RE: DB4 GT Zagato Continuation gets Le Mans debut

[cayman-black]

So beautiful, so expensive.

[Andy83n]

Dave Hedgehog said:

so your avg plod is an expert in historic cars?

Plod finds out after Insurance Company do a VIN check against the insurance policy

[Cold]

Only 19 of these are being made so it's not like there will be lots and lots of rich people wandering around trying to figure out how and where to use their new car.

[Rocket.]

Stunning car but got to hand it to Aston Martin they are the kings of milking the st out of their brand....

How long before Ferrari start building some of their back catalogue

[Macboy]

Rocket. said:

Stunning car but got to hand it to Aston Martin they are the kings of milking the st out of their brand....

How long before Ferrari start building some of their back catalogue

Never. Because Ferrari are brand wh*res for merchandise but they retain some dignity and sense of the importance of their heritage unlike Aston Martin who are only one step away from offering death-masks of ex-Chairmen.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Not with you on that at all. I don't suppose you'd care to elaborate, or explain why any other automotive 'brand' is more or less 'naff' than anything else?

What a very strange comment.

[GranCab]

And Porsche don't do "naff" do they ?

E.g.

https://store.porsche.com/gb/en/Lifestyle/Clothing...


https://store.porsche.com/gb/en/Lifestyle/Accessor...

Edited by GranCab on Tuesday 11th June 14:03

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Is it Ferrari world, or Abu Dhabi that bothers you, or something else? I suggest that given that they don't make an SUV (yet), or have dumbed down their cars to a level where mortals can afford them makes them far less naff than many others.

How can a brand with the heritage that Ferrari have be 'naff'?

[GranCab]

They all do "naff" apart from Bristol ... and they went bust.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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I see.

Ferrari world might not be to your taste, but that’s how brands, and marketing work. Similarly your beloved Porsche will sell all manner of tat, to do the same. Is the Porsche experience ‘naff’ as well, Mercedes world, ‘naff’, in fact let’s throw in Brooklands and it’s association with Bentley shall we?

If you had any grasp of economics you’d understand why manufactures diversify and what branding, opposed to engineering, actually means. But clearly you’re not familiar with either, otherwise you’d realise every manufacturer is striving to do the same thing, extract money from punters.

I’m sure I’d be thinking a lot about the negativity of Ferrari World whilst enjoying a Ferrari

[anonymous-user]

GranCab said:

They all do "naff" apart from Bristol ... and they went bust.

Glad you raised that.

Bristol. A perfect example of selling a very average car as an elitist piece of automotive art. ‘Enigmatic’ I heard, but truly only for the eccentric. A chassis, in the Blenheim dating back to the 50’’s, sold against contemporary Aston’s costing far less and being more capable at everything. Well done Mr Crook, worked out swimmingly

[dinkel]

What you really want is drive this thing...

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Lots of words but nothing to read, well done!

Explain why Ferrari are more ‘naff’ than any other manufacturer , branding or otherwise.

You can’t, hence the childish responses. As usual.

anonymous said:

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That’s what you wrote. Justify it, that’s all I’m asking.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 11th June 15:39

[thegreenhell]

Typical PH - a few comments about the subject of the article, and then endless boring bickering about a completely different brand that has nothing to do with it.

[runnerbean 14]

Pretty car, but I'm not convinced that, in comparison with the original, they've got the shape of the grille aperture quite correct.

Perhaps Zagato themselves would have done a better job?

Having said that, it seems no two cars of the original 19 were exactly alike, anyway.

Edited by runnerbean 14 on Tuesday 11th June 17:20

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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Why I don't feel Ferrari is 'naff'

• They are a keen competitor in F1
• Enzo Ferrari, as a racer and visionary for the business has my utmost respect
• Many cars, F40, 250GTO, 512BB, too many to mention quite frankly
• As a company still producing the most evocative of vehicles, an aspirational brand

The issue is, you make a comment which derails the thread, because, well that's what you do, then when asked a simple question 'why', start throwing out the childish insults and have a little 'journo' flounce, bless. I know you can't be like this in real life, so perhaps you should dial down your 'internet persona' and do everyone a huge favour.

If you have an answer to why, I would be interested, but if you are going to act like this, just feck off.

[thegreenhell]

Is there any chance that you could go and start an 'Are Ferrari Naff?' thread somewhere else, so other people can discuss Aston Martins?

[Nerdherder]

This is hardcore car p^&n.
Shame its not roadworthy, but oh well.

[WJNB]

Is it:
A. A continuation?
B. An evocation?
C. A replica?
If the latter will it feature in Kit Car & Replica magazine?

[thegreenhell]

WJNB said:

Is it:
A. A continuation?
B. An evocation?
C. A replica?
If the latter will it feature in Kit Car & Replica magazine?

Using the original, literal sense of the word, it's a replica; that is, a duplicate copy of an original work by the original artist. However, using more modern definitions as applied specifically to cars, it's more of a continuation. It's definitely not an evocation, which is literally something that evokes the sense or appearance of something without having the substance or exactness of an original.