Keep being flashed!

[Monkeylegend]

When you buy a car that is as the manufacturer intended lighting wise and they are adjusted correctly, it is hardly the drivers fault if they get flashed when they are on dipped lights because oncoming drivers think they are too bright.

They is what they is, nothing you can do about it

[Funky Squirrel]

G13NVL said:

My old work place I had a scania HGV which have bright lights if you hit them at the right angle coming the other way, used to get people putting their full beams on thinking mine were, untill I actually put my full beams on with top bar spotlights the lot and the whole world turned into a white blaze of skin melting light! They soon turned their beams off...

I'm curious how court would view such actions if the dazzled oncoming driver were to loose their bearings and have a head on with your HGV.

[G13NVL]

Funky Squirrel said:

G13NVL said:

My old work place I had a scania HGV which have bright lights if you hit them at the right angle coming the other way, used to get people putting their full beams on thinking mine were, untill I actually put my full beams on with top bar spotlights the lot and the whole world turned into a white blaze of skin melting light! They soon turned their beams off...

I'm curious how court would view such actions if the dazzled oncoming driver were to loose their bearings and have a head on with your HGV.

The same as if i was blinded by their high beam flashes and crashed my HGV into them? Much safer to flash from a distance as soon as they flash so nobody is being blinded as you pass.

[Pica-Pica]

FiF said:

Just been having a read of the U.N. EVE lighting regulations

I think you mean UN-ECE

[FiF]

Pica-Pica said:

I think you mean UN-ECE

I do, failed to proof read the auto (in)correct adjustment, but my fault for not checking properly.

[blearyeyedboy]

Leptons said:

I think these people with the “clever” headlights should get someone to drive their car towards them at night and then they can make an informed decision about how fking bright they are.

Even dailying a Van I’m regularly dazzled at night by super duper 10,000,000 lumen white headlights and in 90% of cases they’re fitted to a German brand car.

Did it occur to you that those cars probably don't have adaptive lights fitted, and are just driven by tts?

Don't confuse your misplaced anger at people who don't know how to use their dipped beams with technology that works well. The VAG system isn't fool proof, but it's very good and predictable about the few times it won't work. It's also overridden easily if you need to. Like I said, I don't get flashed at because (a) the system in my car works well (b) when it won't work is easily predicted and (c) I care enough about the incoming driver to override it and fun things manually if they're needed.

If you're interested, I guess a manual "dip" is needed one time in maybe 30 cars. The trick is not to switch off your brain, and still be responsible for what you're doing while driving the vehicle.

[Gareth79]

I think the higher-end systems use the vehicle's front cameras rather than a simple light sensor? That would account for some systems working very well, and others not.

[christian-ohtc3]

I cant remember the last time I had a need for high beam auto or not dipped beam on modern cars is so good, all high beam seems to do is blind me with the reflections from road signs.

[Alucidnation]

Must admit the led headlights on my daughters golf burn your retinas with reflections from some road signs on main beam

[Ninja59]

Leptons said:

What do you think I’m moaning about? I couldn’t give a st what colour the light is, it’s the brightness that’s the problem.

You say that but your original post was referencing clever lights and brightness which is two separate things you doughnut.

[Ninja59]

Gareth79 said:

I think the higher-end systems use the vehicle's front cameras rather than a simple light sensor? That would account for some systems working very well, and others not.

Many cameras mounted in the windscreen carryout multiple operations.

BMW's Kafas camera in essence is a rain sensor for the wipers, lights and numerous other functions.

[GhostWKD]

MikeGoodwin said:

Remember getting my old e92 with led lights. Got flashed a lot on normal beam. So used to put my full beams on to dazzle them even more people used to go sick

Random but there were a load of sheep walking along the side of the country road I was driving down at night recently. Minute down the road and a car coming the other way seemed to be making very good progress - tried to warn him of the potential of marys lamb being in the road by putting my hazards on and flashing my lights at him and he responded by blinding me with his full beam. Wonderful mentality of drivers these days...

[Osinjak]

GhostWKD said:

MikeGoodwin said:

Remember getting my old e92 with led lights. Got flashed a lot on normal beam. So used to put my full beams on to dazzle them even more people used to go sick

Random but there were a load of sheep walking along the side of the country road I was driving down at night recently. Minute down the road and a car coming the other way seemed to be making very good progress - tried to warn him of the potential of marys lamb being in the road by putting my hazards on and flashing my lights at him and he responded by blinding me with his full beam. Wonderful mentality of drivers these days...

Because of course he would know that blinding him with your main beam directly translates into 'sheep in the road.'

[GhostWKD]

Osinjak said:

Because of course he would know that blinding him with your main beam directly translates into 'sheep in the road.'

Well how else do you propose you warn someone of a hazard? Genuine question, would you propose the better thing to do is to do nothing?

[lyonspride]

GhostWKD said:

MikeGoodwin said:

Remember getting my old e92 with led lights. Got flashed a lot on normal beam. So used to put my full beams on to dazzle them even more people used to go sick

Random but there were a load of sheep walking along the side of the country road I was driving down at night recently. Minute down the road and a car coming the other way seemed to be making very good progress - tried to warn him of the potential of marys lamb being in the road by putting my hazards on and flashing my lights at him and he responded by blinding me with his full beam. Wonderful mentality of drivers these days...

Everyone is just looking for something to be offended by, and as a result the immediate assumption is based on that rather than logic. Sometimes I do wonder WTF someone was flashing and honking at me, and usually looking back at the dashcam footage it's just them taking offence at nothing.

I know a couple of times it was because I didn't slow down to a crawl to pass them when there was adequate space on a country lane, but since when did slowing down make your car smaller?
Another time it was because I used 1m wide hatch markings to overtake a cyclist and the unaffected oncoming driver clearly thought this was illegal.

[grumpynuts]

Like many posters, I have adaptive lighting and LED lights (Lexus) and they are very clever. BUT, I also find them too slow to react so never activate the system. I consider myself a polite driver, so will dip main beam much earlier that the car does,then I will reactivate main beam much quicker than the car does. The human brain will always be better than a computer for deciding when to and not to have main beam on as there are so many factors at play, every car I have driven with an adaptive lighting set up isn't quite good enough, and I find it ultimately frustrating to have to regularly over ride the car to avoid blinding the poor sod coming the other way or in front.
Like many PHers, I tent to push on when driving, conditions allowing, and this could be the issue, I'll try bimbling about and see if it works any better. Better still ,switch it off and go back to what I have learnt over many years of driving and riding bikes.

[Timbergiant]

From my experience the higher riding cars I've had seemed to trigger the revenge full beamers, even when the high beams weren't on, the adaptive LEDs on my 4 series are superb though, but to be honest the full beam isn’t really needed but the dance they do is great.

[Pica-Pica]

grumpynuts said:

Like many posters, I have adaptive lighting and LED lights (Lexus) and they are very clever. BUT, I also find them too slow to react so never activate the system. I consider myself a polite driver, so will dip main beam much earlier that the car does,then I will reactivate main beam much quicker than the car does. The human brain will always be better than a computer for deciding when to and not to have main beam on as there are so many factors at play, every car I have driven with an adaptive lighting set up isn't quite good enough, and I find it ultimately frustrating to have to regularly over ride the car to avoid blinding the poor sod coming the other way or in front.
Like many PHers, I tent to push on when driving, conditions allowing, and this could be the issue, I'll try bimbling about and see if it works any better. Better still ,switch it off and go back to what I have learnt over many years of driving and riding bikes.

The BMW F30 works well. Also, if you have it activated, the button to activate/deactivate is on the end of the left stalk, and is therefore easier to action that a push/pull on the left lever.

[Pica-Pica]

GhostWKD said:

Osinjak said:

Because of course he would know that blinding him with your main beam directly translates into 'sheep in the road.'

Well how else do you propose you warn someone of a hazard? Genuine question, would you propose the better thing to do is to do nothing?

Yes.

[Leptons]

Ninja59 said:

You say that but your original post was referencing clever lights and brightness which is two separate things you doughnut.

I was referring to being dazzled by oncoming car headlights. Whether it’s caused by driver error, bright lights or silly systems that don’t work properly I don’t know. You fktard.