Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 14]

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CharlesdeGaulle

26,242 posts

180 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Stegel said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Integroo said:
https://www.theslshop.com/showroom/mercedes-benz-r...



A little over thread budget but what a colour, and matching hub caps, lovely.
Looks like Binky of Strela fame, although perhaps his might have been more of an apricot hue.
Lovely car and colour. IIRC he had a bit of a falling out with that seller over some work done / not done, so I doubt his would end up there if it was down to him. I do wonder what happened to him!?
tobinen said:
Yes, well remembered. He was not at all enamoured with their body work.
Both absolutely correct. And it wasn't just bodywork, he discovered deficiencies in all sort of mechanical areas too that had been missed by the eponymous 'experts'. There are at least two other specialists that I would (and did) use for mine rather than that lot.



CharlesdeGaulle

26,242 posts

180 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Stegel said:
In other convertible Mercedes news, interesting that SLKs seem to be leading the thread's "vehicles bought this month" league!
Unless he's been banned already, I'm expecting that to trigger Touring442 to rant at us all once again!

Etypephil

724 posts

78 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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tobinen said:
Gents, I am after advice from wiser heads than I as to how to approach a dilemma I have with the bodyshop which has my CL.

It's been there three months and it hasn't been started. The MoT has run out. He initially told me two weeks which I knew was optimistic so I was prepared for it to take longer. He has a good reputation. He was recommended by my uncle who runs a garage and has been using him for many years, as has my grandad before him.

The first excuse what that two of his guys, a panel beater and a sprayer, were involved in an accident so were off work and as he is a small concern it left him with himself and one other. Perfectly plausible and he called me and I believed him. Another month rolls past and then he said they still weren't back and he'd done his back in so was only working a few hours a day. Again, I believed him. He was very apologetic.

My gut feeling, misguided or otherwise, is that he's underpriced the job and doesn't want to do it. It was an eyebrow-raisingly low price.

I intend to go there this Friday unannounced and have a chat if he's there and check that the car still there. I am considering raising the issue of price in a sort of 'look, are you sure the price is correct and is that preventing you starting it. I am happy to discuss'.

Is this a 'good idea' or should I sit it out for a while longer? Thanks
A face to face discussion, make a note of everyhting discussed and agreed, better still record it with your phone, then follow up with a confirmation email.
Given his reputation, and your family history with him, perhaps none of the foregoing will be needed, but should it come to County Court action, proper records, and a clearly reasonable approach on your part will prove very helpful.

Mr Ponkerson

703 posts

92 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I have nothing productive to add (and shouldnt have a place here as I no longer have a barge), other than to say, this is my little happy place on the internet. I love seeing purchases; get green with envy at the brave pills some of you gentlemen seem to swallow; learn things about Mercedes' that I shall never need to know (but you never know...); change my mind 83 times a day about what to replace my current shed with; and although not exactly an informed or distinguished contributer - I feel welcome here.
Barge is a state of mind, not a set of wheels.

LeighW

4,392 posts

188 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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sly fox said:
Sterillium said:
A GT car rather than a barge, but this appears to me to be extremely cheap for what it is...

Sweepstake on when the first of these enters thread budget? (In fact, we should run similar sweepstakes on quite a few future barges...)


https://www.dorset-marine-auto.co.uk/used-jaguar-x...
Never seen one less than £8k and that was at a scrapyard. They do rust however in some nasty places necessitating big money fixes, and 100k service can throw up some enormous bills (trust me i know) on top of service (VVT, supercharger service, suspension bushes, auto box fluid flush and refill etc).
Many appear to be sold before that huge 100k/ 10 year service interval...


Fab cars though, looking for another one although north of this thread's budget.
Can you tell me more about the rusting on these? I assume it must be subframes or fuel tank straps or something as these are aluminium bodied? I quite fancy a non supercharged 5.0 XK (not on this thread's budget I know, although my current barge is).

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Mr Ponkerson said:
...Barge is a state of mind, not a set of wheels.
Should be added as a sub title smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Stegel said:
In other convertible Mercedes news, interesting that SLKs seem to be leading the thread's "vehicles bought this month" league!
Unless he's been banned already, I'm expecting that to trigger Touring442 to rant at us all once again!
The tinker odessey began in earnest on mine today. Booked in for a service/once over, brake fluid refresh. Spent £100 at Euro Car Parts on front disks/pads and rear pads.

Took my 6 year old son down to pick them up, top down, he couldn't stop smiling (he loves this far more than new BMWs and the like he's used to seeing me get).

Think the roving temp guage is a 'they all do that, sir' thing on supercharged M111s, at least.

Hopefully it's not too rotten underneath (MOT history says it shouldn't be).

Stegel

1,953 posts

174 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Stegel said:
In other convertible Mercedes news, interesting that SLKs seem to be leading the thread's "vehicles bought this month" league!
Unless he's been banned already, I'm expecting that to trigger Touring442 to rant at us all once again!
The possibility of that rather motivated my observation!

Apropos high--mileage V6 diesel Mercedes discussion, we have just returned from a holiday in Croatia (home of a massive number of 201 and 124 Mercedes still seemingly in daily service) which included a ride in a W211 280CDI which had 420k KM on the clock. As I was sans wife and daughters, on the way to collect an uninspiring Insignia estate hire car, I felt able to enquire as to its mechanical health - the driver had it serviced religiously to schedule, but the only repairs had been a couple of solenoids in the 7G gear box. It felt as solid and unworn as our 140k mile S211. Bodes well for the 212 discussion earlier.

E65Ross

35,051 posts

212 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Mr Ponkerson said:
......(and shouldnt have a place here as I no longer have a barge).......

......Barge is a state of mind, not a set of wheels......
eh? hehe Do you still have a car?

phil_cardiff

7,067 posts

208 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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E65Ross said:
Mr Ponkerson said:
......(and shouldnt have a place here as I no longer have a barge).......

......Barge is a state of mind, not a set of wheels......
eh? hehe Do you still have a car?
Said he had a shed?

Mr Ponkerson

703 posts

92 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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phil_cardiff said:
E65Ross said:
Mr Ponkerson said:
......(and shouldnt have a place here as I no longer have a barge).......

......Barge is a state of mind, not a set of wheels......
eh? hehe Do you still have a car?
Said he had a shed?
getmecoat

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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6l W12 for 4k?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



LPG converted, 'works daily as a Taxi' (since when was that a selling point?!), dodgy matte black wrap and 'minor faults'...:

faults - Electrics Passenger side faults (Passenger Seat does not move, Rear Heated Screen only half, Passenger side rear windown blind inoperable Brakes: Parking brake, ABS, Anti Skid not working, Brake Pad warning Light on (although Rear pads new (June 2019). Rear Light Red cover smashed off (Light works OK), Headlights not original, not Directional. Wheels all scuffed. Misfire on STAG LPG Gas System. Had new in last 12 months - Suspension Compressor, Suspension Air Bag, Alternator, Battery, work on Coolant System inc new Header Tank, Air Con System pipework, Flexi Hose on Powerflow Exhaust system replaced, rear wheel bearing, suspension arms. Has iphone AUX cable. Works daily as a Taxi. STAG LPG System fitted, Wrapped in Matt Grey. Next MOT due 17/03/2020, No service history, Grey, 5+ owners, £4,000


Would need balls of titanium for that one! Saying that, it did manage 13k miles last year ...

Mark-C

5,063 posts

205 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Integroo said:
6l W12 for 4k?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



LPG converted, 'works daily as a Taxi' (since when was that a selling point?!), dodgy matte black wrap and 'minor faults'...:

faults - Electrics Passenger side faults (Passenger Seat does not move, Rear Heated Screen only half, Passenger side rear windown blind inoperable Brakes: Parking brake, ABS, Anti Skid not working, Brake Pad warning Light on (although Rear pads new (June 2019). Rear Light Red cover smashed off (Light works OK), Headlights not original, not Directional. Wheels all scuffed. Misfire on STAG LPG Gas System. Had new in last 12 months - Suspension Compressor, Suspension Air Bag, Alternator, Battery, work on Coolant System inc new Header Tank, Air Con System pipework, Flexi Hose on Powerflow Exhaust system replaced, rear wheel bearing, suspension arms. Has iphone AUX cable. Works daily as a Taxi. STAG LPG System fitted, Wrapped in Matt Grey. Next MOT due 17/03/2020, No service history, Grey, 5+ owners, £4,000


Would need balls of titanium for that one! Saying that, it did manage 13k miles last year ...
Seemingly very honest with the faults but they sound costly enough to fix to write off a 13 year old W12 engined Audi!

Still at least it has an iPhone Aux cable :-)

I'm going to look at some photos I took a while back - wondering if this is the same one (made the thread too) being punted out of a Shipley garage a while back.

TurboHatchback

4,159 posts

153 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Mark-C said:
Integroo said:
6l W12 for 4k?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



LPG converted, 'works daily as a Taxi' (since when was that a selling point?!), dodgy matte black wrap and 'minor faults'...:

faults - Electrics Passenger side faults (Passenger Seat does not move, Rear Heated Screen only half, Passenger side rear windown blind inoperable Brakes: Parking brake, ABS, Anti Skid not working, Brake Pad warning Light on (although Rear pads new (June 2019). Rear Light Red cover smashed off (Light works OK), Headlights not original, not Directional. Wheels all scuffed. Misfire on STAG LPG Gas System. Had new in last 12 months - Suspension Compressor, Suspension Air Bag, Alternator, Battery, work on Coolant System inc new Header Tank, Air Con System pipework, Flexi Hose on Powerflow Exhaust system replaced, rear wheel bearing, suspension arms. Has iphone AUX cable. Works daily as a Taxi. STAG LPG System fitted, Wrapped in Matt Grey. Next MOT due 17/03/2020, No service history, Grey, 5+ owners, £4,000


Would need balls of titanium for that one! Saying that, it did manage 13k miles last year ...
Seemingly very honest with the faults but they sound costly enough to fix to write off a 13 year old W12 engined Audi!

Still at least it has an iPhone Aux cable :-)

I'm going to look at some photos I took a while back - wondering if this is the same one (made the thread too) being punted out of a Shipley garage a while back.
I saw that yesterday, it sounds like an absolute nail. I think these look like awesome cars (and you can pretend to be Jason Statham) but I'd run a mile from this one, good only for breaking.

phil_cardiff

7,067 posts

208 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Mr Ponkerson said:
phil_cardiff said:
E65Ross said:
Mr Ponkerson said:
......(and shouldnt have a place here as I no longer have a barge).......

......Barge is a state of mind, not a set of wheels......
eh? hehe Do you still have a car?
Said he had a shed?
getmecoat
I'm shedding, so to speak, at the moment. The bodywork has been banged more times than a garden gate in a hurricane but it's reliable, economical and the interior is in decent nick.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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phil_cardiff said:
I'm shedding, so to speak, at the moment. The bodywork has been banged more times than a garden gate in a hurricane but it's reliable, economical and the interior is in decent nick.
That's a very polite metaphor for how many times something has been banged.

laugh

Mr Ponkerson

703 posts

92 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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phil_cardiff said:
I'm shedding, so to speak, at the moment. The bodywork has been banged more times than a garden gate in a hurricane but it's reliable, economical and the interior is in decent nick.
Sounds like mine - steering and gearbox showing signs of age, but interior is incresibly clean. Im actually really enjoying driving it.

Rubins4

780 posts

125 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Jaffers said:
Rubins4 said:
Jaffers said:
Rubins4 said:
This list of advisories is especially eyebrow-raising, as P38’s were galvanised.
As far as I remember the bodywork is mostly aluminium like the RR Classic and Landy/Defender, and the chassis is steel, but not galvanised from the factory.
I don’t believe this to be true.

I’ll accept the chassis might be ungalvanised steel but I’m relatively sure the bodies are galvanised steel.
Turns out we are both right; Front wings, doors and tailgate outer-body panels are aluminum alloy. The rest of the body is double-sided galvanized steel.
Thanks for the clarification, I should have done so myself but job offers, overseas stag-do’s and miscarriages have got in the way :s Why they didn’t galv the whole lot I don’t know.

That Audi’s an absolute shed.

E65Ross

35,051 posts

212 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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phil_cardiff said:
Mr Ponkerson said:
phil_cardiff said:
E65Ross said:
Mr Ponkerson said:
......(and shouldnt have a place here as I no longer have a barge).......

......Barge is a state of mind, not a set of wheels......
eh? hehe Do you still have a car?
Said he had a shed?
getmecoat
I'm shedding, so to speak, at the moment. The bodywork has been banged more times than a garden gate in a hurricane but it's reliable, economical and the interior is in decent nick.
What car is it? I'm shedding....I'm quite enjoying it, sort of. I don't like the car but the hassle-free nature is great. I am still very much a barge-lover....and despite the discussion earlier about it being a frame of mind....I don't think a Toyota Corolla is a barge....

SLog3

717 posts

199 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Practical estate
Not too old
Good performance
Good fuel consumption
Low tax

BUT that's a dull interior! I'd fall asleep in the M25 jams

Edit - just checked the MOT history - it ran out last November and has just had a fail. Come back in a few days when the dealer's fixed it.

Edited by SLog3 on Monday 19th August 19:48

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