RE: BMW Z4 M40i vs. Porsche Boxster GTS

RE: BMW Z4 M40i vs. Porsche Boxster GTS

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Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Big GT said:
Z4

However I would never justify paying this amount of money on these cars. Because;
...but if we all follow your frugal advice, how will there ever be any cheap cars for you in the future?

Let's face it, without a healthy market for new cars, driven by those who are willing and able to pay the price of ownership, the second hand market is sunk without a trace?

E65Ross

35,069 posts

212 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Big GT said:
Z4

However I would never justify paying this amount of money on these cars. Because;

1) 6month ago a friend purchased a tidy 2003 2.5 (sketchy history) for just over £4K. Its lovely, great engine, solid and is a joy to drive.
I know, wow old car cheaper than new car etc etc who da thunk it.
But my point is older Z4's are great value and 2003 2.5 or 3.0 is not that different from a new one. Looks just as good, drives just as good.....
When did you drive the new Z4 or Boxster?

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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I'd save my self c£5k in one easy move - manual Cayman.

nicfaz

432 posts

230 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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nunpuncher said:
"and who wants yesterday's sports car?"

Me please. £55k will just sneak you into a 996.1 GT3.
Ha ha, seconded. Or if you are desperate for a Boxster, one of the last 6-cyl boxsters!

E65Ross

35,069 posts

212 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Dale487 said:
I'd save my self c£5k in one easy move - manual Cayman.
Kinda defeats the point of these 2 cars, which is that they have the ability to be, you know, roofless hehe

But yes, I would too. Given the choice between these 2 though, Porsche, no doubt.

stevemcs

8,664 posts

93 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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The wheel base looks all wrong on the Z4, the wheels look too big and too close together.

HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Big GT said:
1) 6month ago a friend purchased a tidy 2003 2.5 (sketchy history) for just over £4K. Its lovely, great engine, solid and is a joy to drive.
Similarly one my mates bought a Estoril Blue Z4 3.0Si about 6 months ago, a 2007/57 plate, which we just did ~600 miles around Wales with.
He paid £3200 which I think might be about the best value car purchase I've ever seen.

I do think the new Z4 looks better in the flesh that in pictures (though the headlights look oversized), but it's still pretty generic looking. It could easily be a CLK or reintroduced Honda S2000.

The Boxster is undoubtedly the better car from the driver's perspective but I couldn't live with that engine, especially not in something costing £75k.

Edited by HM-2 on Friday 19th April 09:57

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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E65Ross said:
Dale487 said:
I'd save my self c£5k in one easy move - manual Cayman.
Kinda defeats the point of these 2 cars, which is that they have the ability to be, you know, roofless hehe

But yes, I would too. Given the choice between these 2 though, Porsche, no doubt.
I was thinking sports car first not roadster plus I doubt I'd ever drive with the roof down but I get that that's the whole appeal to some.

MDMA .

8,894 posts

101 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Review says the Z4 wears PZeros. Look like Michelin Pilot Super Sports to me. The Boxster wears the PZeros. Yet in Australia, the GTS comes with Michelin PS4S as standard I think.

Sandpit Steve

10,035 posts

74 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Brian Fallon said:
I think the massive price difference here comes from adding expensive options to the Boxter that do nothing for the driving experience. The GTS requires very few options. Frankly, though, I'd take a used GTS with a 3.4 litre naturally aspirated engine over either of these cars.
Anyone with a late model 3.4 manual GTS has a lovely car that’s not going to depreciate much over the next few years. Best of the bunch.

Strider

165 posts

231 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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An exquisitely written article, Matt. The answer, though, is a 981 Boxter. For not a lot more than the price difference between the GTS and the Z4, you could have the dynamic brilliance of the Boxter with the soundtrack and responsiveness of the glorious flat six. And the interiors are marginally nicer too, if specified with extended aluminium trim and full leather. I'm writing this from the Porsche dealer where my 981 is sitting in the workshop, again. And that's the other big difference. My Z4 35iS was dull but totally reliable and the BMW dealer service department was faultless. My beautiful, low-mileage Boxter always seems to have something wrong with it and the 3-6 week wait to book it in for costly diagnostics then another 3-6 weeks wait to get it into the workshop, then another 3-6 weeks when they discover they ordered the wrong part, make it a frustrating car to own.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Jag_NE said:
The Porsche is almost 50% more expensive as tested!
Yep not exactly a fair comparison

cerb4.5lee

30,547 posts

180 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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beanoir said:
The ZF8 would put me off buying any sports car, it’s over before it started for me.
I'm in this camp too.

shiftydave

232 posts

164 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Why does this say that BMW's B58 engine is new? It's been in use since 2015.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Jag_NE said:
The Porsche is almost 50% more expensive as tested!
Yes, IMO it renders the comparison meaningless. It would have made more sense to use a base Boxster.

PH article said:
But the fact is that much of what makes the Boxster so good is found in a £45k 718
Precisely.

big_rob_sydney

3,402 posts

194 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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To me, cars like these are for driving. Not for being a pussy and worrying about what it looks like, even less for what OTHER people think it looks like.

Just drive, FFS.

Augustus Windsock

3,366 posts

155 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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£22,434 between them when options are all added
Which to me is bonkers, notwithstanding that you are now trying to compare cars with such a disparate price difference
I somehow can’t see someone who would be prepared to stump up the headline figure for the Boxster looking at the BMW, and vice versa to be honest
Personally I’d go for the BMW and a used Boxster for the other £22k for SWMBO....

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Can't decide if the Z4 is the sort of car that will age well or terribly. It doesn't look 'bad' just a bit too fussy and awkward from some angles.

The Boxster has been refined so much it looks good. Having had a quick spin in one too I'd say it's a better car than older 911s too.

It's difficult to say the Porsche is too clinical as the Z4 could be argued that as well. I would take the Z4 as a different choice.

WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Oh look another silver Porsche Boxster yawn zzzzzz
While both brands still have a flash-Harry image I'll take the BMW any day - it's so ....refreshing.
Most owners will just potter & pose in them so all the cobblers about handling etc is just irrelevant fantasy in the minds of those who think they know how to drive.

jhayward1980

117 posts

214 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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105% of the fun. 15% of the cost.