RE: Ultima reveals new 'RS' model
Discussion
markcoznottz said:
It's certainly fast of that there is no doubt. In the shots of the first run the front of the car looks extremely low, with a lot of negative camber dialled in as well. Loads more than you need in a fast road setup. No doubt they set the suspension to a track setting, but given the adjustability of the car maybe that's fair. Ultima says the car will clear speed bumps, but looking how close the front splitter is to the ground you'd have to take a pinch of salt with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL4q-3IeCS80:54
electronic lifting system on these cars
Really do like this.
Also: Have always wondered if there’s room for a(n even lighter) straight six or four banger starter model in the Ultima range. That would be ideal for me and also fits a gap in the current Sports Car market.
P.s. Does anyone have insight into lead times for a build and a kit at Ultima? And what kind of capacity is allowed for a low volume manufacturer?
Also: Have always wondered if there’s room for a(n even lighter) straight six or four banger starter model in the Ultima range. That would be ideal for me and also fits a gap in the current Sports Car market.
P.s. Does anyone have insight into lead times for a build and a kit at Ultima? And what kind of capacity is allowed for a low volume manufacturer?
Edited by Nerdherder on Monday 10th June 15:17
Nerdherder said:
Really do like this. Have always wondered if there’s room for a(n even lighter) straight six or fout banger model in the Ultima range. That would be ideal for me and also fits a gap in the current Sports Car market.
Does anyone have insight into lead times for a build and a kit at Ultima?
2+ years for factory build, 22 weeks for parts for self build on the new RSDoes anyone have insight into lead times for a build and a kit at Ultima?
Is this the answer to the cheapest 1000 bhp/tonne thread ?
60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
I think an older one with 300 odd bhp would do me, 1200 bhp is a bit like ordering some massive american burger challenge when you are really hungry having had a beer or two and then realising you have bitten off waaaay more than you can chew.
0-100 in 4.8 seconds for the fastest one, cant think of anything quicker.
60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
I think an older one with 300 odd bhp would do me, 1200 bhp is a bit like ordering some massive american burger challenge when you are really hungry having had a beer or two and then realising you have bitten off waaaay more than you can chew.
0-100 in 4.8 seconds for the fastest one, cant think of anything quicker.
WCZ said:
Nerdherder said:
Really do like this. Have always wondered if there’s room for a(n even lighter) straight six or fout banger model in the Ultima range. That would be ideal for me and also fits a gap in the current Sports Car market.
Does anyone have insight into lead times for a build and a kit at Ultima?
2+ years for factory build, 22 weeks for parts for self build on the new RSDoes anyone have insight into lead times for a build and a kit at Ultima?
WCZ said:
markcoznottz said:
It's certainly fast of that there is no doubt. In the shots of the first run the front of the car looks extremely low, with a lot of negative camber dialled in as well. Loads more than you need in a fast road setup. No doubt they set the suspension to a track setting, but given the adjustability of the car maybe that's fair. Ultima says the car will clear speed bumps, but looking how close the front splitter is to the ground you'd have to take a pinch of salt with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL4q-3IeCS80:54
electronic lifting system on these cars
J4CKO said:
Is this the answer to the cheapest 1000 bhp/tonne thread ?
60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
the rs has air conditioning, Leather/alcantara dashboard, Leather trimmed roll cage option, carpets, stereo/satnav with bluetooth, and suspension lifting system60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
all in all not so bad tbh
they are super raw cars without driver aids, helps to be a good driver and I think lots of modern ferrari owners would get a real shock at how much their car was doing for them in contrast!
J4CKO said:
60 ish grand arent they ?
Plus VAT unless the prices have dropped since I inquired about the Evo a couple of years ago? Not including the rear wing, forged wheels, air-con...[Edited] Maybe some reductions...looking at the pics I can see JW Speaker 7" headlights (as I have on my Defender) rather than the previous £1,500 triple headlight system.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 10th June 16:23
Nerdherder said:
Also: Have always wondered if there’s room for a(n even lighter) straight six or four banger starter model in the Ultima range. That would be ideal for me and also fits a gap in the current Sports Car market.
I guess that depends on how much weight and money that would save, as well as how available such an engine would be. Does anyone know costs or weights of the latest Corvette engine the Ultima RS uses?Incidentally, I'm not a fan of the car in white, but just look at it in black!
https://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Models/UltimaRSConf...
WCZ said:
J4CKO said:
Is this the answer to the cheapest 1000 bhp/tonne thread ?
60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
they are super raw cars without driver aids, helps to be a good driver and I think lots of modern ferrari owners would get a real shock at how much their car was doing for them in contrast!60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
Nerdherder said:
P.s. Does anyone have insight into lead times for a build and a kit at Ultima? And what kind of capacity is allowed for a low volume manufacturer?
This Autocar article is stating two years for a factory built car...https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/ultima...
If you had a decent garage it'd probably pay for most people to take 6 months off work and build it themselves from a kit
J4CKO said:
WCZ said:
J4CKO said:
Is this the answer to the cheapest 1000 bhp/tonne thread ?
60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
they are super raw cars without driver aids, helps to be a good driver and I think lots of modern ferrari owners would get a real shock at how much their car was doing for them in contrast!60 ish grand arent they ?
Sort of seems almost like a cut price, not original artists Mclaren F1, or the nearest mortals will get to it, looks a lot more than 60 grands worth.
What are they like to drive ? do they have air con and other basic creature comforts ?
Nerdherder said:
wondered if there’s room for a(n even lighter) straight six . That would be ideal for me and also fits a gap in the current Sports Car market.
Something like the 3.2 from the E46 M3 should be interesting, or a 3.8 flat 6 from a 997. Probably more expensive, less power & not much of a weight saving though?big_rob_sydney said:
Jex said:
Quickben said:
I'd have one of these as a track toy over almost anything.
I wouldn't - I'd then have no excuse for everyone overtaking me.The other thing worth noting is that the difference on a race track between a track focused car and a fast road car like a 911 or M3 is also enormous, probably bigger than many people might initially think (certainly me on my first track day). It almost felt like you'd stopped coming up behind an M3, RS4, Supra or similar.
Edited by RobM77 on Monday 10th June 16:33
RobM77 said:
Even with my comparatively puny 2-Eleven, track days consisted almost entirely of <catch someone, wait, overtake> repeat. You could have a more relaxing experience at a larger track or at an unpopular time (if it rains for example), or at Combe or Goodwood where you're only let on track a few at a time. At most trackdays though you were constantly catching people, and if you can't overtake in corners, then it's not the fast lapping experience you might think it is owning a car like that.
The other thing worth noting is that the difference on a race track between a track focused car and a fast road car like a 911 or M3 is also enormous, probably bigger than many people might initially think (certainly me on my first track day). It almost felt like you'd stopped coming up behind an M3, RS4, Supra or similar.
Interesting - my best track days have been at Goodwood with few cars. At Donington I had to spend a lot of time getting out of people's way.The other thing worth noting is that the difference on a race track between a track focused car and a fast road car like a 911 or M3 is also enormous, probably bigger than many people might initially think (certainly me on my first track day). It almost felt like you'd stopped coming up behind an M3, RS4, Supra or similar.
Edited by RobM77 on Monday 10th June 16:33
Jex said:
RobM77 said:
Even with my comparatively puny 2-Eleven, track days consisted almost entirely of <catch someone, wait, overtake> repeat. You could have a more relaxing experience at a larger track or at an unpopular time (if it rains for example), or at Combe or Goodwood where you're only let on track a few at a time. At most trackdays though you were constantly catching people, and if you can't overtake in corners, then it's not the fast lapping experience you might think it is owning a car like that.
The other thing worth noting is that the difference on a race track between a track focused car and a fast road car like a 911 or M3 is also enormous, probably bigger than many people might initially think (certainly me on my first track day). It almost felt like you'd stopped coming up behind an M3, RS4, Supra or similar.
Interesting - my best track days have been at Goodwood with few cars. At Donington I had to spend a lot of time getting out of people's way.The other thing worth noting is that the difference on a race track between a track focused car and a fast road car like a 911 or M3 is also enormous, probably bigger than many people might initially think (certainly me on my first track day). It almost felt like you'd stopped coming up behind an M3, RS4, Supra or similar.
Edited by RobM77 on Monday 10th June 16:33
I should have added that the answer to the above is to get a race license and go to test days instead; then you can overtake wherever you want, and nobody gets in your way or blocks you. You also get to keep the garage you've booked, rather than coming off track and finding someone in it constantly (which happened to me almost everywhere with the 2-Eleven). The only issue is that some circuits can be a bit funny about taking cars that aren't racing cars. One circuit wouldn't allow me to attend test days with my 2-Eleven, despite it having a proper roll bar, four point harnesses and me having a Nat A licence, and lapping comfortably faster than the average cars in the closed wheel sessions.
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