Abandoned car, taxed but no MOT - no one wants to know!
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Am I the only one who finds these threads a tad pathetic .. grassing up someone for something so minor , To me if parking bothers you so much buy a proper house with off street parking. I personally would never park my cars on the road when at home don’t even leave vans on the road !
Weekendrebuild said:
Am I the only one who finds these threads a tad pathetic .. grassing up someone for something so minor , To me if parking bothers you so much buy a proper house with off street parking. I personally would never park my cars on the road when at home don’t even leave vans on the road !
It is pathetic. Yes its annoying, but so are many things in life and if your biggest concern is that you have to walk a bit further to your house its a sad state of affairs. Its also sad people are that worked up about it that they feel 'someone else should do something'. EG this....
redguy said:
Had this with a car near work.
Taxed, but no MOT - I reported it to the DVLA, residents reported it to the council and DVLA....and so it went on.
Car was parked in the same position for around 6 months. Only then did the owner turn up and drive it away! In the meantime, same story.....nobody wanted to know.
My sympathies OP!
Ummm.... so someone actually owned it, knew it was there, and chose to simply park his car there for 6 months. So what? Really, so what? Worth making a fuss about? Jesus.... Taxed, but no MOT - I reported it to the DVLA, residents reported it to the council and DVLA....and so it went on.
Car was parked in the same position for around 6 months. Only then did the owner turn up and drive it away! In the meantime, same story.....nobody wanted to know.
My sympathies OP!
MarJay said:
Is it yours? Is it negatively affecting your day to day life?
If no, then forget it. It doesn't sound illegal. Did you wonder why it might be taxed but not MOT'd?
Obviously it isn't mine, I was however, under the impression that having a valid MOT is a legal requirement in order to park a car on a public road, so it is very mildly irritating to know that I spend time and money every year to stay on the right side of the law, when no-one really seems to care whether I do or not, AND I have to walk past the eyesore every day! I'm not the only one on the street who thinks so but no-one knows whose it is. If no, then forget it. It doesn't sound illegal. Did you wonder why it might be taxed but not MOT'd?
Condi said:
Weekendrebuild said:
Am I the only one who finds these threads a tad pathetic .. grassing up someone for something so minor , To me if parking bothers you so much buy a proper house with off street parking. I personally would never park my cars on the road when at home don’t even leave vans on the road !
It is pathetic. Yes its annoying, but so are many things in life and if your biggest concern is that you have to walk a bit further to your house its a sad state of affairs. Its also sad people are that worked up about it that they feel 'someone else should do something'. EG this....
redguy said:
Had this with a car near work.
Taxed, but no MOT - I reported it to the DVLA, residents reported it to the council and DVLA....and so it went on.
Car was parked in the same position for around 6 months. Only then did the owner turn up and drive it away! In the meantime, same story.....nobody wanted to know.
My sympathies OP!
Ummm.... so someone actually owned it, knew it was there, and chose to simply park his car there for 6 months. So what? Really, so what? Worth making a fuss about? Jesus.... Taxed, but no MOT - I reported it to the DVLA, residents reported it to the council and DVLA....and so it went on.
Car was parked in the same position for around 6 months. Only then did the owner turn up and drive it away! In the meantime, same story.....nobody wanted to know.
My sympathies OP!
Weekendrebuild said:
Am I the only one who finds these threads a tad pathetic .. grassing up someone for something so minor , To me if parking bothers you so much buy a proper house with off street parking. I personally would never park my cars on the road when at home don’t even leave vans on the road !
This. I love all the wailing about it having no MOT. At worst it's a £100 FPN and (I have to admit I don't know for sure) that's going to be for driving it. An MOT certificate is nothing to do with the roadworthiness of a vehicle.
Again, just because it might be "legal" to do something doesn't mean it is "OK" to do something and it is still OK for other people to be irritated by it.
There's been a Toyota IQ parked on the road outside someone's house for at least 5 days now, on a road through a village that I go through to work. It isn't illegally parked, but it certainly is enormously inconvenient for everyone else at rush hour as it brings the road down to a single lane, at a point where roadworks are already underway further up, causing quite a bit of a jam. It isn't "illegal", but it is plain inconsiderate.
There's been a Toyota IQ parked on the road outside someone's house for at least 5 days now, on a road through a village that I go through to work. It isn't illegally parked, but it certainly is enormously inconvenient for everyone else at rush hour as it brings the road down to a single lane, at a point where roadworks are already underway further up, causing quite a bit of a jam. It isn't "illegal", but it is plain inconsiderate.
As far as I am aware, it is only illegal to DRIVE a vehicle without a relevant MOT.
In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
Pica-Pica said:
As far as I am aware, it is only illegal to DRIVE a vehicle without a relevant MOT.
In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
The ruling isn't about driving on the road, it's about using the road. Parked on the road is using the road. In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
To the gallows with you.
Often these issues can come up because the owner has some kind of medical issue.
A friend of my dad had a severe stroke a couple of years ago. He lived alone, with no immediate family but many friends. Although it was clear that he was never going to need the car again (a really ropey old Megane that was only good for the scrap yard), there was no way we could legally move or get rid of it. He was in no state to give us permission, and it stood there for about 9 months. Eventually powers of attorney were set up and it was then dealt with, but getting rid of an old car was rather a long way down the priority list compared to getting his finances sorted to pay for a place in a nursing home etc.
A friend of my dad had a severe stroke a couple of years ago. He lived alone, with no immediate family but many friends. Although it was clear that he was never going to need the car again (a really ropey old Megane that was only good for the scrap yard), there was no way we could legally move or get rid of it. He was in no state to give us permission, and it stood there for about 9 months. Eventually powers of attorney were set up and it was then dealt with, but getting rid of an old car was rather a long way down the priority list compared to getting his finances sorted to pay for a place in a nursing home etc.
Pica-Pica said:
As far as I am aware, it is only illegal to DRIVE a vehicle without a relevant MOT.
In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
Nope, it's illegal to have it parked up on the road too. See here:In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
https://www.gov.uk/report-no-mot
"You can only report a vehicle with no MOT to the police if it’s being used on a road. This includes parked vehicles.".
That said, I don't think I'd report a car without an MOT (assuming there's not an abandonment in front of the driveway or something). I'd also do the same and risk it if I lived in a place where there is no off-street parking.
bluezedd said:
Pica-Pica said:
As far as I am aware, it is only illegal to DRIVE a vehicle without a relevant MOT.
In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
Nope, it's illegal to have it parked up on the road too. See here:In the past, I have driven home after an MOT failure, parked the car on the street, booked a repair and MOT, and driven it there on the day. All perfectly legal as far as I recall (not sure about the new MOT rules).
https://www.gov.uk/report-no-mot
We live in a no through road with only 10 houses, so any new cars turning up stand out a mile.
Last year a rather decrepid Astra appeared outside our place, never seen it before and had clearly been dumped. Did the checks and found it wasn't taxed or insured so phoned the local Police (who was surprisingly helpful). They said that it was a Council matter, I asked if the owner/registered keeper lived local to which the reply was it wasn't registered to anyone.
I phoned the Council to see if they could deal with it. Apparently I had to wait a fortnight, call them again. They would send someone down within the week to check on the car. They would then write to the registered keeper and if they didn't respond within a month they would then organise someone to come and collect it (another week). I wished them luck in writing to the R/K as there wasn't one, but that seemed to go over the ladies head. It worked out that it could be 8 weeks for the car to be moved by the Council, by which time it would have taken root.
Luckily a few days later a scrapper turned up (not my doing honest!) and removed the car, never to be seen again.
I can understand why the Council won't deal with it immediately, but 2 months seems a bit too excessive
Last year a rather decrepid Astra appeared outside our place, never seen it before and had clearly been dumped. Did the checks and found it wasn't taxed or insured so phoned the local Police (who was surprisingly helpful). They said that it was a Council matter, I asked if the owner/registered keeper lived local to which the reply was it wasn't registered to anyone.
I phoned the Council to see if they could deal with it. Apparently I had to wait a fortnight, call them again. They would send someone down within the week to check on the car. They would then write to the registered keeper and if they didn't respond within a month they would then organise someone to come and collect it (another week). I wished them luck in writing to the R/K as there wasn't one, but that seemed to go over the ladies head. It worked out that it could be 8 weeks for the car to be moved by the Council, by which time it would have taken root.
Luckily a few days later a scrapper turned up (not my doing honest!) and removed the car, never to be seen again.
I can understand why the Council won't deal with it immediately, but 2 months seems a bit too excessive
Weekendrebuild said:
Am I the only one who finds these threads a tad pathetic .. grassing up someone for something so minor , To me if parking bothers you so much buy a proper house with off street parking. I personally would never park my cars on the road when at home don’t even leave vans on the road !
If only that was an option, but maybe not everyone has your sort of "loadsamoney" budget! Where I live each house has 2 allocated spaces in a parking area, and there has been an 05 plate Corsa Diesel sat in the same place since early 2018 that hasn't been MOT'd, taxed or SORN'd for over a year and doesn't belong to any of the residents in my road. It's even got mould growing on the seats now!
DVLA don't seem interested, local authority won't do anything as they say it's private land so the owner of the land (as in owner of the allocated space) has to deal with it.
Yet according to the RTAs it is a public road as the public have unrestricted access to it.
So basically no authority seems to care - makes me wonder why I bother with MOTs and road tax.
SkodaIan said:
Often these issues can come up because the owner has some kind of medical issue.
A friend of my dad had a severe stroke a couple of years ago. He lived alone, with no immediate family but many friends. Although it was clear that he was never going to need the car again (a really ropey old Megane that was only good for the scrap yard), there was no way we could legally move or get rid of it. He was in no state to give us permission, and it stood there for about 9 months. Eventually powers of attorney were set up and it was then dealt with, but getting rid of an old car was rather a long way down the priority list compared to getting his finances sorted to pay for a place in a nursing home etc.
I live in a small block of flats with a car park. There's a Focus in the corner which has been there 9 years or so. We understand it belongs to a friend of the old boy next door, but he's not seen him in years. Presumed dead. No keys. And just to complicate things the number plate comes up as a different car on the DVLA sites.A friend of my dad had a severe stroke a couple of years ago. He lived alone, with no immediate family but many friends. Although it was clear that he was never going to need the car again (a really ropey old Megane that was only good for the scrap yard), there was no way we could legally move or get rid of it. He was in no state to give us permission, and it stood there for about 9 months. Eventually powers of attorney were set up and it was then dealt with, but getting rid of an old car was rather a long way down the priority list compared to getting his finances sorted to pay for a place in a nursing home etc.
NOBODY wants to know. Private land bla bla. Doesn't really bother me but it winds my Victoria Meldrew neighbour up no end.
My understanding is the solution is to smash it up a bit, then the council get interested, or drag it onto the street and the police will.
MikeLowry said:
Pericoloso said:
Could be MOT exempt and tax is FOC.
What year is this car approximately ?
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Its a 2001 C Class hatchback thing. Looks distinctly unloved.What year is this car approximately ?
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I checked it's not the same as OP's car as it still has a little MOT left.
Will see how long it stays for.
I have experience of this
Bloke round corner bought 'project car'
His missus didnt want it on their drive so he parked/dumped it at the end of our street obscuring a junction
It sat there for months and never moved
Our neighbours thought it an eyesore and raised hell to no effect
It really was an eyesore and obscured the junction but was MOT'd, taxed and insured so there really was no harm done in the eyes of the law
The MOT ran out after about six months
Neighbours reported expired MOt to authorities - not interested
Its tax ran out several weeks later
The tow truck appeared the same day
Cheers
Bloke round corner bought 'project car'
His missus didnt want it on their drive so he parked/dumped it at the end of our street obscuring a junction
It sat there for months and never moved
Our neighbours thought it an eyesore and raised hell to no effect
It really was an eyesore and obscured the junction but was MOT'd, taxed and insured so there really was no harm done in the eyes of the law
The MOT ran out after about six months
Neighbours reported expired MOt to authorities - not interested
Its tax ran out several weeks later
The tow truck appeared the same day
Cheers
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