RE: Production-ready Aston Martin Rapide E revealed

RE: Production-ready Aston Martin Rapide E revealed

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Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Cold said:
RobDickinson said:
Tesla have delivered 35k model 3s.
And still haven't made a profit.
Apart from the last 2 quarters..
50 cents isn't a lot of money.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Cold said:
RobDickinson said:
Cold said:
RobDickinson said:
Tesla have delivered 35k model 3s.
And still haven't made a profit.
Apart from the last 2 quarters..
50 cents isn't a lot of money.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47399618

Publishing its first results since it went public in October the firm reported a pre-tax loss of £68m, compared with profits of £85m in 2017.

Shares in the firm fell by 18%

Tesla made more profit last quarter than aston did in 2017

Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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I think your Tesla underpants are too tight.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Bullst pisses me off.

Esp on a thread about a car that on every metric sucks vs a 2012 Tesla, from a company that historically has barely ever made a profit.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Ahh the Tesla brigade are out, made a profit in 1 or 2 Q, how does that offset the 7 years of billions in losses, take off the Elon tinted glasses.

Great car from AM, for those too stupid to understand it is clearly an opportunity to shoehorn some of their developmental technology into an already existing platform in order to generate data / figures / real world results to get things right first time in the new Lagonda.

There is more plastic / plether in a Model S than my old MG, what a horrid place to sit for 100k+, it is nowhere near a 7 series / S class, more on par with a 3 series at x3 the price.


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
Ahh the Tesla brigade are out, made a profit in 1 or 2 Q, how does that offset the 7 years of billions in losses, take off the Elon tinted glasses.

Great car from AM, for those too stupid to understand it is clearly an opportunity to shoehorn some of their developmental technology into an already existing platform in order to generate data / figures / real world results to get things right first time in the new Lagonda.

There is more plastic / plether in a Model S than my old MG, what a horrid place to sit for 100k+, it is nowhere near a 7 series / S class, more on par with a 3 series at x3 the price.
I think you missed most of my posts in the thread, you know the ones where I said I liked it etc.



Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Oh God, as soon as I read this: "Of course, because the Rapide was not designed as an EV from the get go," I switched off completely. I've just spent the last week on a course with a US instructor who kept saying 'oftentimes' as well as the above. Drove me absolutely insane.

Apologies for my comment having bugger all to do with car which is jolly nice indeed.

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
for those too stupid to understand
This is the bit I don't understand.. Why stoop to insults? There are valid points on both sides. Tesla (which I personally am no fan of) have taken on a huge undertaking, taking on the historical car players and getting a serious head start on them with EV's.

Aston Martin have produced some belting cars but it's fair to ask the question on a seemingly dated platform with less capability than the Tesla for vastly greater money, for only a few. May be right, may be wrong, but there are questions to be asked..

V8 FOU

2,971 posts

147 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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St Albans? So no Gaydon references, then......

On board AC charger? Generator? Hybrid? I'll get me coat......

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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RobDickinson said:
Lord.Vader said:
Ahh the Tesla brigade are out, made a profit in 1 or 2 Q, how does that offset the 7 years of billions in losses, take off the Elon tinted glasses.

Great car from AM, for those too stupid to understand it is clearly an opportunity to shoehorn some of their developmental technology into an already existing platform in order to generate data / figures / real world results to get things right first time in the new Lagonda.

There is more plastic / plether in a Model S than my old MG, what a horrid place to sit for 100k+, it is nowhere near a 7 series / S class, more on par with a 3 series at x3 the price.
I think you missed most of my posts in the thread, you know the ones where I said I liked it etc.
I didn't mention you, did i?

Fire99 said:
Lord.Vader said:
for those too stupid to understand
This is the bit I don't understand.. Why stoop to insults? There are valid points on both sides. Tesla (which I personally am no fan of) have taken on a huge undertaking, taking on the historical car players and getting a serious head start on them with EV's.

Aston Martin have produced some belting cars but it's fair to ask the question on a seemingly dated platform with less capability than the Tesla for vastly greater money, for only a few. May be right, may be wrong, but there are questions to be asked..
It is the same old story, why bash a manufacturer for doing something different, EVs are the future that is obvious but heralding Tesla like they were the first company to think about an EV is ridiculous and they have hardly brought cheap EVs to the masses ... yet. Once they ramp up and produce at a sustainable rate with no issues then yes thy become a credible force, but today their paltry production rates (and more importantly the industrial system to support) are not proven.

What price do you put on a brand, or value? a 1960's Ferrari demands a greater price, for older tech, less power, limited usability, etc, etc, yet people spend millions to own one of 10 / 20 / 30, there is no link between rational and price!

Look at Airbus / Boeing, why re-engine their existing airframe rather than develop a new one, cheaper, quicker, data for future developments, increases efficiency today, a new product for the market, etc, etc.



SydneySE

406 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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sgtBerbatov said:
Difference between Tesla and Aston Martin though is that the windows on an Aston Martin won't freeze shut in the cold weather. Plus the Aston looks so much better, and if you can afford the Aston Martin you aren't going to be driving this as your daily. This is the car to take to the golf club, or to the shops, or to drop off little Benjamin and Isabelle at school in the morning.
this is one of the funniest comments I've read for a while. If you can afford an Aston, then what's your daily? I considered a rapide when I needed to buy a four door, four seat daily car (starting a family and I hate SUVs); but since i already had a DB9 that was my daily, I bought a maserati quattroporte (also far more roomy in the back than the cramped rapide and i thought it looked beautiful too).

I think the point is when you can afford a nice car, the point is to be able to drive it.... and you can probably afford multiple nice cars. I think very few AM owners can only afford the one car...

LotusOmega375D

7,599 posts

153 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I guess the car chases in the next Bond film will be much shorter than we're used to.