RE: Driving the Porsche 935 at Goodwood

RE: Driving the Porsche 935 at Goodwood

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nickfrog

20,872 posts

216 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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je777 said:
Chapeau to Porsche for fleecing those willing to splurge that much money on a pastiche that looks as much like the real thing as an MR2-Ferrari does.
More posts like this please: entertaining, albeit accidentally.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Nerdherder said:
What a thing and experience! Thank you for sharing.

Do wonder what an RSR costs..
700k euros

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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gigglebug said:
Maldini35 said:
I’m normally a Porsche fan but I really struggle to like this.
It just looks so big and clumsy compared to the original or even the gorgeous GT2 it’s based upon.
Feels most un-Porsche like to me.




For me there are a few obvious things that help to contribute to the original looking more elegant: firstly the rear overhang on the original is far larger proportionally than the tributes which makes a difference to the overall balance, the nose of the new car is blunt instrument in comparison and lastly the waistlines are completely different when comparing the original to modern car. The glass house of the original looks to make up near enough 50% of it's height where as with the tribute it is a lot less than that.

I don't think that it should be surprise to anyone that the modern iteration doesn't look exactly the same as the original, it is just a tribute after all and a lot of the final result has been dictated purely by the fact that they are using a car that is separated by 30 odd years from it's inspiration as a base.
Surprisingly it's looks have grown on me quite a bit since it was first revealed. I agree about the nose though; it looks like a standard road car compared to the 'snow plough' of the original which doesn't balance the rear overhang at all. I love the original for what it is but IMO it's no looker either. I wonder how it stacks up against a Senna on slicks?

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 8th July 14:11

gigglebug

2,611 posts

121 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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fblm said:
700k euros
Do you think that they still get cheeky requests to have a handbrake installed on the cars by owners wishing to use them on road?

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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je777 said:
Chapeau to Porsche for fleecing those willing to splurge that much money on a pastiche that looks as much like the real thing as an MR2-Ferrari does.
Or doing business, as the adults call it.

shantybeater

1,192 posts

168 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Love it, well done to Porsche for keeping the flame alive for the excited kid still hiding inside of us.

WJNB

2,637 posts

160 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Respect for some skilled driving & to think the first FoS (aimed at car lovers not corporate suits) just had rope at the trackside - no straw bales then !

Dodgey_Rog

1,986 posts

259 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Ahonen said:
Turbobanana said:
Pierre-kma6q said:
Very nice, but the 935 that won Le Mans in 1979 was not a ‘Moby Dick’ version.
Indeed it wasn't, as 2 minutes of Google research confirms. The Whittington brothers (interesting characters...) and Klaus Ludwig drove a 935/77A: Moby Dick was a 935/78.
Yes, the Whittingtons were a bit interesting! There were quite a few interesting types racing in the States in the '70s and '80s. The winning car from LM in '79 was a Kremer-modified 935 K3, which looks like this:



Yet again PH can't be bothered to get the facts right but won't correct themselves or apologise for looking like clowns. Simple facts about things like car types or the correct spelling of the names of drivers they're touching themselves over are deemed completely irrelevant. It's like they do it deliberately, like that fabulous West End show The Play that Goes Wrong.
The pictures of this car never did it justice, I was hooked on the story of the Whittingtons and the car in question. So much so, I found myself in LA recently and spent a morning drooling over this car at the Petersen Museum, to see it in the flesh is something else. The 935 concept is a tribute I thought, and as a modern interpretation, I think they did a great job. I was hoping we would see this style of racing car back at Le Mans, but I doubt it.

Ahonen

5,015 posts

278 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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gigglebug said:




For me there are a few obvious things that help to contribute to the original looking more elegant: firstly the rear overhang on the original is far larger proportionally than the tributes which makes a difference to the overall balance, the nose of the new car is blunt instrument in comparison and lastly the waistlines are completely different when comparing the original to modern car. The glass house of the original looks to make up near enough 50% of it's height where as with the tribute it is a lot less than that.

I don't think that it should be surprise to anyone that the modern iteration doesn't look exactly the same as the original, it is just a tribute after all and a lot of the final result has been dictated purely by the fact that they are using a car that is separated by 30 odd years from it's inspiration as a base.
I'm not convinced it was originally conceived as a Moby Dick homage. It looks far more like the 935/77 to me and other fans of the old Group 5 era:



They are also making 77 of them, which ties into the 935/77 theory. The rear view is also quite similar. I wonder if someone in the marketing department got a bit carried away...


Edited by Ahonen on Monday 8th July 21:55

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Dodgey_Rog said:
I was hoping we would see this style of racing car back at Le Mans, but I doubt it.
I was thinking it might fit the new Hyper Sport class? Hard to see Porsche not having an entry; the 'new' 917 maybe? Drool...

PGNSagaris

2,926 posts

165 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Magnificent thing. Bravo Porsche.

Enjoyed the article too.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

121 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Ahonen said:
I'm not convinced it was originally conceived as a Moby Dick homage. It looks far more like the 935/77 to me and other fans of the old Group 5 era:



They are also making 77 of them, which ties into the 935/77 theory. The rear view is also quite similar. I wonder if someone in the marketing department got a bit carried away...


Edited by Ahonen on Monday 8th July 21:55
Thank you for that.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Dodgey_Rog said:
Ahonen said:
Turbobanana said:
Pierre-kma6q said:
Very nice, but the 935 that won Le Mans in 1979 was not a ‘Moby Dick’ version.
Indeed it wasn't, as 2 minutes of Google research confirms. The Whittington brothers (interesting characters...) and Klaus Ludwig drove a 935/77A: Moby Dick was a 935/78.
Yes, the Whittingtons were a bit interesting! There were quite a few interesting types racing in the States in the '70s and '80s. The winning car from LM in '79 was a Kremer-modified 935 K3, which looks like this:



Yet again PH can't be bothered to get the facts right but won't correct themselves or apologise for looking like clowns. Simple facts about things like car types or the correct spelling of the names of drivers they're touching themselves over are deemed completely irrelevant. It's like they do it deliberately, like that fabulous West End show The Play that Goes Wrong.
The pictures of this car never did it justice, I was hooked on the story of the Whittingtons and the car in question. So much so, I found myself in LA recently and spent a morning drooling over this car at the Petersen Museum, to see it in the flesh is something else. The 935 concept is a tribute I thought, and as a modern interpretation, I think they did a great job. I was hoping we would see this style of racing car back at Le Mans, but I doubt it.
I, ahem know of a Porsche nut who used to do a nice sideline in hooky copies of Moby And The Warhorse Gang DVDs back in the day...

https://youtu.be/P-KwzOmeyWY

MCBrowncoat

864 posts

145 months

Monday 8th July 2019
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Ahonen said:
gigglebug said:




For me there are a few obvious things that help to contribute to the original looking more elegant: firstly the rear overhang on the original is far larger proportionally than the tributes which makes a difference to the overall balance, the nose of the new car is blunt instrument in comparison and lastly the waistlines are completely different when comparing the original to modern car. The glass house of the original looks to make up near enough 50% of it's height where as with the tribute it is a lot less than that.

I don't think that it should be surprise to anyone that the modern iteration doesn't look exactly the same as the original, it is just a tribute after all and a lot of the final result has been dictated purely by the fact that they are using a car that is separated by 30 odd years from it's inspiration as a base.
I'm not convinced it was originally conceived as a Moby Dick homage. It looks far more like the 935/77 to me and other fans of the old Group 5 era:



They are also making 77 of them, which ties into the 935/77 theory. The rear view is also quite similar. I wonder if someone in the marketing department got a bit carried away...


Edited by Ahonen on Monday 8th July 21:55
Mind blown....

635csi

125 posts

170 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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935s were THE sports racer when i was a lad.

K
K K Turbolader !

sledge68

749 posts

196 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Makes me wonder if the comment is that inconsequential, why make it?

je777 said:
Look at all the people whose egos are so fragile they can’t read something as inconsequential as a comment about a car without working themselves into a lather.

Pathetic that any opportunity to make yourself feel like ‘a big man’ by insulting a stranger is leapt upon.

Feel free to have another go, I won't be reading it and - and this is a point you should bear in mind more often - nobody cares.

isaldiri

18,411 posts

167 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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fblm said:
Nerdherder said:
What a thing and experience! Thank you for sharing.

Do wonder what an RSR costs..
700k euros
Er unless you're getting a discount, that is rather too low afaik about the cost of the 991rsr unless the new car has been very significantly priced lower than the last one.

stats007

531 posts

234 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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Simonium said:
Or doing business, as the adults call it.
spin


anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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isaldiri said:
fblm said:
Nerdherder said:
What a thing and experience! Thank you for sharing.

Do wonder what an RSR costs..
700k euros
Er unless you're getting a discount, that is rather too low afaik about the cost of the 991rsr unless the new car has been very significantly priced lower than the last one.
Good catch. I asked a friend who has several RSR's during LeMans. I don't know where I got 700 from, 800-900 euro + tax was the real answer. beer

Dodgey_Rog

1,986 posts

259 months

Tuesday 9th July 2019
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fblm said:
isaldiri said:
fblm said:
Nerdherder said:
What a thing and experience! Thank you for sharing.

Do wonder what an RSR costs..
700k euros
Er unless you're getting a discount, that is rather too low afaik about the cost of the 991rsr unless the new car has been very significantly priced lower than the last one.
Good catch. I asked a friend who has several RSR's during LeMans. I don't know where I got 700 from, 800-900 euro + tax was the real answer. beer
I think the number of $800k was touted as there was a racing car website that offered a build slot for one of them, whether it actually existing is another story, probably merely speculation, it promptly disappeared but there is reference to it, just a dead link now, RaceCarAuthority or such like.