RE: Audi TT RS Sport Edition | Driven
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Shiv_P said:
It's not really ridiculous. It's point and shoot. It's a small, and narrow car. I can imagine a lambo aventador or a 488 leads to having your eyes shut down most B roads.
TTRS has DSG, 4WD, accessible power, it's small, it's narrow, decent visibility.
Nailed itTTRS has DSG, 4WD, accessible power, it's small, it's narrow, decent visibility.
Two GT3s, a Huracan, a 570s, 2 R8’s and a 488 on the trip I mentioned earlier - the RS3 in the group was at least as quick in most sections.
Munched front tyres and brakes though
Brooking10 said:
Shiv_P said:
It's not really ridiculous. It's point and shoot. It's a small, and narrow car. I can imagine a lambo aventador or a 488 leads to having your eyes shut down most B roads.
TTRS has DSG, 4WD, accessible power, it's small, it's narrow, decent visibility.
Nailed itTTRS has DSG, 4WD, accessible power, it's small, it's narrow, decent visibility.
Two GT3s, a Huracan, a 570s, 2 R8’s and a 488 on the trip I mentioned earlier - the RS3 in the group was at least as quick in most sections.
Munched front tyres and brakes though
In theory this should tick so many boxes for me: fast, four seats, well made, usable all year round, doesn’t need to live in a dry garage, great engine with a great noise.
And yet there’s almost zero ‘want’ for one and I really don’t know why. Instead I find myself looking at 8 year old Lotuses....
Perhaps I actually need to try one.
And yet there’s almost zero ‘want’ for one and I really don’t know why. Instead I find myself looking at 8 year old Lotuses....
Perhaps I actually need to try one.
Brooking10 said:
Shiv_P said:
It's not really ridiculous. It's point and shoot. It's a small, and narrow car. I can imagine a lambo aventador or a 488 leads to having your eyes shut down most B roads.
TTRS has DSG, 4WD, accessible power, it's small, it's narrow, decent visibility.
Nailed itTTRS has DSG, 4WD, accessible power, it's small, it's narrow, decent visibility.
Two GT3s, a Huracan, a 570s, 2 R8’s and a 488 on the trip I mentioned earlier - the RS3 in the group was at least as quick in most sections.
Munched front tyres and brakes though
The latest Cup 2s on the gen 2 GT3s really are a remarkable tyre and perform incredibly on the road even in the wet. Traction and grip really would be light years ahead even with 4wd on th Audi/Golfs.
We have driven alongside the usual S3s, Golf Rs Audis etc etc and as you say the biggest issue with these cars is they soon get out of their depth even at road speeds and the net result is suspension brake and tyre limitations causing embarrasing failings in terms of cornering and premature wear to consumables.
Pushing any of these cars including the Audi on even the gentlest of tracks towards their limits would soon overcook the consumables especially tyres brakes which would melt in contrast to the more focused cars.
av185 said:
I get your point entirely but in terms of width restricting progress the GT3/GT2RS for example is only 12mm wider than the Audi so nothing really in it. Most Mclarens you know no doubt are not impeded width wise as well only the Aventadors and the like etc. 488 not too bad.
The latest Cup 2s on the gen 2 GT3s really are a remarkable tyre and perform incredibly on the road even in the wet. Traction and grip really would be light years ahead even with 4wd on th Audi/Golfs.
We have driven alongside the usual S3s, Golf Rs Audis etc etc and as you say the biggest issue with these cars is they soon get out of their depth even at road speeds and the net result is suspension brake and tyre limitations causing embarrasing failings in terms of cornering and premature wear to consumables.
Pushing any of these cars including the Audi on even the gentlest of tracks towards their limits would soon overcook the consumables especially tyres brakes which would melt in contrast to the more focused cars.
I agree that the more time close to the limit the less time they actually work.The latest Cup 2s on the gen 2 GT3s really are a remarkable tyre and perform incredibly on the road even in the wet. Traction and grip really would be light years ahead even with 4wd on th Audi/Golfs.
We have driven alongside the usual S3s, Golf Rs Audis etc etc and as you say the biggest issue with these cars is they soon get out of their depth even at road speeds and the net result is suspension brake and tyre limitations causing embarrasing failings in terms of cornering and premature wear to consumables.
Pushing any of these cars including the Audi on even the gentlest of tracks towards their limits would soon overcook the consumables especially tyres brakes which would melt in contrast to the more focused cars.
That those cats have the ability to touch such heights is though, to me at least, pretty impressive. P
I got the tyres on my big heavy AWD Merc to 94 degrees on the trip whereas on the Mac they didn’t go above mid sixties.
Agree the Cup 2s are brilliant when up to temp, I have them fitted, but they don’t like standing water much !!!
This, or the bog standard RS is top of my list to replace my TTS as a DD when the time comes.
You can always find one aspect where one car is better than another, but it's the overall package which will make the next one my 3rd. As a DD there are very few irritating features.
Rear seats have been mentioned, but they're largely useless for passengers, though that makes for quite a lot of luggage space. And is it wide? Compared to cars of similar performance, perhaps not, but I wouldn't call it slender, and it feels a bit bulky on rural routes imho.
I think I'd go for the least 'obvious' look I can.
You can always find one aspect where one car is better than another, but it's the overall package which will make the next one my 3rd. As a DD there are very few irritating features.
Rear seats have been mentioned, but they're largely useless for passengers, though that makes for quite a lot of luggage space. And is it wide? Compared to cars of similar performance, perhaps not, but I wouldn't call it slender, and it feels a bit bulky on rural routes imho.
I think I'd go for the least 'obvious' look I can.
av185 said:
wab172uk said:
Point to point on UK roads this car will be quicker than most supercars and X times the price.
Presumably you are talking about most 1970s supercars.Or do you have actual figures that can prove your rather ridiculous claim?
Most supercars are wide and low. A Hot Hatch or TT-RS are reasonably narrow and have decent ground clearance, which make them more suited to the UK B roads which as we know are not wide and smooth.
Yes, on wide sweeping A roads a supercar will be quicker (but not greatly) but on most UK roads, where the supercar driver will wince, back off or brake, the TT driver will have his foot down. Given the TTRS is 400bhp and AWD and can achieve 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times once reserved for the very quickest of supercars, the TT will show most cars the way home. Might not be the most fun car to achieve it it, but it will.
I used to own an R8 and on quite a few roads I took it on for some enthusiastic driving, I knew that given a decent hot hatch on the same road, I'd be quicker in the hot hatch.
av185 said:
I get your point entirely but in terms of width restricting progress the GT3/GT2RS for example is only 12mm wider than the Audi so nothing really in it. Most Mclarens you know no doubt are not impeded width wise as well only the Aventadors and the like etc. 488 not too bad.
The latest Cup 2s on the gen 2 GT3s really are a remarkable tyre and perform incredibly on the road even in the wet. Traction and grip really would be light years ahead even with 4wd on th Audi/Golfs.
We have driven alongside the usual S3s, Golf Rs Audis etc etc and as you say the biggest issue with these cars is they soon get out of their depth even at road speeds and the net result is suspension brake and tyre limitations causing embarrasing failings in terms of cornering and premature wear to consumables.
Pushing any of these cars including the Audi on even the gentlest of tracks towards their limits would soon overcook the consumables especially tyres brakes which would melt in contrast to the more focused cars.
Why is track coming into this?The latest Cup 2s on the gen 2 GT3s really are a remarkable tyre and perform incredibly on the road even in the wet. Traction and grip really would be light years ahead even with 4wd on th Audi/Golfs.
We have driven alongside the usual S3s, Golf Rs Audis etc etc and as you say the biggest issue with these cars is they soon get out of their depth even at road speeds and the net result is suspension brake and tyre limitations causing embarrasing failings in terms of cornering and premature wear to consumables.
Pushing any of these cars including the Audi on even the gentlest of tracks towards their limits would soon overcook the consumables especially tyres brakes which would melt in contrast to the more focused cars.
TTRS is available with CCB iirc
A novice and potentially a pro driver on a known or unknown piece of road I can guarantee would be as quick in a TTRS vs a GT3 RS. TTRS requires much less skill to drive at the same speed as a GT3 RS
Cup 2 are also available for TTRS. An S3 or Golf R is a different proposition mechanically to a TTRS or RS3.
yonex said:
Why are we talking about Porsche’s (again)? How is a GT3 in anyway in the same class to buy as a TT RS? I’m no Audi fan but this is the usual BS spouted by the fanatic.
Also ‘Aldi’ was an old joke 10 minutes after it was coined. It makes people sound a bit thick quoting it.
Also used in Aldi TT to deride Peugeot RCZ owners. Wasn't funny then, isn't funny now.Also ‘Aldi’ was an old joke 10 minutes after it was coined. It makes people sound a bit thick quoting it.
Shiv_P said:
av185 said:
wab172uk said:
Point to point on UK roads this car will be quicker than most supercars and X times the price.
Presumably you are talking about most 1970s supercars.Or do you have actual figures that can prove your rather ridiculous claim?
TTRS has DSG, 4WD, accessible power, it's small, it's narrow, decent visibility.
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