RE: TVR finally hurdles factory delay

RE: TVR finally hurdles factory delay

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Esceptico

7,467 posts

109 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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CS Garth said:
Jesus Christ if Les is reading this dross he may as well pack up and go home - what a load of half arsed negative crap from a load of down trodden victims of life.

Do any of you ever have the tenacity and guts to see anything through or do you all just atrophy on your sofa shovelling processed food down your gullets watching fking Netflix drooling over your Facebook feed filled fking fones??!!

On that basis I’ll be bucking the trend. Good luck to them and I hope it gets some jobs into the local communities in this current climate.

To all those opposed? Hmmm.....well?!
Thanks for the Ad hominem attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Wanting this project to succeed and recognising that the chances of success are pretty low are not the same and enthusiasm for the former isn’t going to blind my eyes to the latter.

Pit Pony

8,557 posts

121 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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unsprung said:
ChocolateFrog said:
In no way a sports car though.
Indeed. In participating on PH, I've been informed numerous times that almost any car I've ever owned, driven, or wanted to buy is most emphatically not a sports car. Truly astonishing.
It's not what you drive it's how YOU feel.




CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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ecs0set said:
CS Garth said:
To all those opposed? Hmmm.....well?!
GnR man! music
Glad someone got it!!!!

CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Esceptico said:
Thanks for the Ad hominem attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Wanting this project to succeed and recognising that the chances of success are pretty low are not the same and enthusiasm for the former isn’t going to blind my eyes to the latter.
Sometimes it’s just refreshing to play the man and not the ball wink

jasonpaul

164 posts

162 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Well it has taken sooo long it’s out of date before being produced, I nearly put a deposit down glad I didn’t sorry but still not sure on the looks. I do hope TVR get it together I did have one a fair few years ago when they were still in business.

Venisonpie

3,272 posts

82 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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jasonpaul said:
Well it has taken sooo long it’s out of date before being produced, I nearly put a deposit down glad I didn’t sorry but still not sure on the looks. I do hope TVR get it together I did have one a fair few years ago when they were still in business.
Sadly I think you're right, however - does it matter? Do the raw ingredients stack up enough to still make it desirable to those who want a V8 manual hairy sports coupe? It's not for me but maybe enough for those who do.

Byker28i

59,804 posts

217 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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As soon as this is seen hooning around the top gear/Grand tour track and performing well, then it'll have a following.
Good news about the factory, should stop the moaners and doubters saying there's been no news.

Alex_6n2

328 posts

199 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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It's going to take them 4 years to sort that building out

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Just compare with the Aston SUV. Also starting production next year. Arguably, Aston appears to be a lot further forward with development.

I see very little from TVR in terms of development activity which doesn’t bode well.

ChocolateFrog

25,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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CS Garth said:
Jesus Christ if Les is reading this dross he may as well pack up and go home - what a load of half arsed negative crap from a load of down trodden victims of life.

Do any of you ever have the tenacity and guts to see anything through or do you all just atrophy on your sofa shovelling processed food down your gullets watching fking Netflix drooling over your Facebook feed filled fking fones??!!

On that basis I’ll be bucking the trend. Good luck to them and I hope it gets some jobs into the local communities in this current climate.

To all those opposed? Hmmm.....well?!
So you're buying one then?

ChocolateFrog

25,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Pit Pony said:
unsprung said:
ChocolateFrog said:
In no way a sports car though.
Indeed. In participating on PH, I've been informed numerous times that almost any car I've ever owned, driven, or wanted to buy is most emphatically not a sports car. Truly astonishing.
It's not what you drive it's how YOU feel.
It also wasn't an insult so I wouldn't take it personally.

Equus

16,884 posts

101 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Alex_6n2 said:
It's going to take them 4 years to sort that building out
In mid-March 2002, a fire pretty much completely destroyed the Triumph Motorcycles factory at Hinckley.

They had fully rebuilt it and were back in production by September.

Admittedly, John Bloor knows his arse from his elbow, and then some - especially with regard to building things.

ChocolateFrog

25,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Does anyone know with all the faff around the EU wide tender if they went with the original local company anyway?


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Equus said:
In mid-March 2002, a fire pretty much completely destroyed the Triumph Motorcycles factory at Hinckley.

They had fully rebuilt it and were back in production by September.

Admittedly, John Bloor knows his arse from his elbow, and then some - especially with regard to building things.
It destroyed a going concern and they rebuilt a factory. It's so similar to a new company producing a brand new car, in a brand new building with no production rolleyes

CupMeister

33 posts

125 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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I hope they get it right, I do quite like TVR despite all the old quality issues. Plus being Welsh, Ebbw Vale could do with a boost, not really a lot going on up there since the steel works closed. Trouble is the car industry moves so fast, and this car was meant to be launched in 2017, I just hope its not already out of date by the time they get production cars to market....

Equus

16,884 posts

101 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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yonex said:
It destroyed a going concern and they rebuilt a factory. It's so similar to a new company producing a brand new car, in a brand new building with no production rolleyes
The comment was about how long it would take to sort the building out. Whether the company is a going concern or not has no direct relevance to how long a building takes to build or refurbish. The Triumph factory was effectively completely destroyed. The new factory was a new design, which went through planning from scratch.

You would need to be spectacularly incompetent to take 4 years from tender to completion on a typical modern factory unit.

...So admittedly, it's not impossible, with Edgar at the helm.


C7 JFW

1,205 posts

219 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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I really, REALLY hope it'll happen for them.

But they need some real stars working for them to move this along.

It must be worth mentioning though, that if Toyota found it extremely difficult to build the Supra, just imagine what TVR are going through.

jgtv

2,125 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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I really hope it happens, I really do not just for TVR but for the fact that it will create jobs and stuff in the area.

I am not in the market for one, but you never know one day, I do think the timescale mentioned is unfortunately going to be miles off and unfortunately they will have missed the boat.

People are complaining about the Supra, but without BMW there would be no Supra or Z4, it's just that complicated to get a car through the hoops these days especially a sports/toy car.

This isn't the good old days when you can just chuck a V8 innit and tell people try not to die.

borat52

564 posts

208 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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C7 JFW said:
I really, REALLY hope it'll happen for them.

But they need some real stars working for them to move this along.

It must be worth mentioning though, that if Toyota found it extremely difficult to build the Supra, just imagine what TVR are going through.
The "Supra" was easy, take a Z4, change the exterior, leave all the BMW badges on the inside and lose a bit of power and away we go. It's a Celica as I see it not a Supra.

Wacky Racer

38,160 posts

247 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Equus said:
Alex_6n2 said:
It's going to take them 4 years to sort that building out
In mid-March 2002, a fire pretty much completely destroyed the Triumph Motorcycles factory at Hinckley.

They had fully rebuilt it and were back in production by September.

Admittedly, John Bloor knows his arse from his elbow, and then some - especially with regard to building things.
John Bloor was/is a multi-millionaire builder.