RE: Renault Sport Megane vs. Hyundai i30 N: Rematch!

RE: Renault Sport Megane vs. Hyundai i30 N: Rematch!

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AJB88

12,404 posts

171 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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i30 N performance pack over the Megane for me, both are "quite" rare to spot on the road though compared to Golf R and GTI,

ZX10R NIN

27,594 posts

125 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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I've seen a fair few i30N's around where I live but not on RS Megane which is surprising as there are a lot of 250-275's about.

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Never seen either on the road but just ordered a white Meg 280 on 18' and Cup.

Zarco

17,841 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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nickfrog said:
Never seen either on the road but just ordered a white Meg 280 on 18' and Cup.
Why not the Trophy?

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Zarco said:
Why not the Trophy?
I am not fussed about the 20hp and it has stuff that I didn't want to pay for in the first place, like alcantara etc... It's for a trackable daily so 19' really don't help as you can't find decent semis in the size whereas 235 40 18 gives you loads of choice, including AD08s at £600 a set. I prefer a bit more sidewall too. Other issue was the 2 - piece discs which are mega money to replace and I go through pads/discs, will be running RS29.

Zarco

17,841 posts

209 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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Interesting thanks. Got my eye on these for a potential next car in a couple of years.

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Sunday 12th May 2019
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It's probably a logical progression from the 275 Cup-S, particularly in the context of a daily and the drive away tracks on the continent... I hope it will be easier to fit my mountain bike in it too!

heisthegaffer

3,399 posts

198 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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I am a bit biased so would go French but I also think the i30 is a lovely thing so would be chuffed with either.

I have to say, with the wide stance and slightly unusual looks, to me the Megane has hints of an Integrale about it.

Love that colour too.

Reark

85 posts

88 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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"Why might they be preferable to their jazzier, firmer, pricier siblings? In the Renault's case, it's that nagging suspicion that, however much Cup or Trophy or Chalice is thrown at it, the Megane IV will never deliver the same raw, visceral entertainment as the old Meganes - so why bother attempting to?"

Moans about the new generation not being hardcore enough so chooses the least hardcore version available???

framerateuk

2,733 posts

184 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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nickfrog said:
It's probably a logical progression from the 275 Cup-S, particularly in the context of a daily and the drive away tracks on the continent... I hope it will be easier to fit my mountain bike in it too!
I'm not sure it would be much easier! The boot is quite a bit shallower than the old Megane.

That said, you can actually get a roof rack for the MKIV (the MKIII couple wasn't homogenised for a roof rack!), so that's probably the best route to go...

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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framerateuk said:
I'm not sure it would be much easier! The boot is quite a bit shallower than the old Megane.

That said, you can actually get a roof rack for the MKIV (the MKIII couple wasn't homogenised for a roof rack!), so that's probably the best route to go...
Interesting thx. My main limitation was the length of the load area rather than height as the bike is laid down with the front wheel off. Still occasional anyway as it stands straight in the Karok and even locks with the dropper...

framerateuk

2,733 posts

184 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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nickfrog said:
Interesting thx. My main limitation was the length of the load area rather than height as the bike is laid down with the front wheel off. Still occasional anyway as it stands straight in the Karok and even locks with the dropper...
The load area should be a bit longer than the old car (the opening is also better too). I managed to squeeze 2 mountain bikes into the boot of my Clio so you should be ok in the Megane.

Turbojuice

601 posts

89 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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Reark said:
"Why might they be preferable to their jazzier, firmer, pricier siblings? In the Renault's case, it's that nagging suspicion that, however much Cup or Trophy or Chalice is thrown at it, the Megane IV will never deliver the same raw, visceral entertainment as the old Meganes - so why bother attempting to?"

Moans about the new generation not being hardcore enough so chooses the least hardcore version available???
I always found the reviews and general comments from journos on the RS Megane 4 very perplexing. Main complaint of the 3 was how it was sometimes too hardcore for everyday use and the fact it wasn't as practical as others. The 4 solved that with a much nicer interior and 5 doors, but still drives like an RS should (according to RS owners who have gone from a 3 to the new 4). Journos seemed to get hung up on the improved refinement though and took that as it becoming a much softer animal, when in fact it was still just as good to drive when pushing on, if not better, but could now be used as a legitimate family car.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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New Megane seems to cope just fine with being pushed on the Ring judging by the videos being uploaded.

Good to see the 18" on these cars, always think these 19" on this circumference is just a notch too big

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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Turbojuice said:
I always found the reviews and general comments from journos on the RS Megane 4 very perplexing. Main complaint of the 3 was how it was sometimes too hardcore for everyday use and the fact it wasn't as practical as others. The 4 solved that with a much nicer interior and 5 doors, but still drives like an RS should (according to RS owners who have gone from a 3 to the new 4). Journos seemed to get hung up on the improved refinement though and took that as it becoming a much softer animal, when in fact it was still just as good to drive when pushing on, if not better, but could now be used as a legitimate family car.
I don't take much notice of what your average car journo says, they often seem to be bitter about not having made it as a proper journalist, but there are exceptions.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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nickfrog said:
It's for a trackable daily so 19' really don't help as you can't find decent semis in the size whereas 235 40 18 gives you loads of choice, including AD08s at £600 a set.
I prefer 18" for bumpy rutted b-roads. Also the Cup 2 comes in 235/40R18 if one tyre is to do both road and track duty. For road tyres this size the PS4S was missing though, but now Goodyear has their new F1 Supersport, so far I'm really liking it a lot, loves to be pushed in the dry and much better then the PSS in the cold and wet.

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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Onehp said:
I prefer 18" for bumpy rutted b-roads. Also the Cup 2 comes in 235/40R18 if one tyre is to do both road and track duty. For road tyres this size the PS4S was missing though, but now Goodyear has their new F1 Supersport, so far I'm really liking it a lot, loves to be pushed in the dry and much better then the PSS in the cold and wet.
I tend to run AD08r for as long as I can and switch straight to winters on cheapo wheels. Sounds a bit bizarre but works well actually. The main issue is going to be finding a pad I can run all year round including track days. I was on PFC Z rated but not sure they'll work in the MK4 calipers.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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Hyundai any day. Far better looking than the cheap looking megane plus 7 year warranty. Quality built car than anything French..

Turbojuice

601 posts

89 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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A1VDY said:
Hyundai any day. Far better looking than the cheap looking megane plus 7 year warranty. Quality built car than anything French..
You are thinking of KIA. It's 5 year for Hyundai's. 4 year on the Renault's.

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Monday 13th May 2019
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A1VDY said:
Quality built car than anything French..
I have no doubt you talk out of experience but Megane RS have had a justified reputation for excellent reliability particularly given how much track work they do. It's not particularly French either as built in Spain by a global company with much Japanese engineering.