RE: BMW X7 M50d: Driven

[Hairymonster]

MitchT said:

GTEYE said:

This behemoth will be too large for UK car parks, B roads etc...

I doubt that will cause an issue the the types that are likely to buy these things... "plenty of room for me as long as the wretched peasant coming the other way throws themself into the ditch"... so not unlike the attitude of those who drive the current crop of "premium" SUVs. Which brings me conveniently onto...

Max_Torque said:

The only thing more awful than this car is going to be the sort of person who buys it...........

+1

[houlbt]

As has been said the look of this thing really is horrendous.... I spotted one for the first time as it passed me on the motorway the other week and thought (from the rear) is looked like it had a lot of road presence - and then I saw that front grille - shoot me now, what an abomination. I don't care how good it is I just can't get past the front end on this car.

[Motorsport3]

What a dinosaur!

[MagicMonkey]

“Hello sir, welcome to BMW London, how may I help you today?”
“Hi, I’d like to buy a brand new X7 but, before I do I’d better check out the comments section on PistonHeads to make sure it’s okay”
“Is everything alright sir?”
“Yeah, it’s just a bunch of poor jealous people acting salty because they’ve never experienced anything luxurious before.”

[nickfrog]

MagicMonkey said:

“Yeah, it’s just a bunch of poor jealous people acting salty because they’ve never experienced anything luxurious before.”

How very true. I think it's OK to not like a car or even an entire segment but arbitrarily pigeon holing an entire demographic based on what car they prefer is somewhat weird, at best.

[tedman]

MagicMonkey said:

“Hello sir, welcome to BMW London, how may I help you today?”
“Hi, I’d like to buy a brand new X7 but, before I do I’d better check out the comments section on PistonHeads to make sure it’s okay”
“Is everything alright sir?”
“Yeah, it’s just a bunch of poor jealous people acting salty because they’ve never experienced anything luxurious before.”

So you're saying that if you cannot afford it, you are not allowed an opinion on it?

For the money though, the Mercedes and Audi equivalents are much less hideous.

[Water Fairy]

MagicMonkey said:

“Hello sir, welcome to BMW London, how may I help you today?”
“Hi, I’d like to buy a brand new X7 but, before I do I’d better check out the comments section on PistonHeads to make sure it’s okay”
“Is everything alright sir?”
“Yeah, it’s just a bunch of poor jealous people acting salty because they’ve never experienced anything luxurious before.”

I've heard some cobblers on here before but this takes the biscuit

[aeropilot]

bluemason said:

Sixpackpert said:

Not much choice colour wise, Black, 2 shades of White and Sunstone. That's it!

Just built one...M50d most options ticked. 105k

Edited by Sixpackpert on Saturday 13th April 15:58

I should be able to get a bright yellow one since I expect bmw flagship cars to have an individual color spec option.

Its not built in a BMW factory that is configured for the full Individual build options....................(yet)

[Superflow]

nickfrog said:

How very true. I think it's OK to not like a car or even an entire segment but arbitrarily pigeon holing an entire demographic based on what car they prefer is somewhat weird, at best.

The thing is though Nick it is too often true that these things are driven by aggressive unpleasant types ,I will give everyone the benefit of doubt until proven wrong.I know four men who drive an X5 one is okay but still has an edge to him and the other three are jumped up little prats who have issues so for me the stereotype has validity.

If you don't experience these types of individuals in modern Britain then maybe they are too close to you to see.Personally I'm indifferent as SUV's are not for me.

[Shakermaker]

One of my neighbours works for Rolls-Royce down at their HQ, and semi-regularly comes home in a Dawn, Phantom and even once a Cullinan, instead of his usual daily driver of a Peugeot Partner van.

This weekend, he's come back in an X7

"Imposing" is the word I would use. There really is no other way to describe it when you see it from the driving seat, in your rear view mirror.

I don't dislike it... I'm the kind of bellend that would buy one though

[Burwood]

Maybe the GLS will look better. The 6 seat lounge set up on either car would be pretty sweet. My issue is the local roads can’t handle a car like this. Far to narrow. Im Always overtaking and couldn’t In this lol

[nickfrog]

Superflow said:

If you don't experience these types of individuals in modern Britain then maybe they are too close to you to see.Personally I'm indifferent as SUV's are not for me.

I don't believe they particularly attract idiots compared to any other car types , whether they are close to me or not. I do believe they attract envy/jealousy from those who perceive anything expensive as an insult to them hence the regular and arbitrary green eye type attack on the drivers, not just the car itself. Those simply can't accept that some have more material resources than them and the only explanation has to be that they are idiots, or drug dealers or rich arabs or blonde mums on the school run [insert your own worn out cliche]. I am not a fan of big SUVS either but I am a big fan of openmindedness and choice. I appreciate I am not in the vocal minority of chip on shoulder type who never have anything positive to say though.

[HardtopManual]

[sjg]

To be fair a Tesla Model X is wider, and lots of the full size SUVs are around the 1990mm mark.



The X7, like all of these sorts of things, are bloody appalling cars for terrible people.

[DonkeyApple]

JIMMYJ4ZZ said:

Currently cross shopping one of these with a FFRR to replace the c63 estate. Yes they look stupid, but there are limited options out there if you want comfortable seats, lots of space, a supple ride and smooth power delivery without a load of exhaust noise and company director focussed addenda. (Basically the opposite of what I have now).

There were a few of these on the A44 around Woodstock the other day. Surprisingly they didn’t look as big as a Rangie. They are weird looking wagons on the outside, no elegance, style or sophistication. However, the pictures of the interior do look like it’s a nice place to sit.

[greghm]

I will pass

[Superflow]

nickfrog said:

I don't believe they particularly attract idiots compared to any other car types , whether they are close to me or not. I do believe they attract envy/jealousy from those who perceive anything expensive as an insult to them hence the regular and arbitrary green eye type attack on the drivers, not just the car itself. Those simply can't accept that some have more material resources than them and the only explanation has to be that they are idiots, or drug dealers or rich arabs or blonde mums on the school run [insert your own worn out cliche]. I am not a fan of big SUVS either but I am a big fan of openmindedness and choice. I appreciate I am not in the vocal minority of chip on shoulder type who never have anything positive to say though.

I believe you are in the minority certainly reading the replies here. To say anyone who criticises this car is envious is both simplistic and ridiculous in equal measure,in reality people don't care they have other concerns in life ,and it is a BMW so they would be setting their sights pretty low I think.

The issue with modern design is it is too brutish,where has the style ,finesse and softer edges gone? lost in a sea of vulgarity and aggression.

The Germans absolutely understand their target market.

[nickfrog]

Superflow said:

I believe you are in the minority certainly reading the replies here. To say anyone who criticises this car is envious is both simplistic and ridiculous in equal measure

It would be but I didn't make an absolute statement (or perhaps you could point out where I did?). I don't make sweeping statements about entire groups of people (unlike the "terrible people" thing)

Superflow said:

The issue with modern design is it is too brutish,where has the style ,finesse and softer edges gone? lost in a sea of vulgarity and aggression.

The Germans absolutely understand their target market.

Appreciating design is entirely subjective I would have thought. One man's brutish is another man's soft edge.

"The Germans" : another sweeping statement I'm afraid

[Superflow]

nickfrog said:

Appreciating design is entirely subjective I would have thought. One man's brutish is another man's soft edge.

"The Germans" : another sweeping statement I'm afraid

That was a general comment on people being envious, however you did actually say it in your post 22.56 yesterday.

You cannot ignore others opinions because they offend you Nick the stereotype exists for a reason.

For the record I have nothing against Germans and admire them for several reasons.

[nickfrog]

Superflow said:

That was a general comment on people being envious, however you did actually say it in your post 22.56 yesterday.

I didn't say "anyone who criticises this car is envious" as you seem to think:

nickfrog said:

I don't believe they particularly attract idiots compared to any other car types , whether they are close to me or not. I do believe they attract envy/jealousy from those who perceive anything expensive as an insult to them hence the regular and arbitrary green eye type attack on the drivers, not just the car itself. Those simply can't accept that some have more material resources than them and the only explanation has to be that they are idiots, or drug dealers or rich arabs or blonde mums on the school run [insert your own worn out cliche]. I am not a fan of big SUVS either but I am a big fan of openmindedness and choice. I appreciate I am not in the vocal minority of chip on shoulder type who never have anything positive to say though.

Superflow said:

You cannot ignore others opinions because they offend you Nick the stereotype exists for a reason.

I don't and they don't. I agree the stereotype exists for a reason, usually lack of critical thinking and presence of prejudice. A good definition of "stereotype" : "a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing".

Superflow said:

For the record I have nothing against Germans and admire them for several reasons.

I never said you had anything against Germans either.

Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 16th April 12:25