RE: Diesel duo confirmed for Audi S5

RE: Diesel duo confirmed for Audi S5

Wednesday 1st May 2019

Diesel V6 confirmed for Audi S4: Update!

Ingolstadt completes the set as S4 gains the same 347hp mild-hybrid unit as its S-badge siblings



UPDATE - 01.05.2019

No prizes for guessing that this was in the wind. A month ago, the return of diesel to the S6 and 7 seemed unlikely at best - now, the arrival of Audi's latest oil burning 3.0-litre V6 in the S4 was all but inevitable. So much so that - for now at least - Ingolstadt hasn't even concerned itself with an official press release announcing the fact. Rather the model has appeared on the manufacturer's media website with only a sparse paragraph to explain that, "for the first time ever, the Audi S4 has a V6 diesel under the hood."

By now that engine hardly needs any further introduction. It's the same six-cylinder unit which has found its way into all the larger S-badged siblings, adorned with the same 48v mild-hybrid tech. The good news is that you get fully 347hp and 516lb ft of torque - far more twist than in its petrol predecessor - and the assistance of an electric compressor to deliver it. The bad news is obviously that it is diesel, but we're all going to have to live with that fact.

Still, elsewhere the model remains true to form, meaning you get Audi's quattro all-wheel drive system twinned with an eight-speed automatic, plus the choice of saloon or Avant. Both will manage 155mph, although the latter is 0.1 second slower to 62mph at 4.9 seconds. No word yet on whether or not it will be the only choice of engine in Europe, but if the recent past is anything to go by we'd be surprised if there was TFSI option left on the menu. Prices when we have them.








ORIGINAL STORY - 17.04.2019

With last week's announcement that the S6 and S7 were going (in Europe, at least) news that the S5 is following suit perhaps shouldn't be too surprising. The model is now available with an oil burner for the first time with Audi's 3.0-litre V6 TDI having found its way under the bonnet, where it produces 347hp and 516lb ft of torque between 2,500 and 3,100 rpm. Like its bigger brothers, the S5's motor is assisted an electric compressor to improve performance off the line and a 48-volt 'mild hybrid system' to increase efficiency.

The engine is apparently 19 per cent more efficient than its petrol predecessors, managing up to 45mpg, despite being able to propel the S5 from 0-62mph in 4.8 seconds - 4.9 seconds for the Sportback - and on to a limited top speed of 155mph. It also retains a "sporty sound and is very smooth" so that's good, although buyers outside Europe will be treated to the option of a sportier and smoother 3.0-litre TFSI petrol motor, producing 354hp and 370lb ft. Whichever engine is available to you, however, the S5 will come with quattro all-wheel drive and an eight-speed tiptronic transmission.


The usual array of sophisticated chassis and suspension componentry is all present and correct to ensure the ride and handling are as we've come to expect. For customers looking for more, it can be optionally supplemented with the likes of dynamic steering, electromagnetic damper control and 20-inch wheels with 265/30 tyres - 18-inch items with 245/40 tyres being standard fit. Brakes are correspondingly large and powerful, with 375mm ventilated discs on the front axle gripped by black (or optionally red) six-piston calipers.

Aesthetically the S5 doesn't take any great risks; with Audi being so secure in its design language, the new model is another example of the marque's evolution-not-revolution approach to things. The familiar shoulder line, wide Singleframe grille and LED headlights are all reminiscent of the previous model - and the one before that.


An interior that one-ups its rivals is another Audi calling card, and the S5 looks set to continue the tradition. Sport seats with an embossed S logo are standard, with quilting and a massage function optionally available, there are swathes of black leather and Alcantara, a sport leather steering wheel with multifunction plus and stainless steel pedals and footrest. Audi's class-leading virtual cockpit is available for the 12.3-inch display while an optional head-up display completes the driver-focussed tech.

It may sound like quite a lot of the S5's appeal rests in optional add-ons, then, but it a fair amount of kit that isn't standard to the regular A5 is included in the price. The LED headlights with dynamic turn signals, S sport suspension, 18-inch wheels, power-adjustable, heated Alcantara sport seats and contoured bumpers represent over €7,000 (£6,000) worth of upgrades alone. If all that appeals then the Audi S5 and S5 Sportback with TDI engines will be available on the European market from May this year, with pricing starting in Germany at €65,300 euros (£56,560) and UK prices yet to be confirmed. If it doesn't, then petrol V6 cars can be found in the PH classifieds for over £15,000 as for a decent example like this one, and even a mighty RS5 like this could be within budget for the same price as the newer S model... Where would your money go?









 

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simonbamg

Original Poster:

767 posts

123 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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good news, like the new wheels as well

downhillmalins

149 posts

146 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Not many nails left to hammer in to the Audi S coffin, just the S3 to put to sleep now!

Shiv_P

2,736 posts

105 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I wasn't expecting to see this diesel with the S5 as well. No doubt it will move into the S4. I see more S4/S5 than RS4/RS5 but not the same with S6/S7

Ultrafunkula

997 posts

105 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Puts clear water between the S and the RS, anyway.

Andy83n

376 posts

62 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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That interior, with its stick on 'iPad' is dated already.

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Andy83n said:
That interior, with its stick on 'iPad' is dated already.
One cliché too many ..... redcard

PaulJC84

924 posts

217 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Looks nice but cant see this diesel engines move as likely to increase sales but maybe I am wrong.

Strange the SQ5 going from diesel to petrol and the car S models moving to diesel.

alec.e

2,149 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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While visually it looks great, putting a diesel in a proper S car these days seems like madness. I guess they are trying to attract high millege company drivers, not petrolheads.

I really hope Mercedes don't follow, it will be a sad day when the new proper AMG is diesel (NOT AMG line).

9k rpm

519 posts

210 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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PaulJC84 said:
Looks nice but cant see this diesel engines move as likely to increase sales but maybe I am wrong.

Strange the SQ5 going from diesel to petrol and the car S models moving to diesel.
Diesel SQ5 coming too with same engine as S5.

wab172uk

2,005 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Ultrafunkula said:
Puts clear water between the S and the RS, anyway.
Which is a shame, as I think the S cars are better than the RS cars. Almost as quick in the real world, but a chunk less money to buy. Better mpg, and less likely to get nicked.

legless

1,689 posts

140 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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A real shame.

I had a B9 S4 with the EA839 V6 and it was a great engine that suited the car perfectly. This doesn't hold much more appeal to me than the 'cooking' 3.0 TDI.

Sure, it'll be quick, but there will be no enjoyment to be had in holding it out to the redline.

RSbandit

2,597 posts

132 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I remember having the original S5 10 yrs ago with its lovely V8 engine, a diesel engine in this just doesn't seem right...its supposed to be a sporty coupe after all.

cookie1600

2,109 posts

161 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Have we got to 3 cyl petrol range extender / hybrid level yet???

Andy83n

376 posts

62 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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GranCab said:
One cliché too many ..... redcard
eh? Cliche?

Looks st and outdated.

Leon R

3,206 posts

96 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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wab172uk said:
Ultrafunkula said:
Puts clear water between the S and the RS, anyway.
Which is a shame, as I think the S cars are better than the RS cars. Almost as quick in the real world, but a chunk less money to buy. Better mpg, and less likely to get nicked.
Will any of those qualities be lost?

E65Ross

35,048 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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wab172uk said:
Ultrafunkula said:
Puts clear water between the S and the RS, anyway.
Which is a shame, as I think the S cars are better than the RS cars. Almost as quick in the real world, but a chunk less money to buy. Better mpg, and less likely to get nicked.
Totally disagree with this. I've driven the original V8 S5 and a B7 RS4, the RS4 was leagues better.

cobra kid

4,935 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Andy83n said:
eh? Cliche?

Looks st and outdated.
It may do, it's just how it's described.

SD_1

7,260 posts

158 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I'd love an A4 avant with that engine in it, I'm sure it will be a very good car indeed. Not convinced about it being an "S" car though, why not just make it the top of the range A4?

Gio G

2,945 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I am sure someone mentioned this on here some weeks ago.. All those V6 diesel engines Porsche have decided not to use, seem to be re-purposed into the group for the S cars.... I believe an S car should be petrol, however looking at the torque figure 700Nm it will have some serious low end thrust..

G

ChezzaV8

91 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I very nearly bought a second hand S5 sportback (2018) about a month ago as with a little one on the way our TTS isn't practical enough. I had taken an A5 sportback for a test drive the day before, (252bhp s tronic) and was actually really impressed. I then took the S5 out and was actually pretty dissappointed. It's got a god awful tiptronic gearbox instead of a dual clutch and it totally ruined the car. For the amount extra the S5 cost, it wasn't worth it and the gearbox ruined the lovely V6. I went for the A5 instead.

I can't see how a diesel automatic can be considered as a sports variant. Not only will it have that awful gearbox, but now you'll now have to put up with a horrible engine to go with it.