RE: Aston Martin kicks off production at St Athan
Discussion
As with the popularity of the X-Factor, Britain's got Talent, and Love Island, the idiotic masses that are the general public can be blamed for the rise in popularity of the SUV. Sharon wants a car that has a nice high driving position in which to drive down to the salon, and Wayne wants a car that shows he's well 'ard and to show off that he's done well from his plastering business. He also likes Bond, although he keeps getting Bond wrong, so perhaps an Aston SUV, complete with 007 numberplate, will suit him down to the ground.
LordGrover said:
'Red with jealousy'?
Green with envy.
Indeed. Or perhaps more appositely, red with embarrassment, which is perhaps more appropriate when your poor showing is entirely down to factors within your own control.Green with envy.
richs2891 said:
I am surprised that the SUV craze is still going strong, I though it would have started to die off
As stated above, fashion kicked it off but the practical advantages made the SUV stick. The trade-offs in performance, economy, ride and handling were less important given that cars have become so competent at these things anyway. However with efficiency becoming critical again, we may well see SUVs morph back towards more normal cars with lower roofs to reduce aero drag, and lighter platforms to reduce power requirements.Triumph Man said:
As with the popularity of the X-Factor, Britain's got Talent, and Love Island, the idiotic masses that are the general public can be blamed for the rise in popularity of the SUV. Sharon wants a car that has a nice high driving position in which to drive down to the salon, and Wayne wants a car that shows he's well 'ard and to show off that he's done well from his plastering business. He also likes Bond, although he keeps getting Bond wrong, so perhaps an Aston SUV, complete with 007 numberplate, will suit him down to the ground.
Just a little bit patronisingTriumph Man said:
As with the popularity of the X-Factor, Britain's got Talent, and Love Island, the idiotic masses that are the general public can be blamed for the rise in popularity of the SUV. Sharon wants a car that has a nice high driving position in which to drive down to the salon, and Wayne wants a car that shows he's well 'ard and to show off that he's done well from his plastering business. He also likes Bond, although he keeps getting Bond wrong, so perhaps an Aston SUV, complete with 007 numberplate, will suit him down to the ground.
For as long as there have been internet forums, there has been freedom of speech, and freedom to express a viewpoint. There's the freedom to cast aspersions on people you've never met, and of course when they call you out on it, you merely say it's just your 'opinion'.What I've seen of the DBX, I quite like, and I quite like Astons, so I'm giving consideration to maybe buying one. Of course that makes me one of the people you're describing. I do like my Bond films yes, but I also like driving 4000 horsepower race cars that run on liquid explosive and have zero driver aids. So I guess yes, to an extent, I'm well 'ard as you put it. Either way, I'm not called Wayne, nor Sharon, and I'm not a plasterer.
Just because you aren't keen on it, it doesn't mean others aren't - and it sure as s
t means assumptions about the type of people who'd buy one, you're somewhat wide of the mark with.Fully understand why Aston need an SUV and if it keeps them in business for longer then I'm all for it. However to coin a phrase from James May, it really is Gopping... That face/nose... The grille just looks awful, it does not suit the shape of the car at all. Maybe it will look better in a decent colour?
B17NNS said:
They could have given us something different, something challenging, something achingly cool. Genuinely knocked it out of the park.
But no, they give us an ugly generic blob of a high riding hatchback with an Aston grille stuck on.
Piss poor doesn’t come close.
In fairness though at this point they need a safe bet, a sure thing, not to take a risk on a trendsetter. But no, they give us an ugly generic blob of a high riding hatchback with an Aston grille stuck on.
Piss poor doesn’t come close.
I don’t like the looks of the car but then I don’t like a single SUV aesthetically*, and I’m not the target customer. They needed an Aston SUV - this is about as much of a tickbox Aston SUV as you can get so, mission accomplished? Don’t take risks, just make the product the customer expects.
My concern for them is that luxury SUVs seem to sell purely on image rather than any actual qualities, and I don’t understand the market to appreciate what makes a desirable SUV - and since this is their first, nor does Aston. Let’s hope they get it right...
- Except the Velar, which looks like a Range Rover from a sci fi movie set 10 years from now
Many are not fans of suvs, its down to choice. Ive had a mix of hatches, saloons to estates.
Im now in a merc glc to scratch the itch, based on a florida trip and enjoying the kia suv i got as a hire car. So far 2500 miles in 6 weeks and its easy driving and more relaxing. Why? Visibility is easier, cars are kitted out to park easier, and they ride the potholes that are everywhere in this country now so much easier.
Astons attempt looks like a cross between a audi q2 and a vw t-cross. It will undoubtedly have the power, but it looks dull as dishwater, and on the outside looking very dated. So unlike their sports models.If this is the production in 2020, its going to be surpassed very very quickly. Shame as the brand is iconic, im sceptical theyll be able to cope with the changes other marques are bringing.
Im now in a merc glc to scratch the itch, based on a florida trip and enjoying the kia suv i got as a hire car. So far 2500 miles in 6 weeks and its easy driving and more relaxing. Why? Visibility is easier, cars are kitted out to park easier, and they ride the potholes that are everywhere in this country now so much easier.
Astons attempt looks like a cross between a audi q2 and a vw t-cross. It will undoubtedly have the power, but it looks dull as dishwater, and on the outside looking very dated. So unlike their sports models.If this is the production in 2020, its going to be surpassed very very quickly. Shame as the brand is iconic, im sceptical theyll be able to cope with the changes other marques are bringing.
good luck to them I say - I look forward to as many UK car companies succeeding on the world stage in a post brexit world and the SUV will be key to that for AML I suspect !
On a separate note, one wonders if in the next 3-4 years there will be spare capacity closer to their facility at Gaydon ;-)
We are going to see a lot of redundant car factories available for any future expansion I fear.
On a separate note, one wonders if in the next 3-4 years there will be spare capacity closer to their facility at Gaydon ;-)
We are going to see a lot of redundant car factories available for any future expansion I fear.
Edited by oilit on Thursday 13th June 08:03
NFC 85 Vette said:
Triumph Man said:
As with the popularity of the X-Factor, Britain's got Talent, and Love Island, the idiotic masses that are the general public can be blamed for the rise in popularity of the SUV. Sharon wants a car that has a nice high driving position in which to drive down to the salon, and Wayne wants a car that shows he's well 'ard and to show off that he's done well from his plastering business. He also likes Bond, although he keeps getting Bond wrong, so perhaps an Aston SUV, complete with 007 numberplate, will suit him down to the ground.
For as long as there have been internet forums, there has been freedom of speech, and freedom to express a viewpoint. There's the freedom to cast aspersions on people you've never met, and of course when they call you out on it, you merely say it's just your 'opinion'.What I've seen of the DBX, I quite like, and I quite like Astons, so I'm giving consideration to maybe buying one. Of course that makes me one of the people you're describing. I do like my Bond films yes, but I also like driving 4000 horsepower race cars that run on liquid explosive and have zero driver aids. So I guess yes, to an extent, I'm well 'ard as you put it. Either way, I'm not called Wayne, nor Sharon, and I'm not a plasterer.
Just because you aren't keen on it, it doesn't mean others aren't - and it sure as s
t means assumptions about the type of people who'd buy one, you're somewhat wide of the mark with.I was probably having a bad day, which is no excuse really. Your 4000 horsepower racing cars sound intriguing!
ETA: For the record I don't have anything against plasterers.
Edited by Triumph Man on Thursday 13th June 09:02
Edited by Triumph Man on Thursday 13th June 11:31
simon-tigjs said:
Im sure Aston will find an incredibly loyal and grateful workforce, following the disastrous Ford News. Its a bit ironic Aston can invest in an electric future when we really needed Ford to do the same. GB plc goes from from a major automotive giant yet again to picking up the pieces. I remember when the demise of Rover devastated the West Midlands. Sunderland Derby and now South Wales look like the same fate awaits.Ugly or not, I bet Wales is grateful for the lifeline. I wish it well. What we really need is investment in Fuel cells to lead the world again and have them beating a path back to our door.
Haha those days are gone. 
Triumph Man said:
You know what, you're right. It was my opinion but clearly a rash and ill thought out one, and I apologise for being a knob.
I was probably having a bad day, which is no excuse really. Your 4000 horsepower racing cars sound intriguing!
ETA: For the record I don't have anything against plasterers.
Worry not, it's all gravy I was probably having a bad day, which is no excuse really. Your 4000 horsepower racing cars sound intriguing!
ETA: For the record I don't have anything against plasterers.
Old banger thread running here
Mr-B said:
Anyone thinking that Brexit is not to blame for this is being naive.
No that's not right is it, oh never mind.
Don't like SUV's but if it keeps Aston going for another 100 years then it'll be worth it.
It should help Aston stay afloat, but before everyone wraps themselves in a Union Jack and humming the Bond theme about this being all because of British know how and financing the redevelopment money in that area was EU funded, which answers why TVR( now Aston )got a Welsh car industry built in a place that never had one instead of doing it in the midlands like everyone else. No that's not right is it, oh never mind.
Don't like SUV's but if it keeps Aston going for another 100 years then it'll be worth it.
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B17NNS said:
They could have given us something different, something challenging, something achingly cool. Genuinely knocked it out of the park.
But no, they give us an ugly generic blob of a high riding hatchback with an Aston grille stuck on.
Piss poor doesn’t come close.
Top one is a Lagonda concept planned for the future.But no, they give us an ugly generic blob of a high riding hatchback with an Aston grille stuck on.
Piss poor doesn’t come close.
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