RE: Porsche 911 Carrera S vs Audi R8 RWS: PH Video!
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redroadster said:
Porsche are most profitable car company in world for a reason ,fools keep paying more and more for cars .
When does yours arrive ?
Truth is Porsche do make really good cars and, borderline dubious practices and all, they do a bleeding good job of selling and marketing them too, that's a pretty potent cocktail.
I'm a fan of 911s of all shapes and sizes but as the ranges expand so the extremities look more interesting than the mainstream choices in the middle - for example T and GT3/RS were to me the most interesting of the 991s. The said everything else in between was exceptionally competent and likely to have made for very satisfied owners.
I wouldn't buy a 992 currently for the sole reason that as competent as the current models are there are going to be more engaging versions arriving in the near future. For that reason out of these particular two I'd probably go with the Audi for the engine and sense of occasion alone.
wab172uk said:
Having owned the previous gen R8, I'd go 911 this time. Only not the new 992 ..... yet
I'm more inclined to get a 991 GTS, then wait a good few years till the 992 GTS get's onto the second hand market.
991.2 turbo 6 over a v10 nasp? I'm more inclined to get a 991 GTS, then wait a good few years till the 992 GTS get's onto the second hand market.
Love Porsche’s have owned 4 but I’m enjoying the extra cylinders before Jeremy Corbyn takes them off me and makes me ride a wooden bike or something
I am happy with my old MK1 V10+. Audi have leant me several of the new ones and when at 120K it was not compelling in the slightest. At 80K for a V10+ then yes, that is compelling and I don't agree with the inferences of RWS being 'by far' the best new R8. A V10+ without active dampers and steering is probably the right combination, but try and find one.
Far more road presence than my old 996 GT3, much quicker A to B due to being more planted and less camber sensitive too, but not as good in some important areas such as steering, but little is compared to a 996 GT3. It gets massive respect on the road and usually the most vocal criticisms come from those sorts who when you click on their car history it's full of 10K to 20K heaps. Sounds snobby I know, but it's does seem to be the case. They get angry at the perception they have of the Audi driver and what they think it makes them think they are. All very odd.
For 80K a Mk2 V10+ or RWS is matched in value only by a 12C.
Far more road presence than my old 996 GT3, much quicker A to B due to being more planted and less camber sensitive too, but not as good in some important areas such as steering, but little is compared to a 996 GT3. It gets massive respect on the road and usually the most vocal criticisms come from those sorts who when you click on their car history it's full of 10K to 20K heaps. Sounds snobby I know, but it's does seem to be the case. They get angry at the perception they have of the Audi driver and what they think it makes them think they are. All very odd.
For 80K a Mk2 V10+ or RWS is matched in value only by a 12C.
Nubiann said:
Just get the feeling your conclusion is a little conforming to stereotype. Universally the R8 has been credited with being the best supercar to live with and use everyday but add to this your affirmation that the R8 is the most exciting of the two on a cross country blast, surely it should have informed your final choice. So I'm puzzled by the reason for choosing the somewhat anonymous 911, it does appear a bit me too and lame. The RWS will no doubt become a classic due to its relative rarity. You suggest the Porsche has to be pushed to its limits to get the excitement factor from it, to me you are describing a 911 that is inferior to the RWS in every area. Last weekend I was out having Sunday lunch in a very affluent market town in South Wales. There were 4 Porsches parked prominently in the space of 100 metres yet the head turner and I mean everyone, watched as an immaculate Gen 1 R8 burbled slowly up the street stopped outside a local store with a cash point. An unassuming guy, classily unaware that his beautiful ride was getting so much attention, got his cash, re fired the V8 and burbled slowly away out of town. You could hear the universal sighs of approval. R8 all R8's seem to get more admiring glances than Porsche's it's not the only reason I'd choose the R8 but I must admit its on the list. So R8 RWS for me hands down and that's not me being brave
I like the fact there are so many 911s around that you could be in. 30k one or a 150k one and non car people won’t think much diff or give a second glance (some of the GT models excluded) , sure there are many on here who appreciate lambos, Ferrari’s etf but personally choose to drive something less shouty . Edited by Nubiann on Saturday 4th May 09:45
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Cold said:
Housey said:
SydneySE said:
since when is £100K supercar money? you don't get an entry level ferrari or lambo for much under £200K.....
McLaren 12C McLaren 570S
Or do they not tick your appropriate box?
The 911 is super boring, the turbo s might be okay though
If you’re not using the small rear seats then it’s hard to look past mclaren - and before people whine about new vs used blah blah, who cares - you can get an ultra low mileage one for the same price so it’s extreme comparable
If you’re not using the small rear seats then it’s hard to look past mclaren - and before people whine about new vs used blah blah, who cares - you can get an ultra low mileage one for the same price so it’s extreme comparable
jakesmith said:
Is a £100k 12C not a supercar as it isn't brand new? I'm not sure that's right
Merely highlighting the futility of comparing new prices with used. It's a trap some seem to fall into without even realising that their apples are, in fact, oranges. As it happens, I don't believe there is a price point at which a car can be classified as a supercar. That classification is almost infinitely variable, absolutely subjective and utterly intangible.
But in this particular case a base spec 911 can never be considered a supercar no matter the performance statistics nor the RRP - and I'll take some convincing about the bells and whistles whizzy ones.
Nicely presented informative video, keep these coming please. Shows up the you-tubers for the crap they present.
R8 for me as a 2nd car, 992 would have to be my choice though if an only car though. People seldom realise how important those 2 extra seats are in justifying the purchase of a 911 over many of its competitors.
R8 for me as a 2nd car, 992 would have to be my choice though if an only car though. People seldom realise how important those 2 extra seats are in justifying the purchase of a 911 over many of its competitors.
WCZ said:
The 911 is super boring, the turbo s might be okay though
If you’re not using the small rear seats then it’s hard to look past mclaren - and before people whine about new vs used blah blah, who cares - you can get an ultra low mileage one for the same price so it’s extreme comparable
Funnily enough I’d say that the Turbo S is one of the more boring 911s.If you’re not using the small rear seats then it’s hard to look past mclaren - and before people whine about new vs used blah blah, who cares - you can get an ultra low mileage one for the same price so it’s extreme comparable
The real fun is at the edges of the range too and bottom.
The most all round competency and practicality in the middle.
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