RE: BMW 320d: Driven
Discussion
Vee12V said:
Wills2 said:
1525kg if that's EU then that's a great achievement in a car this big, looks good in blue with the M sport bits as well.
I'd like to see like for like specced cars on a scale. The whole 'the 2019 3 Series is up to 55kg lighter than the F30' is complete BS, as they compare the heaviest of the old series to the lightest of the new one.Will be interesting to see what happens to the popularity of the 320d. As pointed out earlier the BIK is around £400 per month and the 320i comes in quite a bit cheaper. As this is almost THE default rep mobile that sort of thing is important. This is one of the main problems facing the Jag XE.
The 330e is still quite a bit more expensive so out of reach of your average company car driver. Maybe a 320e on the way to keep the fleets happy. I’d be very interested in one of those!
PCPs will probably keep 320 diesels going for a bit longer but I’m guessing the residuals must be starting to favour petrol. Also, if it’s a private sale can’t see many people (outside of PH) taking a saloon over an X2/X3.
The 330e is still quite a bit more expensive so out of reach of your average company car driver. Maybe a 320e on the way to keep the fleets happy. I’d be very interested in one of those!
PCPs will probably keep 320 diesels going for a bit longer but I’m guessing the residuals must be starting to favour petrol. Also, if it’s a private sale can’t see many people (outside of PH) taking a saloon over an X2/X3.
I have a 2017 335d xdrive
the steering is horrible and completely artifical, devoid of any feel
the interior is awful and extremely bland for what the car cost
the engine is really nice
the interior of the new 3 series looks like a big improvement and certainly looks nice on the outside also, hope the steering is better too!
the steering is horrible and completely artifical, devoid of any feel
the interior is awful and extremely bland for what the car cost
the engine is really nice
the interior of the new 3 series looks like a big improvement and certainly looks nice on the outside also, hope the steering is better too!
Some positives for me are the weight reduction, and drag coefficient improvement. Those are actually great engineering achievements.
Not really a car for me though, because diesel seems to be already a defunct product. Or at least, I can't see *myself* buying one, because my thoughts would be around what to do with the damned thing once you're done with it.
Will you have trouble selling it at a reasonable price, or would you get shafted?
Not really a car for me though, because diesel seems to be already a defunct product. Or at least, I can't see *myself* buying one, because my thoughts would be around what to do with the damned thing once you're done with it.
Will you have trouble selling it at a reasonable price, or would you get shafted?
Interesting the test car was fitted with PS4S instead of run-flats - I wonder if this is a factory option i.e. delete RFT or just especially setup for these demo cars.
£48k for a 320d is nuts - you’ve been able to get a well specced 340i or 335d F3x for low to mid 30’s for a while. Prices will settle after launch, nobody will be paying anything like that sort of crazy list price for a 320d with every option.
£48k for a 320d is nuts - you’ve been able to get a well specced 340i or 335d F3x for low to mid 30’s for a while. Prices will settle after launch, nobody will be paying anything like that sort of crazy list price for a 320d with every option.
aaron_2000 said:
Tried one at an event a couple of weeks ago, brilliant car. Interior is a massive step up over the old model too.
It bloody well needs to be....I've had many many 3ers as company cars, and the outgoing model felt so bad it was like it was a deliberate move by BMW.
I remember thinking I'd rather have kept my 61-plate E91....
The plastics were horrid, as was the leather, which was the same on the 5 series for that matter...
Couldn't fault the Tech, but the C class / E class have BMW well beaten on interior quality until this.
Saw one in the local BMW dealership last week whilst the wife's car was in for a safety recall.
Really impressed with the build quality inside and I thought it was quite a handsome looking car.
New Z4 and 8 Series also looked ok.
This car will definitely sell well.
Really impressed with the build quality inside and I thought it was quite a handsome looking car.
New Z4 and 8 Series also looked ok.
This car will definitely sell well.
Edited by pSyCoSiS on Monday 18th March 14:19
NicoG said:
aaron_2000 said:
Tried one at an event a couple of weeks ago, brilliant car. Interior is a massive step up over the old model too.
It bloody well needs to be....I've had many many 3ers as company cars, and the outgoing model felt so bad it was like it was a deliberate move by BMW.
I remember thinking I'd rather have kept my 61-plate E91....
The plastics were horrid, as was the leather, which was the same on the 5 series for that matter...
Couldn't fault the Tech, but the C class / E class have BMW well beaten on interior quality until this.
aaron_2000 said:
NicoG said:
aaron_2000 said:
Tried one at an event a couple of weeks ago, brilliant car. Interior is a massive step up over the old model too.
It bloody well needs to be....I've had many many 3ers as company cars, and the outgoing model felt so bad it was like it was a deliberate move by BMW.
I remember thinking I'd rather have kept my 61-plate E91....
The plastics were horrid, as was the leather, which was the same on the 5 series for that matter...
Couldn't fault the Tech, but the C class / E class have BMW well beaten on interior quality until this.
IMHO The F31 interior is a much nicer place to be than my previous 2 E91s
jonpeck said:
griffdude said:
+1
IMHO The F31 interior is a much nicer place to be than my previous 2 E91s
The only thing I miss is the e92 pop out cup holders. IMHO The F31 interior is a much nicer place to be than my previous 2 E91s
Everything else was a massive upgrade.
In regards to price you will eventually find bigger discounts on larger engines.
Keith R said:
simonbamg said:
scottygib553 said:
Hurry up with the Touring already, BMW.
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