Wrapping and car insurance?

Wrapping and car insurance?

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Agm2992mga

Original Poster:

18 posts

62 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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Car insurance firms I've approached don't want to go anywhere near a wrapped vehicle, not wanting to touch insuring the car if this modification is carried out.

Feel quite conflicted about this.
How do people get around this or go about things after sticking a wrap on?

Is it just commonly not declared - Maybe not necessary to declare if we're talking black to matt black wrap, for instance? Simpler if not a DVLA colour change?

Plus if the worst were to happen and you were to have gone this route but have an accident without having declared the wrap, would an insurer really void entire policy and refuse the claim or just not cover damage to the additional cost spent on the wrap etc?

Thanks for any information.

Chris32345

2,086 posts

62 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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If you had. A crash they likely wouldn't pay a penny out to you they have to paid out any 3rd party damage but likely to take legal proceeding out against you to recover the costs

Sir Bagalot

6,478 posts

181 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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Chris32345 said:
If you had. A crash they likely wouldn't pay a penny out to you they have to paid out any 3rd party damage but likely to take legal proceeding out against you to recover the costs
What do you base this nonsense on?

750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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Sir Bagalot said:
Chris32345 said:
If you had. A crash they likely wouldn't pay a penny out to you they have to paid out any 3rd party damage but likely to take legal proceeding out against you to recover the costs
What do you base this nonsense on?
Mate down the pub...

thebigmacmoomin

2,798 posts

169 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Agm2992mga said:
Plus if the worst were to happen and you were to have gone this route but have an accident without having declared the wrap, would an insurer really void entire policy and refuse the claim or just not cover damage to the additional cost spent on the wrap etc?
If you have ANY undeclared modifications, your car insurance is VOID and obviously they will not pay out.

You even have to ask this ??

otolith

56,084 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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thebigmacmoomin said:
If you have ANY undeclared modifications, your car insurance is VOID and obviously they will not pay out.
It's rather more complicated than that. They can, but they won't always. Usually voiding from inception will only happen if the risk was one that they would not have taken on at all, and them doing that has serious consequences.

https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publication...

HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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otolith said:
Usually voiding from inception will only happen if the risk was one that they would not have taken on at all
Presumably that would be the case in these instances if insurers are refusing to quote at all for wrapped cars, though?

DuncB7

353 posts

98 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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thebigmacmoomin said:
If you have ANY undeclared modifications, your car insurance is VOID and obviously they will not pay out.
Incorrect.

Chris32345 said:
If you had. A crash they likely wouldn't pay a penny out to you they have to paid out any 3rd party damage but likely to take legal proceeding out against you to recover the costs
Hogwash.

AC123

1,116 posts

154 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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thebigmacmoomin said:
If you have ANY undeclared modifications, your car insurance is VOID and obviously they will not pay out.

You even have to ask this ??
Putting certain words in CAPITALS does not make your statement TRUE.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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DuncB7 said:
thebigmacmoomin said:
If you have ANY undeclared modifications, your car insurance is VOID and obviously they will not pay out.
Incorrect.

Chris32345 said:
If you had. A crash they likely wouldn't pay a penny out to you they have to paid out any 3rd party damage but likely to take legal proceeding out against you to recover the costs
Hogwash.
Agree. This comes up on here so often.

Best take the tyre pressure monitoring system valve caps off my disco quick! (and the 12v cigar socket extender, and the non-Landrover replacement running boards, and the DAB antenna and the "aftermarket" Grabber AT2 tyres etc etc )

Mr lestat

4,318 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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There was a case a few months ago where someone had recently refurbished the wheels on the car to a different shade of silver from the original and that counted as a modification. Your best to declare everything if you want the peace of mind that all is well. However if you’re not bothered carry on. I’m not sure what happens if you have a car that’s a few years old and you aren’t sure if it’s been modified in any way or not by a previous owner.
That’s probably a bit of a minefield

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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I was going to replace the exhaust tips on my 340i and was told by LV that it counted as a modification. Seems to me that insurance companies are taking the word "modification" quite literally.

walamai

439 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Seems like a non-issue to me. When I wrapped my car (insured through Admiral) I just declared the modification. From memory I only paid the admin fee for the change, it made no difference to the premium. Likewise when I removed the wrap before selling the car.

Jamescrs

4,479 posts

65 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Contact a modified car insurer such as Greenlight, Sky Insurance or Adrian Flux amongst others, I'm sure they would all cover it without issue

Durzel

12,264 posts

168 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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I had a wrapped Type-R with Greenlight, albeit a few years ago, for what it's worth.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Mr lestat said:
There was a case a few months ago where someone had recently refurbished the wheels on the car to a different shade of silver from the original and that counted as a modification. Your best to declare everything if you want the peace of mind that all is well. However if you’re not bothered carry on. I’m not sure what happens if you have a car that’s a few years old and you aren’t sure if it’s been modified in any way or not by a previous owner.
That’s probably a bit of a minefield
That was when they had a black box installed, and the installer told the insurance company. The insurance company, partially understandably, didn't want to insure someone that was already high risk (black box driver - young) and had, in their mind , "snazzed up" the wheels.

That is a world apart from crashing, and then your insurer trying to wriggle out of paying because you changed the colour of your wheels. I'd love to see that stick in court.

Haltamer

2,455 posts

80 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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The fact you're struggling to get a quote for it at all makes me think you may already be in an especially high risk category?

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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few years ago, a neighbour's, son's corsa was hit by a bin wagon- badly. write off.

his car was parked up outside the house, stationary, no one in it/driving.

absolute clear liability/fault.

as he'd stuck some aftermarket halfordsesque alloys on it- not declared it- sadly the insurance companies told him to do one.



true story bro and everything. by me, not down the pub.

drjdog

345 posts

70 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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austinsmirk said:
few years ago, a neighbour's, son's corsa was hit by a bin wagon- badly. write off.

his car was parked up outside the house, stationary, no one in it/driving.

absolute clear liability/fault.

as he'd stuck some aftermarket halfordsesque alloys on it- not declared it- sadly the insurance companies told him to do one.



true story bro and everything. by me, not down the pub.
You might say that it's true, but I don't believe it.

otolith

56,084 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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HM-2 said:
otolith said:
Usually voiding from inception will only happen if the risk was one that they would not have taken on at all
Presumably that would be the case in these instances if insurers are refusing to quote at all for wrapped cars, though?
Yes, that would be a sticky wicket.