RE: Volkswagen Touareg V6 TFSI | Driven

RE: Volkswagen Touareg V6 TFSI | Driven

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stongle

5,910 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Burwood said:
stongle said:
TomTVR500 said:
I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't opt for the Cayenne S if this is more expensive or even the same price. Ignoring the badge even, the Porsche is just a fundamentally better car to drive, steer, listen to, look at (certainly inside) assuming it is no less or negligibly less practical than the Touareg it seems very difficult to make a case for this particular vehicle.

That being said, it's always nice these days to see a large petrol engine get installed in any vehicle.
Can't see anyone paying anywhere near list on this. Seeing 16% off currently, with almost no shopping around. I've a 2017 model, so looking to replace right now (the deal on that - as end of life, was insane). I test drove the diesel R Line Tech and was pretty impressed with it. Not as nice inside as a Porsche; but for an annynonmous school run battle bus - its a nice piece of kit and well screwed together.

Only downside on mine has been a full set of tyyes @ 200quid a corner and front rear discs/pads in less than 19k.
I feel for you. 19k is a joke. I'd be complaining. Normal Touareg brakes should last 60-80k miles.
It does get driven quite hard, but I was also pretty unimpressed. But, as is said here the lease deals on these will be nuts.

My 2017 model (262ps), total cost over 3 years is 17k (including tyres and brakes). If I'd bought it @ list I'd probably have taken a 30k+ hit on depreciation. Allowing for interest charges; thats close to a 30% discount on new.

Obviously 17k is a lot of money (and you could buy a fair chunk of metal for that); but if you are needing a new car (for small wife and kids) - this is where leasing works much much better than buying for cash.


Edited by stongle on Wednesday 17th July 09:06

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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thiscocks said:
To be driven by small women across the country.
Strange point ?

Does it need a man, maybe a bigger lady to justify one ?

What cars should small women have ?

Rozzers

1,714 posts

75 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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A neighbour has one of these (TDI version), theyre pretty cheaply built with a lot of hard plastic in the interior, a bit like the F-Pace. He got it for not a lot more than a Tiguan per month, so viewed that way its OK.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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stongle said:
Burwood said:
stongle said:
TomTVR500 said:
I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't opt for the Cayenne S if this is more expensive or even the same price. Ignoring the badge even, the Porsche is just a fundamentally better car to drive, steer, listen to, look at (certainly inside) assuming it is no less or negligibly less practical than the Touareg it seems very difficult to make a case for this particular vehicle.

That being said, it's always nice these days to see a large petrol engine get installed in any vehicle.
Can't see anyone paying anywhere near list on this. Seeing 16% off currently, with almost no shopping around. I've a 2017 model, so looking to replace right now (the deal on that - as end of life, was insane). I test drove the diesel R Line Tech and was pretty impressed with it. Not as nice inside as a Porsche; but for an annynonmous school run battle bus - its a nice piece of kit and well screwed together.

Only downside on mine has been a full set of tyyes @ 200quid a corner and front rear discs/pads in less than 19k.
I feel for you. 19k is a joke. I'd be complaining. Normal Touareg brakes should last 60-80k miles.
It does get driven quite hard, but I was also pretty unimpressed. But, as is said here the lease deals on these will be nuts.

My 2017 model (262ps), total cost over 3 years is 17k (including tyres and brakes). If I'd bought it @ list I'd probably have taken a 30k+ hit on depreciation. Allowing for interest charges; thats close to a 30% discount on new.

Obviously 17k is a lot of money (and you could buy a fair chunk of metal for that); but if you are needing a new car (for small wife and kids) - this is where leasing works much much better than buying for cash.


Edited by stongle on Wednesday 17th July 09:06
I was eagerly awaiting the new model, hoping they'd knock it out of the park. I very much appreciate where it sits in the line up. Apparently with the emissions regs they've been left with a terrible step off which would be a tad irritating. I got more excited when I saw the V8 diesel then UK decide not to offer it. I think if one did the math, net ownership costs wouldn't be much different to an X5 which is a far better car.

stongle

5,910 posts

162 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Burwood said:
I was eagerly awaiting the new model, hoping they'd knock it out of the park. I very much appreciate where it sits in the line up. Apparently with the emissions regs they've been left with a terrible step off which would be a tad irritating. I got more excited when I saw the V8 diesel then UK decide not to offer it. I think if one did the math, net ownership costs wouldn't be much different to an X5 which is a far better car.
I did look at the X5, but couldnt get near the PX of the VW (on a PCL). Speccing the X5 to same level as mine would be a 68k car - and BMW discounts can be a bit stingy (I got murdered on my prior F30 touring - so vowed never to buy again). I'd think that the Macan would be the best NET cost - but its too small for family dutues. Interestingly, the VW was cheaper than both a Santa Fey and X-trail.

This isn't a car people will buy new, but lease. As the article says it's very annonymous and classless. It's actually quite difficult to replace. Budget wise I'm looking at one of these again; but I think the Cayenne Hybrid might be the car to go for this time (for allround ownership costs / grin factor).

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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stongle said:
It does get driven quite hard, but I was also pretty unimpressed. But, as is said here the lease deals on these will be nuts.

My 2017 model (262ps), total cost over 3 years is 17k (including tyres and brakes). If I'd bought it @ list I'd probably have taken a 30k+ hit on depreciation. Allowing for interest charges; thats close to a 30% discount on new.

Obviously 17k is a lot of money (and you could buy a fair chunk of metal for that); but if you are needing a new car (for small wife and kids) - this is where leasing works much much better than buying for cash.
If the lease was with VWFS you'd have been able to add service, maint and tyres - I've no idea what that would cost ot Touareg but on other VW models it can be oddly cheap. Having said that, a colleague ran a Touareg to high mileage and he reckoned service and maint costs were bumped up by the models mechanical similarity to Cayenne. Things like VW's fixed price servicing don't apply to Touareg.