RE: 2020 GT-R NISMO from ?175k

[parabolica]

je777 said:

Frankly, it's just a weird price. Especially considering what a bargain it was when first released. You'd think they'd be lucky to sell six.

In fairness the Japanese have a tendency to release outrageously expensive versions of their halo cars towards the end of their life - much like the NSX-R which was similar money, or the LFA (although it didn't exactly have a long run).

Nothing wrong with building and pricing a car at that level if they want to ensure exclusivity; I suspect they don't care about appealing to the masses and will depend on a few hardcore fans/collectors to pick them up.

[I 8 a 4RE]

CrunkleFloop said:

Quick around the ring maybe. Phenomenally capable agreed but they're really not terribly exciting cars.

You would have far more fun peddling something like an Alfa GTV6 round.

Yeah this...

To me it is the epitome of everything that's wrong with current 'point and shoot' "sportscars".
Too easy to drive fast, 4WD, auto box, turbo to take away the noise...

I reckon you'd have more fun in an E30 325 with a welded diff?

[xjay1337]

moldy said:

Christ on a bike !!!!

Im sure it will be quick but 175k !! i remember back in the day paying 55 at middlehursts and thinking it was too quick for the roads !

If my memory serves me wasn't the original Nissan GTR back in 08' around £50k (or less?!) brand new?

You can buy a 2012MY GTR for say £50k or whatever they go for now and then throw the VERY best parts at it, interior , nicest re trims, seats, audio upgrades , the best chassis mods, roll bars, suspension, brakes etc, custom bodywork (carbon bonnet, boot and doors) AND tune it to add another 100-150hp, and not spend more than £30k on top of the purchase price!

So for £80k you have a car that is far , far better than the Nismo is standard.
Before people moan, it's a GTR - it's a modders car.

If you wanted to keep your car standard for that money you can have a much more bespoke Mclaren or stretch to a Ferrari, Bentley etc!

Honestly think they are stupid at this price. It will still sell, mainly for collectors I fear.

[Gameface]

The more exclusive Litchfield LM20 for less than a £100k makes much more sense to me.

[ColdoRS]

Maybe not entirely the same issue, but I had to pick myself up off the floor of the Lotus stand at Goodwood last week, after seeing the price of the new Exige - £105,000!?

It was the top spec one (430 Cup, maybe?) and it looked great and I bet it is a fabulous thing, but over a hundred grand!?

[cerb4.5lee]

xjay1337 said:

If my memory serves me wasn't the original Nissan GTR back in 08' around £50k (or less?!) brand new?

Iirc I think they were £54k because I remember talking about them to my Mrs. At the time I was amazed that you could buy a car new for that money and it be that fast!

It was a serious game changer when it first came out I thought and it certainly upset the Porsche 911 fanboys(and Porsche themselves).

[SidewaysSi]

ColdoRS said:

Maybe not entirely the same issue, but I had to pick myself up off the floor of the Lotus stand at Goodwood last week, after seeing the price of the new Exige - £105,000!?

It was the top spec one (430 Cup, maybe?) and it looked great and I bet it is a fabulous thing, but over a hundred grand!?

You can spend £60k on a Caterham...

[leglessAlex]

Like many replies, I love the GTR to bits and I could never consider spending that mind of money on one. This is coming from someone that just spent what some would say is far too much on a Lotus Evora, too.

It's a beast, but I'm hoping the next gen (R36?) isn't too far away

[cerb4.5lee]

SidewaysSi said:

ColdoRS said:

Maybe not entirely the same issue, but I had to pick myself up off the floor of the Lotus stand at Goodwood last week, after seeing the price of the new Exige - £105,000!?

It was the top spec one (430 Cup, maybe?) and it looked great and I bet it is a fabulous thing, but over a hundred grand!?

You can spend £60k on a Caterham...

I think I must still live in a world where you can buy a new Golf GTi for £20k! I was properly shocked recently when I realised how much Lotus now charge for their cars. A lotus used to be a bit of a performance bargain with some of their models once upon a time.

Caterham are getting in on the act now too then.

[Escort3500]

£175k for something that’s not aged well and is still as ugly as sin. Ahm oot.

[Reark]

Wait I'm confused....

People saying it looks outdated now but these images in the article are NOT from the MY2020 right?

[PHMatt]

Onehp said:

Nismo versions have never been worth their money, and still aren't. Unless you're a big fan or you don't care.

Mere mortals doing pretty well who want the latest GT-R with some extra spice, will get the regular version and let one of the GT-R specialists make it a lot more special for less than halft the additional outlay of the Nismo.

Just stating what I thought was the obvious...

Most people don't want to modify a brand new car, invalidating the warranty and depreciating it.
Not to mention, they're mostly leased. Meaning they're not even technically allowed to as they don't own it.

[SidewaysSi]

cerb4.5lee said:

SidewaysSi said:

ColdoRS said:

Maybe not entirely the same issue, but I had to pick myself up off the floor of the Lotus stand at Goodwood last week, after seeing the price of the new Exige - £105,000!?

It was the top spec one (430 Cup, maybe?) and it looked great and I bet it is a fabulous thing, but over a hundred grand!?

You can spend £60k on a Caterham...

I think I must still live in a world where you can buy a new Golf GTi for £20k! I was properly shocked recently when I realised how much Lotus now charge for their cars. A lotus used to be a bit of a performance bargain with some of their models once upon a time.

Caterham are getting in on the act now too then.

Yep Lotus is not a cheap car. Think people presume something made out of fibreglass in a glorified shed should be cheap! The Elise when launched was around £20k (with a couple of options) when new in 1996 and prices have crept up since.

Not a bargain to buy but overall cost of ownership can be very cheap..

[leglessAlex]

I 8 a 4RE said:

CrunkleFloop said:

Quick around the ring maybe. Phenomenally capable agreed but they're really not terribly exciting cars.

You would have far more fun peddling something like an Alfa GTV6 round.

Yeah this...

To me it is the epitome of everything that's wrong with current 'point and shoot' "sportscars".
Too easy to drive fast, 4WD, auto box, turbo to take away the noise...

I reckon you'd have more fun in an E30 325 with a welded diff?

I realise both of you might have driven them, and that a fair few people that have driven them do say the same as you do, but....

Aren't these actually quite mechanical in many ways? It seems common for reviewers and people that have driven them to say that actually, although they seem like they would be from the spec sheet, that actually they aren't the playstation type car everyone thinks they are. Hydraulic steering, loads of feedback through the suspension, a gearbox that actually clunks and whines in a very mechanical way and so on.

[cerb4.5lee]

Escort3500 said:

£175k for something that’s not aged well and is still as ugly as sin. Ahm oot.

I've always liked the GTR's road presence and the way it looks. Although the Nismo version has always looked a bit too try hard for me though.

[PHMatt]

ColdoRS said:

Maybe not entirely the same issue, but I had to pick myself up off the floor of the Lotus stand at Goodwood last week, after seeing the price of the new Exige - £105,000!?

It was the top spec one (430 Cup, maybe?) and it looked great and I bet it is a fabulous thing, but over a hundred grand!?

It it still 80% chicken wire?

[leglessAlex]

SidewaysSi said:

Yep Lotus is not a cheap car. Think people presume something made out of fibreglass in a glorified shed should be cheap! The Elise when launched was around £20k (with a couple of options) when new in 1996 and prices have crept up since.

Not a bargain to buy but overall cost of ownership can be very cheap..

The price of a new Elise in 1996 seems to have been from £22,700 according to Parkers. In 2018 money according to the Bank of England Inflation Calcualtor, that is £41,857. The price of a new Elise Sport 220 is £41,850.

I've just bought an Evora GT410 Sport, and to be honest, as I don't intend on keeing it all that long, the cost of ownership will be quite low indeed, and most likely a fair bit lower than a Porsche 911 that had cost a similar amount, so the point about a low cost of ownership is a good one to make.

[SidewaysSi]

PHMatt said:

ColdoRS said:

Maybe not entirely the same issue, but I had to pick myself up off the floor of the Lotus stand at Goodwood last week, after seeing the price of the new Exige - £105,000!?

It was the top spec one (430 Cup, maybe?) and it looked great and I bet it is a fabulous thing, but over a hundred grand!?

It it still 80% chicken wire?

Is this an attempt at a Clarkson Top Gear quote from nearly 10 years ago?

[belleair302]

How much of this price increase is due to a weak GBP and a steady Japanese Yen?

[ntiz]

The world of cars does seem to have got expensive.

For some reason in my head a 911 turbo is 90-100k

M5 are around 70

Exiges are 50-60

M5 and Exige are now 100k and 911 Turbos are 140+

I'm only 28 and I'm out of touch.