RE: Audi S6: Driven
Discussion
Michaelbailey said:
I think a key ingredient in a S car has a lot of the time been about the engine. 5.2 v10 from lambo, 2.7 twin turbo in the S4, supercharged 3.0 in the S4, 2.2 in the old S6, even the 4.2 V8 though not the greatest rep it makes a heavenly noise! A diesel I don't think can provide the same as what those engine above provided though they are all different. I know diesels have come a long way but theyre just not a petrol engine, revs, noise, refinement and lightness is something that I think has always never been as good as a petrol and with the current climate I suspect it never will. Theres a reason you don't get a Rolls Royce TDI. In the Q7 it was passable if not warranted to give the S badge too but this S6 seems a rather sporty A6. Much like the A6 Biturbo Diesel. This would have been such a different story should it of just had an A badge, even just let the S badge die in the A6 variant rather than dilute the value.
Agree and the reason that I've always lusted after the S6 was mostly because of its engine. By going diesel I'm not sure that it deserves the S6 badge, but I suppose that is unfair just because I have a personal bias towards a petrol engine. article said:
...but it must have been a while since an S car was bought for its motor.
Really? I can't think of any other reason for buying one. Surely nobody's buying them for the hateful quad exhausts or the fake aluminium mirror caps?Happy S4 (supercharged) owner here. I have absolutely no interest in owning a diesel S car.
When I first heard about the Audi S models being a Diesel, I thought it was a rumour so now its finalised, I don't approve of it at all. I used to own a few TDI units and they are great but I have used them purely to get from A to B wafting whilst returning excellent economy. I don't think a performance car and diesel should be linked, imagine running out of revs on that nice piece of road and can't begin to think of the noise a Diesel would produce unless they put some fake sounds through the speakers or something. However I do understand that S model Audis are probably driven daily and its where Diesel may benefit those people and to give lower company tax too hence Audi have made this move.
I am sure this will push the prices up of many previous generation S model Audis now. I will however continue to enjoy my current petrol S5
I am sure this will push the prices up of many previous generation S model Audis now. I will however continue to enjoy my current petrol S5
Edited by Shuthan_S5 on Thursday 23 May 09:39
Well done Audi virtually all existing customers alienated^. Yes it may bring a few new people to the party (diesel aficionados) but in the round an absolute sales disaster for them imho.
TX.
^I appreciate that the #greentax has perhaps forced them down this road but other manufacturers still seem to be able to churn out bog standard cars for the masses and performance cars for the petrol heads.
TX.
^I appreciate that the #greentax has perhaps forced them down this road but other manufacturers still seem to be able to churn out bog standard cars for the masses and performance cars for the petrol heads.
scottygib553 said:
I would guess that S6 owners typically do a high mileage, I don't see someone buying an S6 of any generation as a weekend runabout. The more I look at it the more it seems to make sense to have gone down this route.
S cars are their performance cars though and RS high performance. Diesel and performance don't go together. As others have said drop the S cars if you have to rather than dilute the brand.TX.
I'm sure it's a good car but unless you need a diesel because you do over 15k a year I can't see how this can be a performance model which wouldn't be improved by a decent petrol engine.
And that's ignoring the fact that it's 100bhp down on the previous model.
I certainly won't be replacing my S6 with one of these.
They will probably sell more than the petrol versions but what popular isn't always right, and what's right isn't always popular!
And that's ignoring the fact that it's 100bhp down on the previous model.
I certainly won't be replacing my S6 with one of these.
They will probably sell more than the petrol versions but what popular isn't always right, and what's right isn't always popular!
Terminator X said:
scottygib553 said:
I would guess that S6 owners typically do a high mileage, I don't see someone buying an S6 of any generation as a weekend runabout. The more I look at it the more it seems to make sense to have gone down this route.
S cars are their performance cars though and RS high performance. Diesel and performance don't go together. As others have said drop the S cars if you have to rather than dilute the brand.TX.
The problem for me is that a diesel engine is purchased with the head rather than the heart, and the noise a diesel engine makes can never be improved at idle and the annoying low rev rattle that they emit. A diesel engine struggles to stir the soul versus a nice petrol engine for me for sure.
silentbrown said:
pot on. I can see the appeal of those as they're pretty understated yet surprisingly quick. Probably no chance of that model in the new line-up as there's not enough clear air performance-wise between it and the S6.
Very little room. The funny thing is I met a bloke with the A6 bitdi and I was very impressed. as soon as you stick an S badge there it becomes a very different thing. The regression from the old S6 is inexcusable as well. 100hp less. This is the end of the S6 and a promotion for the Bitdi in my opinion.yonex said:
It’s the big brother of my awful A4, why can’t Audi make a brake servo work, why is their steering so weird, why does the damping only work on smooth roads?
I’d never own another. Cars made for people that like the badge but care nothing about driving
That would be you then, as you bought one? I’d never own another. Cars made for people that like the badge but care nothing about driving
yonex said:
It’s the big brother of my awful A4, why can’t Audi make a brake servo work, why is their steering so weird, why does the damping only work on smooth roads?
I’d never own another. Cars made for people that like the badge but care nothing about driving
I’ve had 3 of the fI’d never own another. Cars made for people that like the badge but care nothing about driving
king things now, okay I’ll discount the S3 that was quite fun and had a bit of street cred a bit it. God knows why I’ve had the other 2 though, they are awful. The latest one is an A5 which I got to basically lower my tax bill after I pumped an enormous sum of money into renovating our current (soon to be old since it’s sold) house and I would have rather gone skint. f
k me they are awful I really hate them. I honestly think that my life is missing something since having this god awful thing. I think I might just get it valeted since our jack russell has f
ked the interior anyway and just park it up and get a clio sport 200 for 3 grand. Don’t buy an Audi, saying that I change my mood depending on which way the wind blows so this S6 looks lovely.
Knowing a couple of S owners who have been won over by the 640d, I can see the logic in this move. I'm sure they'll lose a few customers, and win a few others. But it's a shame diesel electric (oooh, can we call these deltics?) is the only engine option. The Bavarian equivalents all have petrol choices too.
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