RE: All-new Mk2 Ford Escort in development
Discussion
jamesson said:
AW10 said:
But presumably no chance of getting it road registered?
The article said:
one tested to IVA requirements so it can be registered for road use.
Mogul said:
PATTERNPART said:
It makes a perfect fairly cheap to run rear wheel drive clubmans rally car that anyone with a bit of practice can drift round a gravel bend. Not bad for tarmac sprints and hillclimbs either. All sorts of engines go more or less straight in. Fun to drive. Perfect wheelbase to track ratio for predictable handling. Light. Easily repaired. Accessories and upgrades very cheap off the shelf. Colin McRae had one in ultimate spec for fun. Pretty safe with petrol tank in the boot as opposed to hatchbacks. Heated windscreens available. Carbon fibre panels available. RX8 gearboxes go in. They can be rebuilt over and over again (eco friendly). They can be converted from LHD to RHD fairly easily. Power steering bolts on if you want it. They look cool. They make nice noises. They are a bit common compared to their rivals back in the late 70's and early 80's though.
Reminds me of the question: What did the Romans ever do for us?These are seriously cool, but I would also want a Giulia 105 series in my life.
Cooking in old parlance was the warmed up version of a car . Many did "cooking" versions of cars it was a discription. Brabham Vivas were the cooking version of a Viva , Lumo did cooking versions of Capris , the Cooper and Cooper S were the cooking versions of minis .
As for the great handling of the MK2 , the modern developed versions certainly do handle pretty well .
They certainly weren't the best back in the day , they required a lot of stiffness adding to the shells to give a stable platform . They became very popular and had loads of development work for competition. Things like the Avenger, Chevette and Viva/Firenza were better base cars but were never developed as much and were nowhere near as popular.
300+ bhp in a sub 1000kg package that is very controlable on tarmac make them still very competitive on smooth surface events .
As for the great handling of the MK2 , the modern developed versions certainly do handle pretty well .
They certainly weren't the best back in the day , they required a lot of stiffness adding to the shells to give a stable platform . They became very popular and had loads of development work for competition. Things like the Avenger, Chevette and Viva/Firenza were better base cars but were never developed as much and were nowhere near as popular.
300+ bhp in a sub 1000kg package that is very controlable on tarmac make them still very competitive on smooth surface events .
AMGSee55 said:
Mogul said:
PATTERNPART said:
It makes a perfect fairly cheap to run rear wheel drive clubmans rally car that anyone with a bit of practice can drift round a gravel bend. Not bad for tarmac sprints and hillclimbs either. All sorts of engines go more or less straight in. Fun to drive. Perfect wheelbase to track ratio for predictable handling. Light. Easily repaired. Accessories and upgrades very cheap off the shelf. Colin McRae had one in ultimate spec for fun. Pretty safe with petrol tank in the boot as opposed to hatchbacks. Heated windscreens available. Carbon fibre panels available. RX8 gearboxes go in. They can be rebuilt over and over again (eco friendly). They can be converted from LHD to RHD fairly easily. Power steering bolts on if you want it. They look cool. They make nice noises. They are a bit common compared to their rivals back in the late 70's and early 80's though.
Reminds me of the question: What did the Romans ever do for us?These are seriously cool, but I would also want a Giulia 105 series in my life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYw1UzIoHHw
...with such aplomb?
grumpy52 said:
Cooking in old parlance was the warmed up version of a car.
I always thought cooking meant ordinary/standard/base model. ie the 1.3L’s and GL’s were the cooking models of the Escort range. Like cooking wine. Or cooking lager (4% - not premium).phil_cardiff said:
Drove a 1600 at a rally school and have been in love ever since. So easy to take up to the limit, over, then back again.
Phil Price used to run Mk2s at his rally school. Loads of sideways fun at sensible speeds Blackpuddin said:
grumpy52 said:
Cooking in old parlance was the warmed up version of a car.
It really wasn't, honestly. It's the basic or ordinary version. grumpy52 said:
Cooking in old parlance was the warmed up version of a car . Many did "cooking" versions of cars it was a discription. Brabham Vivas were the cooking version of a Viva , Lumo did cooking versions of Capris , the Cooper and Cooper S were the cooking versions of minis .
As for the great handling of the MK2 , the modern developed versions certainly do handle pretty well .
They certainly weren't the best back in the day , they required a lot of stiffness adding to the shells to give a stable platform . They became very popular and had loads of development work for competition. Things like the Avenger, Chevette and Viva/Firenza were better base cars but were never developed as much and were nowhere near as popular.
300+ bhp in a sub 1000kg package that is very controlable on tarmac make them still very competitive on smooth surface events .
Nope, ‘cooking’ is the base model. Derived from when people used to/still do use cheap wine for cooking.As for the great handling of the MK2 , the modern developed versions certainly do handle pretty well .
They certainly weren't the best back in the day , they required a lot of stiffness adding to the shells to give a stable platform . They became very popular and had loads of development work for competition. Things like the Avenger, Chevette and Viva/Firenza were better base cars but were never developed as much and were nowhere near as popular.
300+ bhp in a sub 1000kg package that is very controlable on tarmac make them still very competitive on smooth surface events .
And more on topic (me, not you) I was at Barbon hillclimb at the weekend where a Sunbeam (I think a Ti, albeit fully prepped) annihilated all the saloons. Escorts are brilliant, I love them, but value for money wise a Sunbeam is the way to go (in my opinion of course)
RumbleOfThunder said:
Water Fairy said:
Cupramax said:
PH said:
Cooking versions of the rear-driven coupe are widely acknowledged as some of the Blue Oval’s finest driving machines
Who writes this bks? its a two door saloon, not a coupe.Ahonen said:
AMGSee55 said:
Mogul said:
PATTERNPART said:
It makes a perfect fairly cheap to run rear wheel drive clubmans rally car that anyone with a bit of practice can drift round a gravel bend. Not bad for tarmac sprints and hillclimbs either. All sorts of engines go more or less straight in. Fun to drive. Perfect wheelbase to track ratio for predictable handling. Light. Easily repaired. Accessories and upgrades very cheap off the shelf. Colin McRae had one in ultimate spec for fun. Pretty safe with petrol tank in the boot as opposed to hatchbacks. Heated windscreens available. Carbon fibre panels available. RX8 gearboxes go in. They can be rebuilt over and over again (eco friendly). They can be converted from LHD to RHD fairly easily. Power steering bolts on if you want it. They look cool. They make nice noises. They are a bit common compared to their rivals back in the late 70's and early 80's though.
Reminds me of the question: What did the Romans ever do for us?These are seriously cool, but I would also want a Giulia 105 series in my life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYw1UzIoHHw
...with such aplomb?
Also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwl40XFvpLE
fttm said:
Where are MotorsportTools sourcing the shells , are they the Chinese ones ?
I'd like to see someone build and import shells for less than £5k and then you have to build them up at home and just register them as a kit car - source all the mechanical bits yourself and chose whatever engine you fancy - is that possible in todays over-legislated world?I'd have a high revving Jap twin cam engine and 6 speed box, mated to an LSD axle, disks all round, electric PAS, Omex ECU, custom wiring loom, the brakes suspension etc all available from motorsport specialists, interior just needs 2 competition seats, minimal dash.
I learnt to drive in a crappy 1.1 Mk2 escort but had some fun with 1600cc and RS 2000 models before they all became rust buckets.
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