RE: Defender at the Nurburgring!

RE: Defender at the Nurburgring!

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Gojira

899 posts

123 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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warch said:
It depends on the model's position within the range. If the car is much cheaper to make (the old one was horrendously expensive to make) then it could be fairly cheap.


Why are people always sticking the boot in Land Rover for what their cars cost? No one else comes in for this sort of stick.
A lot of people on here seem to have the boot in for anything vaguely British... rolleyes

Tom_Spotley_When

496 posts

157 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Jon_S_Rally said:
300bhp/ton said:
Interesting video about the new Defender here:
https://youtu.be/Y3kK04fvDRQ
God I bet that bloke would make a thrilling dinner party guest...
He's right and knows everything, everyone else is wrong.

All that stuff about 17" wheels and don't make an SUV otherwise I won't buy one. Sure JLR are concerned.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Tom_Spotley_When said:
He's right and knows everything, everyone else is wrong.

All that stuff about 17" wheels and don't make an SUV otherwise I won't buy one. Sure JLR are concerned.
I'm not saying he will have any influence, but he is fairly well known in the off road and overlanding world. And became popular enough that BFG Tires employ him as an ambassador for their products.


AC123

1,116 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Shakermaker said:
£40k isn't as much money as it used to be, though

Same price as a top spec Skoda Kodiaq, Hyundai Sante Fe etc. These are brands you'd never dream of having £40k cars a decade ago, maybe even 5 years ago.. but now they exist, LR can slot in there as well
True - pickups are significantly cheaper though. Our last Navara was about £21k new

BFleming

3,605 posts

143 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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DonkeyApple said:
Bloody dangerous trying to drive the Ring with that massive sticker across the windscreen. Crazy.
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NJJ

434 posts

80 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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I think new Defender will sell very well and if it offers MINI levels of customisation even better. I think LR dropped the ball with Disco 5 as it somehow offered everything people wanted but in a package that not many people seem to like. If new Defender can offer 7 seats in a big boxy shape it will be the one to buy for that particular market. I'm looking forward to its release.

warch

2,941 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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AC123 said:
Pickups are significantly cheaper though. Our last Navara was about £21k new
The top model is slightly under 35k on the road, but that's pretty well specced. I know because there was a lovely example of one in the showroom when mrs warch went and got her Qashqai.


TBH no one knows what a new Defender will cost, the 2016 main market ones cost between 23 and 35 grand.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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This is the equivalent of seeing Ferrari test their next mid-engined V8 supercar halfway up a mountain or fording a stream.

AC123

1,116 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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warch said:
The top model is slightly under 35k on the road, but that's pretty well specced. I know because there was a lovely example of one in the showroom when mrs warch went and got her Qashqai.


TBH no one knows what a new Defender will cost, the 2016 main market ones cost between 23 and 35 grand.
4 months ago our Tekna was £21.5 plus vat...

We still run 2 old shape defenders, a 12 and 15 plate - speaking to the dealership they have suggested £40 + vat up to £60 + vat

chickensoup

469 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Are you sure it is not just a Discovery in Camo

delays

786 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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I think this is the long-awaited Defend-R.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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warch said:
It depends on the model's position within the range. If the car is much cheaper to make (the old one was horrendously expensive to make) then it could be fairly cheap much more profitable for JLR.
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EFA!

warch

2,941 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Max_Torque said:
warch said:
It depends on the model's position within the range. If the car is much cheaper to make (the old one was horrendously expensive to make) then it could be fairly cheap much more profitable for JLR.
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EFA!
But then would you be criticising say BMW for profiteering with the prices on their cars?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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chickensoup said:
Are you sure it is not just a Discovery in Camo
or the defender is just a rebadged discovery, suv for school run.

Dazed & Confused

202 posts

204 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Jon_S_Rally said:
God I bet that bloke would make a thrilling dinner party guest...
He actually seems to do some genuinely adventurous stuff in his vehicles: https://youtu.be/GMQ6eoL_MEQ

At least he actually uses his vehicles, rather than just fawns over them like so many YouTubers.

I'm sure he'd be far more interesting than the average PHer.

Edited by Dazed & Confused on Tuesday 19th March 19:32

Mackofthejungle

1,070 posts

195 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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I don't know what to make of this still.

God knows what they're doing at the 'ring - publicity someone said... The really sad thing is if they made an agricultural car it'd sell like crazy - it's 2019, not 1950, it'd be plenty civilised enough simply because it's now, not then.

If this is a Disco Sport with a tougher chassis, higher ride height, some trick suspension and a standard Land Rover interior I just don't see why they're making it. It defeats the point for me. I sold my 90 because it was too much for a commuter car...just. A car that was basically designed 70 years ago was only just unacceptable. They didn't need to do anything spectacular, they just needed to take the original idea and transpose it to modern day. This really doesn't look like something I want.. I can only hope that it is.

Imafreeman

117 posts

224 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Does absolutely nothing for me. Looks like all the rest of the LR offerings with no prospect of fixing yourself. It'll be the new Chelsea tractor but not a work horse.
Shame.

Big GT

1,811 posts

92 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Whatever it ends up being, they will sell shed loads

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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warch said:
Max_Torque said:
warch said:
It depends on the model's position within the range. If the car is much cheaper to make (the old one was horrendously expensive to make) then it could be fairly cheap much more profitable for JLR.
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EFA!
But then would you be criticising say BMW for profiteering with the prices on their cars?
yeah, they are bloody ridiculous. I was in my local BMW dealer this arvo, and they had a 5 series in the window, with a £107,000 sticker price, and behind it, a series for £92,000! (ok, M5 competition and M3 CS, but still ridiculous prices......)

ZX10R NIN

27,598 posts

125 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Does a Defender need to be good around the Ring?