Lucky escape.

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FiF

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43,960 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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M6 J26. No doubt buying a lottery ticket, and new trousers. How they got it to hard shoulder and got out is some testament. Lucky not an inch or two to left or right. 'Kinell! Sadly not the first time seen this, but usually much worse outcome.




Matt-il77s

330 posts

89 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Wow, that looks like a child seat in the back too

buggalugs

9,243 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Only a couple of spot welds holding that roof skin in place by the looks of it? Thought they were bonded these days?

donkmeister

7,998 posts

99 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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I errr... Don't suppose there will be any dashcam footage to show where the wheel came from?

(I'm only joking because they walked away from it)

ETA given the immense impact, did the wheel come from the opposite carriageway?

LordHaveMurci

12,034 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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yikes

FiF

Original Poster:

43,960 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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donkmeister said:
I errr... Don't suppose there will be any dashcam footage to show where the wheel came from?

(I'm only joking because they walked away from it)

ETA given the immense impact, did the wheel come from the opposite carriageway?
HGV opposite carriageway indeed.

bearman68

4,642 posts

131 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Insurance are no doubt putting it down as 50:50, and increasing the price of their insurance next year.

Lucky escape though

syl

693 posts

74 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Lucky escape? Buy a lottery ticket?

You must all be firmly glass half full people - I’d call it bloody unlucky myself.

mwstewart

7,554 posts

187 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Wow.

aka_kerrly

12,416 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Jeez, I never thought a wheel would rip a car to shreds like thatyikes

julian64

14,317 posts

253 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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This is why I think the euro NCAP is slighty suspect. It gives the impression that all modern cars are orders of magnitude safer than older cars.

However when I used to have a morris minor and even subsequently a 323i BMW I would have thought nothing about standing on the roof or bonnet. I once spent a night sleeping on top of my 323i bmw.

If you tried that in a modern car the tissue paper metal they are made from would deform immediately.

Now there is a point where you want the deformation to absorb the forces involved but this photo shows how its all got a bit silly. If cars are getting progressively heavier and yet the metal is getting thinner and thinner then you have to wonder that the only thing making a car safer today is that they are twice the size of old cars. Its not really clever engineering

AussieFozzy

136 posts

127 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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For sale, Rare Peugeot 2008 convertible, one owner, low mileage, needs new drivers seat.

Anyway, how much is a roll cage because i think i suddenly really want one.

Sadly roll cages are not legal on the road but this is quite scary. It reminds me of a few weeks when i watched an Audi GT3 car suffer a catastrophic brake failure into a heavy braking zone. It went straight on and into the wall. I've since been back on track and am now slower through that corner because its in the back of my mind.
I suppose thats just the risk taken to strap into any vehicle weather on the track or motorway.

Edited by AussieFozzy on Wednesday 22 May 08:37

NoAdverseDevelopments

300 posts

62 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Wow redface

Absolutely nothing you can do in that situation, it would all happen far too quickly for you to react. As for the strength of the roof in that situation? I very much doubt any manufacturer tests for that eventuality. The kinetic energy from one of those wheels heading towards you at 50mph+ concentrated in such a small area is huge. Imagine if that had been a car with a panoramic glass roof, virtually nothing solid to stop the wheel going through the whole car!

Redline88

381 posts

105 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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AussieFozzy said:
For sale, Rare Peugeot 2008 convertible, one owner, low mileage, needs new drivers seat.

Anyway, how much is a roll cage because i think i suddenly really want one.

Sadly roll cages are not legal on the road but this is quite scary. It reminds me of a few weeks when i watched an Audi GT3 car suffer a catastrophic brake failure into a heavy braking zone. It went straight on and into the wall. I've since been back on track and am now slower through that corner because its in the back of my mind.
I suppose thats just the risk taken to strap into any vehicle weather on the track or motorway.

Edited by AussieFozzy on Wednesday 22 May 08:37
Since when are rollcages not legal on the road. plenty of track focussed cars have them as standard - 911 gt3 rs, Megane R26r to name two...

rxe

6,700 posts

102 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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How bald is that tyre?


Petrus1983

8,521 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Those poor people - of course it could have been worse - but they must have been properly shaken up by that.

mikey k

13,011 posts

215 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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julian64 said:
This is why I think the euro NCAP is slighty suspect. It gives the impression that all modern cars are orders of magnitude safer than older cars.

However when I used to have a morris minor and even subsequently a 323i BMW I would have thought nothing about standing on the roof or bonnet. I once spent a night sleeping on top of my 323i bmw.

If you tried that in a modern car the tissue paper metal they are made from would deform immediately.

Now there is a point where you want the deformation to absorb the forces involved but this photo shows how its all got a bit silly. If cars are getting progressively heavier and yet the metal is getting thinner and thinner then you have to wonder that the only thing making a car safer today is that they are twice the size of old cars. Its not really clever engineering
You may have a point
many years ago I had something similar with a large sheet of wood and a Citroen BX on the M25, it smashed the screen and dented the roof, but was repairable.
Unlike my trousers!

InitialDave

11,854 posts

118 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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AussieFozzy said:
Sadly roll cages are not legal on the road but this is quite scary.
I was about to say they're just fine on the road, but then I clocked your username. I assume this is another example of Oz's attitude problem with cars?

It always amazes me that Australia seems to maintain this image of easy going, freewheeling, she'll-be-right kind of attitudes, yet whenever I see anything relating to motoring law, it comes across as just an irritating, interfering, top-down, computer-says-no approach to everything.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

252 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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NoAdverseDevelopments said:
Wow redface

Absolutely nothing you can do in that situation, it would all happen far too quickly for you to react. As for the strength of the roof in that situation? I very much doubt any manufacturer tests for that eventuality. The kinetic energy from one of those wheels heading towards you at 50mph+ concentrated in such a small area is huge. Imagine if that had been a car with a panoramic glass roof, virtually nothing solid to stop the wheel going through the whole car!
I don’t know, but I suspect a pano roof might actually be stronger than that normal roof.

Feirny

2,500 posts

146 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Looks like it might have had a Pano roof and the airbag detonating has launched it off the car. Big smash though and lucky to walk away.