RE: The Land Rover Discovery at 30
Discussion
camel_landy said:
300bhp/ton said:
E65Ross said:
300bhp/ton said:
Big GT said:
The Disco 4. Not just one of the greatest land rovers but maybe one of the greatest cars.
Just my opinion after owning a couple. But its a do it all car that looks the part transporting royalty to towing 3 ton generators up mud tracks in the Pennines.
I think the biggest shame with the D4 (apart from the bling styling vs the D3 Just my opinion after owning a couple. But its a do it all car that looks the part transporting royalty to towing 3 ton generators up mud tracks in the Pennines.
). Is in the UK the total lack of V8 models.As a 2nd/3rd car on the used market, I'd much rather a petrol V8 than the TDV6.
M
One assumes this decision was on the basis that they aren’t daft and realised there was limited commercial sense in trying to flog such cars in markets where new customer take up would have been massively biased to diesel ?
Obviously the world has moved on but i’m guessing that was the prevailing thinking at the time ?
The D4 offers really good capacity for stowing bulky objects which I hope the new 110 will match or improve on. The D5 is, evidently, a very capable vehicle but is a rare design miss for the LR design team. The rear view looks awkward. The proportions look too perpendicular to me, making it look too narrow, and this appears to be emphasised by the overall, rounded profile. Just my opinion.
My current D3. Nearly 7 years of ownership and it’s changed a fair bit in that time.
About to tick 195,000 as well.
It was a Black M reg 300tdi that back in 1994 started my love of cars and of Landrovers in general. When you are 7 and you have to climb up into a car, that’s cool.
It was much nicer than my dads Escort of the time..
A family friend took me out a few years later in his last of the line D1 ES. Lovely car and being top spec it had a lot of kit for its day.
When the D3 came out, I wanted one.
It had to be Silver, HSE, black leather and privacy glass. I bought mine just after my 25th birthday.
Great car, has climbed hills, waded rivers, driven through tank traps, shown up a few Defenders with its off road ability, taken a worried neighbour and kid to hospital in winter weather and rescued mates stuck in Blizzards.
It’s worth less than a half eaten Snickers bar so it remain and continue to earn its keep as the miles rack up.
Also. PH.
The G4 model pictured is for the 2009 event that got cancelled.
The 2006 event used 37 V8 petrol D3s in RHD and LHD spec. You may wish to correct your post as it’s inaccurate.
My Disco 2 was a bloody reliable thing in hindsight. Based on subsequent MOT advisories, I sold it at the right time, but it only once let us down (broken ignition barrel so nothing major).
In an over-tired stupor I drove it over one of those massive boulders that line the entrances / exits of motorway services. Assumed it was fecked but only a flat tire.
On the lookout now for a good 4 HSE.
In an over-tired stupor I drove it over one of those massive boulders that line the entrances / exits of motorway services. Assumed it was fecked but only a flat tire.
On the lookout now for a good 4 HSE.
Walter Sobchak said:
Big GT said:
The Jag TDV6 3.0 was a wonderful engine though and matched the car.
It is a nice engine, it’s just it’s well known for chewing crankshafts and turbos, I’d rather a petrol V8 if I had a D4 too.Edited by Walter Sobchak on Tuesday 9th July 18:56
Brooking10 said:
I enjoy your LR themed posts, they”re frequently informative and sensible
One assumes this decision was on the basis that they aren’t daft and realised there was limited commercial sense in trying to flog such cars in markets where new customer take up would have been massively biased to diesel ?
Obviously the world has moved on but i’m guessing that was the prevailing thinking at the time ?
It wouldn’t really have costed anything to still produce its. But the diesel obsessed UK and EU meant petrol sales were lower. But as said, the saddest thing is as they weren’t offered new. You can’t get them used either. One assumes this decision was on the basis that they aren’t daft and realised there was limited commercial sense in trying to flog such cars in markets where new customer take up would have been massively biased to diesel ?
Obviously the world has moved on but i’m guessing that was the prevailing thinking at the time ?
You can get the D3 and the RRS with the V8’s. But if you want the refinements/improvements of the D4 over the D3. You can’t get one with a really nice engine. You could opt for a same era RRS. But you then loose the 7 seater layout. Which is all rather a shame.
My parents had an L plate 3.9 v8, great car, highlights included chasing my dad who was in a hot air balloon with my grand parents with me, both of whom refused to get back in the car as they threw up. Using it as a petrol bowser during the fuel tanker driver strike (remember that?) and driving down an ice covered road above Bristol which the night before we had been sledging down.
They also has a D4 which did 45k miles in the first year and went back to Landrover as it was the highest mileage private one in the country at the time. The D4 did the same mpg as the Freelander 2 (one of 5 to date!) they had at the same time. The D4 really seems to hold its value, I suppose it’s because it’s never really been replaced...
They also has a D4 which did 45k miles in the first year and went back to Landrover as it was the highest mileage private one in the country at the time. The D4 did the same mpg as the Freelander 2 (one of 5 to date!) they had at the same time. The D4 really seems to hold its value, I suppose it’s because it’s never really been replaced...
Edited by r159 on Tuesday 9th July 21:22
300bhp/ton said:
Brooking10 said:
I enjoy your LR themed posts, they”re frequently informative and sensible
One assumes this decision was on the basis that they aren’t daft and realised there was limited commercial sense in trying to flog such cars in markets where new customer take up would have been massively biased to diesel ?
Obviously the world has moved on but i’m guessing that was the prevailing thinking at the time ?
It wouldn’t really have costed anything to still produce its. But the diesel obsessed UK and EU meant petrol sales were lower. But as said, the saddest thing is as they weren’t offered new. You can’t get them used either. One assumes this decision was on the basis that they aren’t daft and realised there was limited commercial sense in trying to flog such cars in markets where new customer take up would have been massively biased to diesel ?
Obviously the world has moved on but i’m guessing that was the prevailing thinking at the time ?
You can get the D3 and the RRS with the V8’s. But if you want the refinements/improvements of the D4 over the D3. You can’t get one with a really nice engine. You could opt for a same era RRS. But you then loose the 7 seater layout. Which is all rather a shame.
It's the cost of marketing, servicing, inventory and administration for a model derivative which would have sold in tiny numbers in UK and EU markets at the time.
I had a 1995 3 door v8 that I bought for going off road.
I chucked most parts at it - winch, snorkel (on a v8!!) 265/75 special track insa’s, big arches and loads of under body protection. The one thing I didn’t do was a lift kit and I never found it lacking because of it.
Stand out moments are
when it was used as an anchor for defender who was recovering a friends very stuck defender. I got bored of waiting so I towed the pair of them up a 45 degree hill with ease.
Having cat back straight pipes, it sounded fantastic and scared pedestrians.
Doing 1mpg while off roading and always costing me at least £100 to replace broken parts after a days off roading.
The recession put an end to it all sadly.
I chucked most parts at it - winch, snorkel (on a v8!!) 265/75 special track insa’s, big arches and loads of under body protection. The one thing I didn’t do was a lift kit and I never found it lacking because of it.
Stand out moments are
when it was used as an anchor for defender who was recovering a friends very stuck defender. I got bored of waiting so I towed the pair of them up a 45 degree hill with ease.
Having cat back straight pipes, it sounded fantastic and scared pedestrians.
Doing 1mpg while off roading and always costing me at least £100 to replace broken parts after a days off roading.
The recession put an end to it all sadly.
Brooking10 said:
300bhp/ton said:
Brooking10 said:
I enjoy your LR themed posts, they”re frequently informative and sensible
One assumes this decision was on the basis that they aren’t daft and realised there was limited commercial sense in trying to flog such cars in markets where new customer take up would have been massively biased to diesel ?
Obviously the world has moved on but i’m guessing that was the prevailing thinking at the time ?
It wouldn’t really have costed anything to still produce its. But the diesel obsessed UK and EU meant petrol sales were lower. But as said, the saddest thing is as they weren’t offered new. You can’t get them used either. One assumes this decision was on the basis that they aren’t daft and realised there was limited commercial sense in trying to flog such cars in markets where new customer take up would have been massively biased to diesel ?
Obviously the world has moved on but i’m guessing that was the prevailing thinking at the time ?
You can get the D3 and the RRS with the V8’s. But if you want the refinements/improvements of the D4 over the D3. You can’t get one with a really nice engine. You could opt for a same era RRS. But you then loose the 7 seater layout. Which is all rather a shame.
It's the cost of marketing, servicing, inventory and administration for a model derivative which would have sold in tiny numbers in UK and EU markets at the time.
M
A.J.M said:
Also. PH.
The G4 model pictured is for the 2009 event that got cancelled.
The 2006 event used 37 V8 petrol D3s in RHD and LHD spec. You may wish to correct your post as it’s inaccurate.
Indeed... On the 2006 event, all of the D3s were fitted with the 4.4 Petrol V8. The 2.7 TDV6 D3 was only used in the cars prepared for the cancelled 2009 mongolian event.The G4 model pictured is for the 2009 event that got cancelled.
The 2006 event used 37 V8 petrol D3s in RHD and LHD spec. You may wish to correct your post as it’s inaccurate.
M
Will be interesting to see what LR do with the D5 once new Defender comes out. Personally I think it will be Billy no mates at that point, I mean what will its USP be?! Cannot imagine it will be quietly dropped but do wonder how they will continue selling it in the numbers needed to justify its position.
ducnick said:
If you don’t mind LHD you occasionally see repatriated export spec 4.4 normally aspirated v8’s for sale
I’ve pretty much gone off the idea of owning a new LR model unfortunately, while I still really appreciate them as cars and think they’re great, they’re also just too flawed reliability and cost wise for me to want another, an old D1 or another RRC though I would love!, although when I next get a 4x4 I really want to scratch the 80 series Landcruiser itch before they get too expensive to justify.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff