RE: Nissan Almera GTI: Spotted

RE: Nissan Almera GTI: Spotted

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85Carrera

3,503 posts

237 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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rallycross said:
This dealer wins the award for the most over priced cars advertised every year.

These cars were good to drive and very few left, but that does not make it worth this sort of money.
Anyone who pays this dealer’s asking prices is a mug. Always way above market.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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ZX10R NIN said:
Croutons said:
Ridiculous price, ridiculous. You would need your head reading to pay that much and I couldn't care less how apparently rare that is.

Here's a more basic model with a claimed 17k from new for a grand. A grand.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-17k...

And if you want a middling one, here is an SRi that's barried but the sort of person who'd buy it would probably like that, and it's 2k.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-sri...

6.5k??? Shove it up your ARSE.
Compare apples with apples are there any GTI's for sale?
Very valid point - I couldn't find any GTIs near the one in the article condition wise/mileage wise. There's one bring sold as a track car for about £800 but nothing close to this I could see

As for similar cars...you can buy an E30 318is for 4K but a genuine M3 in great condition can cost 10 times that.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

237 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Turbobanana said:
Lotusgone said:
One of my son's mates bought an Almera, being the "best" he could afford having written off his first car. He wasn't the brightest, and we convinced him that Almera was Spanish for "old woman".
biggrin

I think the name was actually chosen because it meant nothing in any language, and was pronounced more or less the same anywhere.

Unlike Japanese naming conventions of old: Mazda Bongo Friendee, anyone? Nissan Fairlady?
Not to mention the Pajero if you’re on your lonesome (hence badged as a Shogun in Europe) ...

Lollypops

104 posts

75 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I had one of these for a number of years (9 or 10) and it was a great fun car. The reliability of it was incredible, by far the most reliable car I have ever owned. The only non serviceable items I had to replace were a heater resistor card as the fans started blowing on the top setting only, the starter motor and the front brake calipers, all of which were cheap to sort.

I think the guy quoting 196bhp from the mods mentioned went to a very optimistic dyno!

Rust has claimed most of them now. Couldn't tell you the last time I saw one on the road!

T-195

2,671 posts

61 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Croutons said:
Ridiculous price, ridiculous. You would need your head reading to pay that much and I couldn't care less how apparently rare that is.

Here's a more basic model with a claimed 17k from new for a grand. A grand.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-17k...

And if you want a middling one, here is an SRi that's barried but the sort of person who'd buy it would probably like that, and it's 2k.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-sri...

6.5k??? Shove it up your ARSE.
I agree. Not a bad car but i wouldn't pay anything like the asking price for it.

StescoG66

2,117 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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85Carrera said:
Not to mention the Pajero if you’re on your lonesome (hence badged as a Shogun in Europe) ...
It was badged Montero in Spain as far as I recall as Pajero means wker in Spanish...........

MissChief

7,105 posts

168 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Many moons ago I had a T reg 1.4 Almera in green after my parents were offered £300 as a trade in for it and I needed a car. it was, by far, the most soulless and average car I've ever owned, but it was absolutely faultless. Nothing ever went wrong, it flew through it's MOT every year with the occasional tyre required and other than some new brake pads and a couple of oil changes it cost me nothing else. While I may not have liked it, it was a godsend at the time having just split from my wife and it was even relatively economical too. I always fancied a GTI version and all performance Nissan's of the time had their handling signed off by racing driver Dirk Schoysman so they all handled well.

I wasn't exactly sad when it got written off after an older gentleman pulled out into me but going from this to a Peugeot 306 GTI-6 was a huge change in performance and ability as well as a huge change in maintenance and bills! Every 306 Bill, which felt like every 6-9 months always seemed to start with a 3 or a 4 compared to the minimal maintenance on the Almera.

greenarrow

3,588 posts

117 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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s m said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Croutons said:
Ridiculous price, ridiculous. You would need your head reading to pay that much and I couldn't care less how apparently rare that is.

Here's a more basic model with a claimed 17k from new for a grand. A grand.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-17k...

And if you want a middling one, here is an SRi that's barried but the sort of person who'd buy it would probably like that, and it's 2k.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-sri...

6.5k??? Shove it up your ARSE.
Compare apples with apples are there any GTI's for sale?
Very valid point - I couldn't find any GTIs near the one in the article condition wise/mileage wise. There's one bring sold as a track car for about £800 but nothing close to this I could see

As for similar cars...you can buy an E30 318is for 4K but a genuine M3 in great condition can cost 10 times that.
My thoughts exactly, how ridiculous to compare a basic Almera where demand would be virtually nil to a rare top of the range model that is bound to appeal to someone! Compare the prices of Ford Sierra Cosworths to Sierra 1.8 LXs!!

The fact is these cars are extremely rare! 168 left including SORN according to "how many are left". I cant find another one for sale anywhere in the country TBH. So its worth whatever someone wants to pay for what is basically, with that mileage, a unique car!

Croutons

9,871 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I'm sorry, but rarity in itself is not any reason for there to be a high price, hence my comments.

There are plenty of rare cars, but that doesn't mean they're desirable.

They can still shove it.

Morry10

165 posts

185 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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SuperDuperMiniCooper said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
I remember the advert for these on TV.
As a red blooded 22 year old when this advert came out it sent me straight down to the dealership in the hope I could afford a GTI. Turned out the Si was more my level.

https://youtu.be/Rwcb_D2Xm-w
Snap smile Had an Almera Si in white (cringe) back when I was in my early 20's also - good car at the time. That is a great advert tho biggrin

cris9964

211 posts

180 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I had one of these. Brilliant drive. One of the few cars of the era that had the feeling of pivoting around it's central point (not quite 106 gti but close) and would lift a rear wheel!

Drove it with 'spirit' to Phil Price's Rally school in Wales, had a great day and then took the Almera around the course... The sump survived.

They were built so well....

andyman_2006

723 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Feel like I should also offer some praise here...

I owned one of these from almost new (ex demo car) and have to say it was totally faultless totally reliable, in fact bomb proof! I had mine 6 years and clocked up 84k miles before selling it for £2850 back in 2005. Mine was a 99 model, apart from servicing I only ever needed to fit a battery, and several sets of new tyres (Yokohama as I recall) nothing went wrong with it ever, no rust issues paint was perfect, but then I did look after it, suspect many got used and abused.

Some say how they were not that fast but my mate had a saxo vts, he drove that hard, and it was way lighter and on paper faster, but when we were on it he could never pass me, and we raced about a lot there was nothing in it through the gears either, the Nissan having a 2.0 would pull 10mph more top speed over the saxo easily. but What was clearly better with the Nissan was build quality, and interiors and overall spec the Nissan had A/c and electric roof, Sony cd etc, the mk1 saxo just mega basic, and our cars cost exactly the same as ex demos.

I did some mild mods over the time I had it, nothing mega serious, better discs (Tarox) and ebc pads, full scorpion exhaust, and a K&N 57i kit, lowered it 30mm (they did sit a bit high) and it really made an overall difference, some said the engine was good for 200+ bhp, I never exploited that.

Also had the primera GT as well, a Ltd edition chroma flair painted one, and guess what exactly same bullet proof engine, and reliability, never felt as fast as the GTI though, but had full leather, 6cd etc, very rare cars these days.

Must say these 90’s era nissans may not have the heart strings or image pull of a fast ford but they were way more capable than many knew or cared to admit at the time.

On the price, well is it really that much, given the poorly built 106gti is pulling similar money these days? And fast fords are way off the scale now.

I paid £10k for mine as ex demo, In comparison, whilst a modern hot hatch has 100% more power, they are now 100% more expensive at least, so it’s all relative isn’t it?

Still cracking cars for the era and look back fondly on my ownership of the GTi and the GT, if I had space, and this wasn’t black I’d be tempted to make them an offer, I mean find another this good??

Andy




jason61c

Original Poster:

5,978 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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andyman_2006 said:
Feel like I should also offer some praise here...

I owned one of these from almost new (ex demo car) and have to say it was totally faultless totally reliable, in fact bomb proof! I had mine 6 years and clocked up 84k miles before selling it for £2850 back in 2005. Mine was a 99 model, apart from servicing I only ever needed to fit a battery, and several sets of new tyres (Yokohama as I recall) nothing went wrong with it ever, no rust issues paint was perfect, but then I did look after it, suspect many got used and abused.

Some say how they were not that fast but my mate had a saxo vts, he drove that hard, and it was way lighter and on paper faster, but when we were on it he could never pass me, and we raced about a lot there was nothing in it through the gears either, the Nissan having a 2.0 would pull 10mph more top speed over the saxo easily. but What was clearly better with the Nissan was build quality, and interiors and overall spec the Nissan had A/c and electric roof, Sony cd etc, the mk1 saxo just mega basic, and our cars cost exactly the same as ex demos.

I did some mild mods over the time I had it, nothing mega serious, better discs (Tarox) and ebc pads, full scorpion exhaust, and a K&N 57i kit, lowered it 30mm (they did sit a bit high) and it really made an overall difference, some said the engine was good for 200+ bhp, I never exploited that.

Also had the primera GT as well, a Ltd edition chroma flair painted one, and guess what exactly same bullet proof engine, and reliability, never felt as fast as the GTI though, but had full leather, 6cd etc, very rare cars these days.

Must say these 90’s era nissans may not have the heart strings or image pull of a fast ford but they were way more capable than many knew or cared to admit at the time.

On the price, well is it really that much, given the poorly built 106gti is pulling similar money these days? And fast fords are way off the scale now.

I paid £10k for mine as ex demo, In comparison, whilst a modern hot hatch has 100% more power, they are now 100% more expensive at least, so it’s all relative isn’t it?

Still cracking cars for the era and look back fondly on my ownership of the GTi and the GT, if I had space, and this wasn’t black I’d be tempted to make them an offer, I mean find another this good??

Andy
Exactly the same as I had with mine, the engine had more midrange then makes saxo vTS's etc. Also did the same with tarox discs. Amazing grip could be generated from the chassis, lift off oversteer in the wet nearly killed my first one, well my crappy driving to cause it. They need decent rubber.

you can get 250bhp (N/A) out of the engine's, I left mine standard though.

One thing that did start to play up was the central locking, on both versions I had it started to lock the car without warning.


u04pww2

72 posts

97 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Omega1987 said:
Personally I'd be looking at slightly more modern and cheaper alternatives such as Focus ST170, Focus ST 5cly, EP3 CTR, Mazda 3 MPS, RS Megan, ect. All cheaper and offer more in the way of Performance. I'm sure the Almera is a great car and Nissans of this pre Renault era were exceptionally reliable but I just can't see it being worth anything like what's being asked.
They are all alot more modern so of course they will offer more performance..also can you find me an EP3 in pristine condition with less than 30k on it for anywhere near the same asking price? Not too mention the rarity value, i've owned both cars and can tell you that even though the modern cars are a bit faster the older car is still the most fun to drive. You need to remember that these older cars were alot lighter meaning they felt great round the twisty stuff. If i had the spare cash i'd be buying this.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Croutons said:
Ridiculous price, ridiculous. You would need your head reading to pay that much and I couldn't care less how apparently rare that is.

Here's a more basic model with a claimed 17k from new for a grand. A grand.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-17k...

And if you want a middling one, here is an SRi that's barried but the sort of person who'd buy it would probably like that, and it's 2k.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/nissan/nissan-almera-sri...

6.5k??? Shove it up your ARSE.
Not a particularly sleek shape but with some muscle relaxants like diazepam, some lube and a tent peg mallet it should be possible...just..

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

218 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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As per my name I owned a Pulsar VZ-R with the SR16VE 170HP 8Kish rev limit. With a set of coil overs it was a fantastic car, handled like it was on rails and was relatively quick, not too much quicker than the Almera GTI but power delivery was much more fun.

MissChief

7,105 posts

168 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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vz-r_dave said:
As per my name I owned a Pulsar VZ-R with the SR16VE 170HP 8Kish rev limit. With a set of coil overs it was a fantastic car, handled like it was on rails and was relatively quick, not too much quicker than the Almera GTI but power delivery was much more fun.
A better HP/Litre value than a S2000!

ianwayne

6,290 posts

268 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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85Carrera said:
Anyone who pays this dealer’s asking prices is a mug. Always way above market.
I've bid against these guys (KGF) at auction, usually ACA in King's Lynn. They get hold of low mileage "any car," and then try to sell them, sometimes for 100% mark up or more. So there are 'mugs' who will pay it, the type who can't be arsed to do their own research or look hard enough.

However, they've a low mileage TVR Cerbera at the moment that isn't way above market price anywhere else and it hasn't sold.

lord trumpton

7,389 posts

126 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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I must be a fool and and easily part with money but I think the Almera here is worth every penny and I'd go so far to say the RS2000 isn't such a bad price either.

I mean look at the offerings of todays modern hatches - all the same euro ste with very little character.

6.5k allows you to travel back in time and purchase a car that is as close to new as possible, bags of character, reliable, cheap to tax and is full of retro coolness. There's also a raft of cheap, readily available parts.

I'd be happy to buy that and drive it every day in principle and enjoy the feeling of having something retro, different and a bit special surrounding me.

I guess it appeals to the 'spare cash lying around' buyer who is dosed up on memories and nostalgia.

My only gripe is the colour - I'd have preferred the red as per the original advert for the complete nostalgia trip

BricktopST205

898 posts

134 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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For that price you could Import an Pulsar VZ-R for that price which was basically Nissans version of the EK9 Type-R.