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[CharlesdeGaulle]

SpeckledJim said:

I honestly don't see the problem with this sort of thing.

If the seller is up-front about their attitude, the car is cheap, and you're happy to take responsibility for whatever is wrong with it, then buy it.

If not, then don't.



It's if the seller wants to pretend they're Mr Customer Service before the sale before turning into Mr Hyde afterwards that's more of a potential problem.

Thread no-no of successive posts but I'm catching-up after a few days in an even more exotic location within the Kabul environs.

I'm with the Speckled one; you often see folk grumbling here or on the dealer threads that they are not able to buy the cheap trade-ins because there's too much risk for the seller. The open 'no returns' approach at least avoids that and trusts the buyer to take responsibility for their actions in exchange for a bargain.

[E65Ross]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Car looks OK to me, but I defy anyone to accurately describe the seat colour:

Morgue occupant grey

[Sterillium]

When was the last time anyone saw a W12 Phaeton for sale?

[CharlesdeGaulle]

E65Ross said:

I'm still torn as to what car to save up for

I would kinda want something at least as refined and, if possible, as quick as the 745i was.....but the Lexus LS430 is probably as refined but not as quick ...

E65Ross. Your dilemma is a nice one to have. You may recall that I have an LS 430 and I'd observe that the refinement is indeed good but that I'm not sure you'd ever regard it as (relatively) slow compared to what you had before. Most of the thread cars will do 150 mph but the reality is that our roads and traffic render that virtually impossible regardless of legal considerations.

We've remarked many times here that a big Lexus is not a sports car and that a more gentlemanly cruise is what they excel at. However, they can shift if you want them to and there is amusement to be had in making the otherwise almost silent car howl as you properly welly it. Might it be too dull for you? Only you can answer that, but I'd recommend giving one a try, and they excite through the medium of competence * rather than leaving rubber on the road.

* Hashtagpretentiousnobber

[BigBen]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

E65Ross said:

I'm still torn as to what car to save up for

I would kinda want something at least as refined and, if possible, as quick as the 745i was.....but the Lexus LS430 is probably as refined but not as quick ...

E65Ross. Your dilemma is a nice one to have. You may recall that I have an LS 430 and I'd observe that the refinement is indeed good but that I'm not sure you'd ever regard it as (relatively) slow compared to what you had before. Most of the thread cars will do 150 mph but the reality is that our roads and traffic render that virtually impossible regardless of legal considerations.

We've remarked many times here that a big Lexus is not a sports car and that a more gentlemanly cruise is what they excel at. However, they can shift if you want them to and there is amusement to be had in making the otherwise almost silent car howl as you properly welly it. Might it be too dull for you? Only you can answer that, but I'd recommend giving one a try, and they excite through the medium of competence * rather than leaving rubber on the road.

* Hashtagpretentiousnobber

Plus having a Corolla he will be used to all the switch gear.

[tog]

Sterillium said:

When was the last time anyone saw a W12 Phaeton for sale?

Friend of mine is looking for one - let me know if you see one! How many RHD were there?

[RicksAlfas]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Car looks OK to me, but I defy anyone to accurately describe the seat colour:

Le pantalon du fermier.

[longblackcoat]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Car looks OK to me, but I defy anyone to accurately describe the seat colour:

John Major slip-on grey?

Elephant's ears grey?

Visage fade-to grey?

[W00DY]

Sterillium said:

When was the last time anyone saw a W12 Phaeton for sale?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/vw-phaeton-w1...

Few niggles though.

[SpeckledJim]

W00DY said:

Sterillium said:

When was the last time anyone saw a W12 Phaeton for sale?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/vw-phaeton-w1...

Few niggles though.

Non-runner.

You'd have to be otherwise seriously considering throwing your £2.5k in the canal to be ready to spend £2.5k on this.

[21st Century Man]

An ECU would appear to be between £200 and £500 used. That's an easy cheap fix. So it can't be just that?

[W00DY]

SpeckledJim said:

W00DY said:

Sterillium said:

When was the last time anyone saw a W12 Phaeton for sale?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/vw-phaeton-w1...

Few niggles though.

Non-runner.

You'd have to be otherwise seriously considering throwing your £2.5k in the canal to be ready to spend £2.5k on this.

Probably just a fuse or something. I heard if you do need an ECU it's just two VR6 Golf ones glued together.

[Bonefish Blues]

E65Ross said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Car looks OK to me, but I defy anyone to accurately describe the seat colour:

Morgue occupant grey

I believe it was listed as Rigor Mortis in the 2005 brochure. It was dropped for 2006 after the unfortunate incident where a pensioner died in the drivers seat and wasn't noticed for 3 weeks.

[vo175]

vo175 said:

Hi all, I'm new here and wanted to seek your informed opinion.

I am looking for a barge-y runaround on a budget. Came across this low milage Laguna V6 that seems to be a lot of car for the asking price. Thoughts?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Thanks for the comments everyone! Looks like a good deal to me and I reckon for the price I can live with the rigor mortis interior colour scheme Will see if I can have a look at this! Ta

[deeen]

E65Ross said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Car looks OK to me, but I defy anyone to accurately describe the seat colour:

Morgue occupant grey

Mushroom.

[Northbrook]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Most of the thread cars will do 150 mph

My thread car will do that. Probably.

I'm allowed to put a k before the m first, though, right?

[sparks_190e]

Northbrook said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Most of the thread cars will do 150 mph

My thread car will do that. Probably.

I'm allowed to put a k before the m first, though, right?

Mine absolutely won't do that

[Sterillium]

Whilst we are sharing our communal knowledge about greyish interiors, please can I ask the hive mind two Jaguar related questions?

Firstly, what colour interior trim is this? (I think it looks a bit dull, if it's accurately represented)

And what is the type and finish of these alloys? (I think they look superb, as if they are slightly tinted)

[SpeckledJim]

I think the interior is Ivory? Top-roll something like charcoal or porpoise?

And the wheels are original, but have been refurbished in a non-standard colour, IMO
ETA the way the seat structure is showing through the drivers seat leather is very disappointing indeed.

Never seen that before on one of these. 30 stone PO?

Wheel finish - BMW did something called shadow chrome - might be that?

Edited by SpeckledJim on Friday 18th October 20:10

Edited by SpeckledJim on Friday 18th October 20:11

[CharlesdeGaulle]

sparks_190e said:

Northbrook said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Most of the thread cars will do 150 mph

My thread car will do that. Probably.

I'm allowed to put a k before the m first, though, right?

Mine absolutely won't do that

To be clear, I'm talking about the typical thread-worthy multi-cylindered, petrol, auto, dead-cow or (even better) brushed-nylon-trimmed barges, not every car the thread's posters own!