RE: Singer Vehicle Design | PH Meets

RE: Singer Vehicle Design | PH Meets

Author
Discussion

Augustus Windsock

3,340 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
“..alongside DLS development drivers Chris Harris, Richard Tuthill and Marino Franchitti”
Nice to see that Monkey is involved, adds some credence to its development.
We usually see names bandied about that are racing drivers, the fact that Harris is a road tester and reviewer is, to my mind, a more rounded viewpoint to have. Let’s face it, most of us are nearer (and that is a relative term here) to Harris in our driving abilities than to Franchitti.
As for the car, I love the exterior but the interior just leaves me cold
As a previous poster opined, shame the article couldn’t be more enlightening.

Digga

40,207 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
camel_landy said:
C.MW said:
A very expensive piece of mish mash work. When it comes to Porsche, I want original or nothing.
Normally, I would agree...

...but there's 'something' about this car which is just sooooo right.

M
Quite. There are firms which butcher donor vehicles and then there are those - arguably Twisted's Land Rover Defenders are a good example - who use donor vehicles to create something above and beyond, a definitive product in and of itself.

I can quite see it is not everyone's cup of tea, but personally, everything I've seen and read of the DLS ticks all the boxes of being a unique offering in today's sanitised world of muffled, turbo and exhaust filtered 'sports' cars.

forester2945

32 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
anonymous said:
[redacted]
I stand corrected, good to see the graphs showing the difference between with ducktail, without and the turbo. I add nothing to this I am only regurgitating articles I have read. *gets back into my box - orders taxi - goes home*

Jon_S_Rally

3,385 posts

87 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
I do love Singer. I love what they do. They're obsessed in a good way.

While I respect this car however, it's not for me. I think I prefer some of their other efforts. There is something more stylish and simple about their efforts.

Bravo all the same though.

Scho

2,479 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Is the rubber shroud behind the steering wheel staying?

Always though they looked nasty.

SydneyBridge

8,500 posts

157 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
I had a close nose around Andy's at Goodwood and the attention to detail is absolutely stunning- its like a fine piece of art


Mattjevans

234 posts

91 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Having started as a massive sceptical, I have enormous respect for what the Singer guys are doing.

But I don’t buy the “won’t turn a profit” line for a second. There’s an awful lot of marketing speak to justify cost.

Willing to bet they do a 996 next.

Terminator X

14,921 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
The old 911's are such beautiful cars, what a place to start from! As always Singer smashing it.

TX.

Augustus Windsock

3,340 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
$1.8m
Just re-read that figure and whilst the car, or piece of art if you will, is gorgeous, I couldn’t bring myself to pay that much for one (notwithstanding I’m around $1.79m short...)
What sort of classic Porsche does that amount of wedge buy instead I wonder? Even the rarest RSR can’t be that much, surely?
Admittedly it would take around double to buy a (track only) 917 which on the face of it makes the Singer seem good value.


seefarr

1,461 posts

185 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Augustus Windsock said:
$1.8m
Just re-read that figure and whilst the car, or piece of art if you will, is gorgeous, I couldn’t bring myself to pay that much for one (notwithstanding I’m around $1.79m short...)
What sort of classic Porsche does that amount of wedge buy instead I wonder? Even the rarest RSR can’t be that much, surely?
Admittedly it would take around double to buy a (track only) 917 which on the face of it makes the Singer seem good value.
At that price I'd be going with a 962 road car like this one instead. It'll be an absolute pig to drive but.....

http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/11/porsche-962c-p...

housen

2,366 posts

191 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
given what RUF are doing these days with their brand new factory built ultra modern classics

i know ruf want 600k euros for one

but vs these singer frankenstein's ...id take the ruf all day long

Marc H

207 posts

153 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Heads 'sit atop'...? I'm not 911 expert, but sure with a boxer engine the heads are vertical rather than horizontal? I could be wrong, as Robert Plant says...

Digga

40,207 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Mattjevans said:
Willing to bet they do a 996 next.
I'd not thought of that, but it makes very good sense; the platform is not sufficiently well-loved (either side of the pond) to be an expensive donor vehicle, but would make an excellent platform and are available in number.

If only they could make one look a bit like a roadgoing GT1....

Cold

15,207 posts

89 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Meh. It's just another 911. Glossy paint and functioning door seals won't alter that snoozefest.

RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
I love these things. There are plenty of vintage Porsches around so no problem with surviving originals. Likewise Eagle E Types.
Well done.

Digga

40,207 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Cold said:
Meh. It's just another 911. Glossy paint and functioning door seals won't alter that snoozefest.
I can understand that is how some people feel. There is nothing for you to see here.

m444ttb

3,160 posts

228 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Digga said:
'd not thought of that, but it makes very good sense; the platform is not sufficiently well-loved (either side of the pond) to be an expensive donor vehicle, but would make an excellent platform and are available in number.

If only they could make one look a bit like a roadgoing GT1....
I fear they would start by fixing the headlights, which don't need fixing. But so long as they don't try a back date as the car I see pop up on Instagram fairly frequently just doesn't look right.

Geoffcapes

670 posts

163 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
Mattjevans said:
Having started as a massive sceptical, I have enormous respect for what the Singer guys are doing.

But I don’t buy the “won’t turn a profit” line for a second. There’s an awful lot of marketing speak to justify cost.

Willing to bet they do a 996 next.
The 996 is generally regarded as the ugly duckling. I'd bet they skip that and go straight to the 997.

nunpuncher

3,364 posts

124 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
I would have said there's no chance of them ever doing a 996 or any other water cooled 911 but I would have said the same of Magnus Walker several years ago.

I love what Singer do and if I wasn't such a disappointment to my parents I'd happily spend £400k on one over any of the modern alien technology super cars of today. However, there is a point where it just gets a bit wky and I feel this car is so far over that line it can't even be seen in the rear view mirror. $500,000 on door seals.... am I the only person not impressed by that.

Mattjevans

234 posts

91 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
quotequote all
nunpuncher said:
$500,000 on door seals.... am I the only person not impressed by that.
No..... am I the only person who doesn't believe it.