weapons white conviction rates are higher than Asian.

Yet Asians are arrested slightly more.
Bar weapons. Fairly big deal that one.
Indeed that massive 1.2% figure eh?

Also a big deal is violence against a person and sex offences...

But again let's grab at figures we can use in a narrative

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
sex offences...
Rotherham.

Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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st4 said:
Rotherham.
Jimmy Saville, Ian Watkins, Rolf Harris, Fred and Rose West, Harvey Weinstein, Phillip Green, Woody Allen, Kevin Spacey, Josef Fritzl ...

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Tim bo said:
Jimmy Saville, Ian Watkins, Rolf Harris, Fred and Rose West, Harvey Weinstein, Phillip Green, Woody Allen, Kevin Spacey, Josef Fritzl ...
Manchester, London, Charlie Hebdo, Nice, 9/11 etc

You don't want to play this game wink

Sa Calobra

37,126 posts

211 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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st4 said:
Manchester, London, Charlie Hebdo, Nice, 9/11 etc

You don't want to play this game wink
Game?

War in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?

It's not a game. Racism starts with bending facts to fit a narrative, looking at the smaller picture and getting others to believe the same.



Then there's taking a reported local story and sharing it nationally with other selected stories.

Don't believe the racism. Yes we have issues in our society but it's deeper than race or religion. It's class and poverty with generations brought up with no compass or work ethic.




Davie

4,745 posts

215 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Hazuki said:
A friend lives on a side road of this dual carriageway and heard the bang. General consensus is that the Bentley and Audi S3 were racing each other. Her and a lot of the locals rushed out to try and help and she told me she'll never forget the harrowing screams of the mother in the BMW. Police officers who arrived on scene were also visibly shaken.

RIP to the two little boys (ages 10 and 2) who died because of some utter cocks racing on the dual carrageway. The Audi driver who ploughed in to the car didn't even have the decency to hang around and abandoned the car. Hope both are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
I had a feeling the BMW may have been the innocent party but this makes for tough reading. What a tragic waste of life and I can't begin to imagine what the patents and family are going through. Yet another family destroyed by the actions of those with scant disregard for law and life. This country is appalling.

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
Game?

War in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria?

It's not a game. Racism starts with bending facts to fit a narrative, looking at the smaller picture and getting others to believe the same.



Then there's taking a reported local story and sharing it nationally with other selected stories.

Don't believe the racism. Yes we have issues in our society but it's deeper than race or religion. It's class and poverty with generations brought up with no compass or work ethic.
And yet these issues really have appeared since WWII - so when we opened our country up to mass scale immigration and it’s unprecedented and exponential population growth in the last 70 or so years.

The war was a decision (wrong on) by politicians at the time. Not a crime and my thoughts on it if we are at war with a people you don’t have these people and their allies/sympathisers freely living in your country.

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Davie said:
I had a feeling the BMW may have been the innocent party but this makes for tough reading. What a tragic waste of life and I can't begin to imagine what the patents and family are going through. Yet another family destroyed by the actions of those with scant disregard for law and life. This country is appalling.
Scant regard for the law yes - life not sure - it looks an unintended consequence of a bit of tomfoolery.

If the Audi just missed the bmw this thread wouldn’t exist.

Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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st4 said:
freely living in your country.
It is not your country smile

Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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st4 said:
Manchester, London, Charlie Hebdo, Nice, 9/11 etc

You don't want to play this game wink
Stalin, Adolf Hitler

I can out-massacre and out-genocide you easily. smile

silverfoxcc

7,689 posts

145 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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st4 said:
All valid points and on reflection my original post mentioning this is probably wrong...

But the very last sentence "NOT that that matters to scum like him" seems a bit OTT. It was maybe a moment of madness, silliness, that does not make them scum and I still don't believe Jail is really the place for young bucks who get a big eager in a car. A very very long ban is probably a better option particularly in all other areas the chaps probably a productive and law abiding member of society.
st4

I was referring to the fact that he did a runner...it may or may not imply that he could be of ,how can you term it?, a non law abiding citizen, but anyone who leaves the scene of an accident, is in my mind not worthy of being considered a human being and therefore is lowlife.
Apologies if i sound a bit draconian, but that's the way i was brought up

Cerdo Espada

432 posts

64 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Davie said:
Hazuki said:
A friend lives on a side road of this dual carriageway and heard the bang. General consensus is that the Bentley and Audi S3 were racing each other. Her and a lot of the locals rushed out to try and help and she told me she'll never forget the harrowing screams of the mother in the BMW. Police officers who arrived on scene were also visibly shaken.

RIP to the two little boys (ages 10 and 2) who died because of some utter cocks racing on the dual carrageway. The Audi driver who ploughed in to the car didn't even have the decency to hang around and abandoned the car. Hope both are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
I had a feeling the BMW may have been the innocent party but this makes for tough reading. What a tragic waste of life and I can't begin to imagine what the patents and family are going through. Yet another family destroyed by the actions of those with scant disregard for law and life. This country is appalling.
It does appear to become more appalling by the day, I agree. But what changed ?

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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J4CKO said:
These guys need some education and to see the potential consequences, they also need to be kept in check better by the Police,

Are you really this naive?

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Tim bo said:
It is not your country smile
Oh yes it is.

st4

1,359 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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silverfoxcc said:
st4

I was referring to the fact that he did a runner...it may or may not imply that he could be of ,how can you term it?, a non law abiding citizen, but anyone who leaves the scene of an accident, is in my mind not worthy of being considered a human being and therefore is lowlife.
Apologies if i sound a bit draconian, but that's the way i was brought up
Ah - my bad.

I thought the Bentley dude stuck around, the Audi driver did the fleeing. I suspect the Audi was probably stolen. The Bentley no.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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blade7 said:
J4CKO said:
These guys need some education and to see the potential consequences, they also need to be kept in check better by the Police,

Are you really this naive?
Good luck with that. The areas where these people live are a no licence go cart track, and the police cars get stoned where they stop. Also a mob forms around any arrest.