RE: Tom Hartley: PH Meets

RE: Tom Hartley: PH Meets

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200Plus Club

5,787 posts

219 months

Thursday 16th May
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So many pertinent questions that should have been asked of junior .....
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Mafffew

1,369 posts

52 months

Thursday 16th May
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The stock is mightily impressive, having said that, this reads like an advert/promotion piece for the dealership. Without wanting to be too rude, it wasn't very interesting either.

"PH Meets" really ought to be reserved to those involved in the manufacturing, tuning and racing of cars. Salesman/dealers just aren't that interesting.

On a slightly related note, isn't this the same Carl Hartley that stuffed a sports car last year while racing on a public road? I maybe wrong of course...

POORCARDEALER

8,330 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th May
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"PH Meets" really ought to be reserved to those involved in the manufacturing, tuning and racing of cars. Salesman/dealers just aren't that interesting.



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Really?

You speak for the masses do you?




Vee12V

782 posts

101 months

Thursday 16th May
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I'd rather walk than buy anything from these two muppets.

GranCab

1,449 posts

87 months

Thursday 16th May
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Correct me if I'm wrong but what do they do other that buy 'em cheap, polish them, photograph them (in a puddle) and then sell them on to someone who is willing to pay substantially more than TH paid for them.

Many years ago I was selling my 911 Speedster (with an ad. in AutoTrader Magazine) and schoolboy Tom Junior turned up (with a driver) to view it. He said they could offer it on S.O.R. ... I presumed that was because they didn't have the wherewithal to buy it outright. I wonder if they still trade this way ?
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Gandahar

6,393 posts

69 months

Thursday 16th May
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Their google rating is only 3.5 out of 5. Weird if they are successful and it appears they are.

Nice cars and have a nice living from something they obviously enjoy.

berlintaxi

7,763 posts

114 months

Thursday 16th May
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Pure piece of PR nonsense, as for the brand valuation....rofl

Vocht

1,310 posts

105 months

Thursday 16th May
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These guys always get a lot of hate online but at the end of the day they must be doing something right turning over the amount of quality cars they do. These photos also certainly don't do the showroom justice. I followed the built on their social pages and it's a seriously impressive facility.

tyke350

65 posts

150 months

Thursday 16th May
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Gandahar said:
Their google rating is only 3.5 out of 5. Weird if they are successful and it appears they are.

Nice cars and have a nice living from something they obviously enjoy.
Interesting read, some of the reviews... quite a few along similar lines.

sasha320

310 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th May
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Putting aside the ‘somewhat’ overstated £250m valuation and assuming that the Hartley family have employees to help with administration and buying; how on earth do the vast majority of members of a (sports) motoring forum NOT believe that the Hartley’s have a dream business and I for one, would swap places in an instant.

I’m not saying that they have it is easy but if you’re passionate about (performance / premium) motorcars then aside from a few prize jobs in mainstream automotive / motor racing teams I can’t think of a job I’d rather do!

Rick1.8t

564 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th May
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Vocht said:
These guys always get a lot of hate online but at the end of the day they must be doing something right turning over the amount of quality cars they do. These photos also certainly don't do the showroom justice. I followed the built on their social pages and it's a seriously impressive facility.
I think that with business like these the something 'right' is having the balls, means and drive to make it a success. At the end of the day, it is a case of buying a car and flipping it for a profit - you need to be happy to risk your money and have the required patter to then be able to sell it (a lake and new showroom help to do that via social media too)- They seem to have both now (after what seems to be years of hard work by the old man)

I dont know much about them, if I had the money dont look like my kind of dealership / people but thats OK, plenty of other choice and you dont need to become best friends with a dealership to purchase a car from them.

I think people often seem bitter about a business like this being successfull because it is so simple, buy car, polish car, advertise car. People think 'I could do that' when the reality is you lack one of the things they have, money, balls or drive.

Rick1.8t

564 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th May
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sasha320 said:
I’m not saying that they have it is easy but if you’re passionate about (performance / premium) motorcars then aside from a few prize jobs in mainstream automotive / motor racing teams I can’t think of a job I’d rather do!
I would much rather not sell cars for a living and have a job I loved that paid enough to own such cars for myself to be honest (I know they do personally own some of these cars, and it would need to be a hell of a business / job to be in that position) - It doesnt matter if you are selling clapped out vauxhall corsas or F40's people are people and I would rather not spend 7 days a week pandering to peoples needs trying to sell them something, no matter how expensive / amazing the product, money doesnt remove the asshole, sometimes the oppsosite.

Rick1.8t

564 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th May
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sasha320 said:
I’m not saying that they have it is easy but if you’re passionate about (performance / premium) motorcars then aside from a few prize jobs in mainstream automotive / motor racing teams I can’t think of a job I’d rather do!
I would much rather not sell cars for a living and have a job I loved that paid enough to own such cars for myself to be honest (I know they do personally own some of these cars, and it would need to be a hell of a business / job to be in that position) - It doesnt matter if you are selling clapped out vauxhall corsas or F40's people are people and I would rather not spend 7 days a week pandering to peoples needs trying to sell them something, no matter how expensive / amazing the product, money doesnt remove the asshole, sometimes the oppsosite.


Edited by Rick1.8t on Thursday 16th May 10:26

redroadster

883 posts

173 months

Thursday 16th May
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Every car they sell are immaculate ,from a gypsy travellers background the guy has done v v well ,he owns lots of lodge park home sites etc .Good luck to there family biz .ps nice to see my ex number plate on Carl's Bugatti .

Mykoolo

3 posts

5 months

Thursday 16th May
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A very respected name in the car business. Always has the best & most exclusive cars on show. Even has a Renault 5 Turbo from the eighties currently for sale. Epic.👍

The Crack Fox

13,394 posts

133 months

Thursday 16th May
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I knew I remembered the Hartley name for a reason, here it is...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Brooking10; "He had a spat on here once and I may be remembering this wrong but I think there was some racist element underpinning it. His Twitter account is also a strange mixture of business stuff and semi-literate quotes with the odd heavy duty sweat word thrown in."

Fetchez la vache

5,136 posts

155 months

Thursday 16th May
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When the cars pictured that interest me the most are the Renault 5 and 308 GTS... something tells me I'm not really their target market biglaugh

Mykoolo

3 posts

5 months

Thursday 16th May
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Rostyle said:
So where does Tom Hartley Jr fit in exactly , no mention of him anywhere ?
I think you'll find it's "like-father-like-son". TH Jr is very much a part of the business.

Mexman

1,217 posts

25 months

Thursday 16th May
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GranCab said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but what do they do other that buy 'em cheap, polish them, photograph them (in a puddle) and then sell them on to someone who is willing to pay substantially more than TH paid for them.

Many years ago I was selling my 911 Speedster (with an ad. in AutoTrader Magazine) and schoolboy Tom Junior turned up (with a driver) to view it. He said they could offer it on S.O.R. ... I presumed that was because they didn't have the wherewithal to buy it outright. I wonder if they still trade this way ?
Seriously?
I'm sure there is a little more to it than buying, polishing and selling them.
Buying them cheap?..where from exactly?
Polishing them only?....what about paintwork, repairs, parts required, servicing, MOTs, warranties, aftersales?
Making a profit when selling?...err no st Sherlock.

Mafffew

1,369 posts

52 months

Thursday 16th May
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POORCARDEALER said:
Really?

You speak for the masses do you?
Sorry, didn't you get the memo? There was a vote and everything rolleyes

Obviously, it is an opinion. I don't think reading about car dealers/dealerships is very interesting. But different strokes for different folks.

So yes, really, I think PH Meets/interview stuff should be focused on other areas.