Will you still love cars when they’re all electric?

Will you still love cars when they’re all electric?

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SonicHedgeHog

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2,538 posts

182 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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Took my nephew out for a drive the other day. Young lad, loves cars. Dropped it down a couple of gears as we went through a tunnel. Decat, sports exhaust and six cylinders did the trick. He loved it and so did I. We didn’t break the speed limit because we didn’t need to. The roof was off, the sound was amazing, the gear change rewarding and we could really feel what the car was doing. We also didn’t break the speed limit because the tunnel has average speed cameras.....

Anyway, the point of all this is, even if I was in the most amazing electric convertible hyper car that drive through the tunnel would have been boring. No sound, no gear change, no mechanical vibrations, no......no nothing.

Electric cars are necessary for our planet and when the technology is perfected they’ll make awesome daily drivers. But for the bloke who loves to drive? I think he’s going to be left wanting. What do you reckon? I know I’m keeping my current car until they take my licence away.

ninepoint2

3,279 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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No I won't

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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To be frank nearly all motorists don’t give two titties about engines

Looks
Functionality
Reliable
Price
In car entertainment
Speed

Noise/gear change doesn’t register.

So your looking at a niche of people - and as time goes by the young drivers will know no different.

But to be fair you also need a pretty special engine to enjoy it through a tunnel so right now most engines wouldn’t pass that test very well either.

To think we now have full production saloon and estate family cars with more power than a McLaren F1 and same said car is well below 7 seconds to 100mph ie a whisker between family car and the pinnacle of McLaren F1.

kavster296

155 posts

77 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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I hope so as it's the only thing i'm interested in.
I just can't see how they are going to make electric cars interesting for the enthusiast as it's more than straight line ability.
I am excited to see where the world of simulation games takes us in the next 20 years though...

SonicHedgeHog

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182 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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Welshbeef said:
To think we now have full production saloon and estate family cars with more power than a McLaren F1 and same said car is well below 7 seconds to 100mph ie a whisker between family car and the pinnacle of McLaren F1.
And which car would you rather have? I’ll take the V12 in the McLaren over anything currently in production. It’s not how quickly you travel, it’s about the journey.

Wacky Racer

38,159 posts

247 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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The Internal Combustion Engine is a relic of the early years of the last century, noisy, smelly...bring on electric power, providing the boffins can increase the range in the next ten years or so.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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Once the majority of white goods transport is electric you'll still be able to enjoy your fossil fuel burning weekend toy.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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SonicHedgeHog said:
And which car would you rather have? I’ll take the V12 in the McLaren over anything currently in production. It’s not how quickly you travel, it’s about the journey.
XJs 5.3 V12s are not pricy to buy so you could bag. One of those. Though you’d be using filling stations a lot and a basic warm hatch would destroy it in every measurable challenge .

SonicHedgeHog

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Sunday 17th March 2019
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Wacky Racer said:
The Internal Combustion Engine is a relic of the early years of the last century, noisy, smelly...bring on electric power, providing the boffins can increase the range in the next ten years or so.
Yep, totally agree with all that. But it’s the noisy, smelly stuff that makes them exciting. Traffic and speed cameras largely restrict how fast you can go these days. So the major trump card that electric cars have - unbelievable speed - is restricted by the environment they operate in.

I’m really looking forward to my first electric car. It’ll probably drive for me and cost peanuts to fuel. But I can’t see how anyone is going to make something that stirs the sense like the “relics of the last century”.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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Ev trump card is efficiency low nvh and energy recovery. Power is just a byproduct of large batteries.

SonicHedgeHog

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Sunday 17th March 2019
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Welshbeef said:
XJs 5.3 V12s are not pricy to buy so you could bag. One of those. Though you’d be using filling stations a lot and a basic warm hatch would destroy it in every measurable challenge .
Odd comment. I never mentioned anything about the lazy Jag V12. Also, how often do you find yourself in race on the road? You’re missing my point. It’s not about how fast you’re going becaus you’re never in a race on the road. It’s about being involved in the drive. I’m just asking whether anyone thinks an electric car will be able to provide the same level of involvement and excitement as a petrol car.

SonicHedgeHog

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Sunday 17th March 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Ev trump card is efficiency low nvh and energy recovery. Power is just a byproduct of large batteries.
A factually correct statement that proves my point. It’s trump card is so dull it’s sending me to sleep.

RobDickinson

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254 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Odd comment. I never mentioned anything about the lazy Jag V12. Also, how often do you find yourself in race on the road? You’re missing my point. It’s not about how fast you’re going becaus you’re never in a race on the road. It’s about being involved in the drive. I’m just asking whether anyone thinks an electric car will be able to provide the same level of involvement and excitement as a petrol car.
Nope they won't. There will be fun ev's and fast ev's but an analog experience they won't be.

But most cars now are auto box electric power steering isolation machines anyhow.

One reason why I have an mx5 it's not quick but I'm connected and involved.

SonicHedgeHog

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Sunday 17th March 2019
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Precisely

Wacky Racer

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247 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Wacky Racer said:
The Internal Combustion Engine is a relic of the early years of the last century, noisy, smelly...bring on electric power, providing the boffins can increase the range in the next ten years or so.
Yep, totally agree with all that. But it’s the noisy, smelly stuff that makes them exciting. Traffic and speed cameras largely restrict how fast you can go these days. So the major trump card that electric cars have - unbelievable speed - is restricted by the environment they operate in.

I’m really looking forward to my first electric car. It’ll probably drive for me and cost peanuts to fuel. But I can’t see how anyone is going to make something that stirs the sense like the “relics of the last century”.
Don't get me wrong, I'm as much of a petrolhead as anyone on here, I've had most things from Morgans to Harley Davidsons, but times change, even Morgan are exploring the benefits of Electric technology.

Don't stick your head in the sand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxZs2-gICc

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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Most EVs will be boring, because most cars are boring.

Evs dont have to be boring though. Just dont expect the same noise and gears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8bV8SKeQOo

overunder12g

432 posts

86 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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No doubt, my Grandchildren me as prehs
toric, but I enjoy my cars and motorbikes as smelly petrol powered things.
I will leave them to them!

HustleRussell

24,691 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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I might not ‘love’ contemporary electric cars, but that doesn’t mean I won’t love driving.

Mr Tidy

22,313 posts

127 months

Monday 18th March 2019
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I could never love an EV - but thankfully cars with an ICE will be around longer than I will! laugh

cerb4.5lee

30,566 posts

180 months

Monday 18th March 2019
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Absolutely not, noise is and will always be the most enjoyable bit with a car for me. I dropped my window earlier today when I saw a V8 Mustang, I was hoping that he would put his foot down and he thankfully did! It made my day...sad but true.

Electric cars can kiss my ass! I love speed but noise is more important to me.