Bad crash at my local boy racer meet
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Car meets to be banned in Stevenage after horror crash left 18 injured -- https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfo...
carl_w said:
Car meets to be banned in Stevenage after horror crash left 18 injured -- https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfo...
How much Council Tax was converted into hot air for that article?Europa1 said:
carl_w said:
Car meets to be banned in Stevenage after horror crash left 18 injured -- https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfo...
How much Council Tax was converted into hot air for that article?garyhun said:
Europa1 said:
carl_w said:
Car meets to be banned in Stevenage after horror crash left 18 injured -- https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfo...
How much Council Tax was converted into hot air for that article?saaby93 said:
was the incident inside or outside the meet?
Were all those people stood around waiting for the number 94 bus?Sheesh, there's some nutty thinking around these parts sometimes.
The nutters who caused the accident are the ones responsible for restricting the ones who behave themselves. Blame them rather than the local authorities, who are duty bound to act in the public interest (including protecting you from nutters at car meets around public spaces).
saaby93 said:
garyhun said:
Europa1 said:
carl_w said:
Car meets to be banned in Stevenage after horror crash left 18 injured -- https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfo...
How much Council Tax was converted into hot air for that article?Act like knobs, get treated like knobs.
garyhun said:
saaby93 said:
garyhun said:
Europa1 said:
carl_w said:
Car meets to be banned in Stevenage after horror crash left 18 injured -- https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfo...
How much Council Tax was converted into hot air for that article?Act like knobs, get treated like knobs.
saaby93 said:
garyhun said:
Europa1 said:
carl_w said:
Car meets to be banned in Stevenage after horror crash left 18 injured -- https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfo...
How much Council Tax was converted into hot air for that article?Do you think people would be driving like aholes there if the meet didn't take place? Do you think the crowd would be there filming or cheering if it didn't take place?
untakenname said:
How will they prevent people doing informal meetups via social media?
The same as the other 'car cruising' injunctions: nobody needs to prevent it as such - after the injunction anybody taking part in a meet will be in contempt of court. In the other cases, the police widely publicised the bans and warned that anybody breaching it would be arrested and brought before the court.Algarve said:
Why would that matter?
Do you think people would be driving like aholes there if the meet didn't take place? Do you think the crowd would be there filming or cheering if it didn't take place?
Isn't the thing to do to allow the meetup but have police close by to deter the numpties?Do you think people would be driving like aholes there if the meet didn't take place? Do you think the crowd would be there filming or cheering if it didn't take place?
Or even make the event organisers responsible for policing.
Gareth79 said:
The same as the other 'car cruising' injunctions: nobody needs to prevent it as such - after the injunction anybody taking part in a meet will be in contempt of court. In the other cases, the police widely publicised the bans and warned that anybody breaching it would be arrested and brought before the court.
Has anyone ever been prosecuted in relation to this type of injunction for car meets though? Be interested to know.CoolHands said:
Has anyone ever been prosecuted in relation to this type of injunction for car meets though? Be interested to know.
Yes. As I posted earlier in the thread:https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2019/02/22/bla...
Forty-seven respondents have been subject to committal proceedings for breaching the injunction since 2015, including 32 within the last 12 months. One defendant received an immediate custodial sentence of three months, 14 were given suspended sentences of up to six months while others received fines of up to £2,000 and were ordered to pay costs. A further 12 respondents have given undertakings to the court.
Kubevoid said:
I said this around decade ago...
"Watch this" tw@ts in front of video camera tw@ts = recipe for success.
Lessons learned? None. Repeat on loop, in ever higher resolution...
IMHO, Everyone is to blame:
Chavs who drive like morons with zero skill or anticipation.
Those who encourage this behaviour by filming the antics and profiting via YouTube.
Those who attend such gatherings and encourage the above via yelling, or standing in Darwin Award locations.
The Police who have the man power to hide in bushes in the middle of nowhere, yet fail to Police regular hot spots. Let alone as metioned, fail to investigate the really horrific crimes in the UK now. Or sit around online looking for those who insist on using their freedom of speech. Yet magically the police appear en masse after an accident. Yes there is a reason the public don't respect you any more. You are not working for the people. I suggest resigning if you don't like that harsh reality.
Anyway, that's my 2p. I am sure the arguing will go on forever. That's all I have to say on the matter. I don't want to be dragged into the black hole of despair over the state of the UK. Just to say, this will contuniue to occur. Predictable as the sun setting.
Right...
Back to happier threads. Enjoy
Whilst I agree with the sentiment that people only play up / drive like a cock when they have an audience and to get more facebook/youtube views etc I dont think the comments over plod are fair."Watch this" tw@ts in front of video camera tw@ts = recipe for success.
Lessons learned? None. Repeat on loop, in ever higher resolution...
IMHO, Everyone is to blame:
Chavs who drive like morons with zero skill or anticipation.
Those who encourage this behaviour by filming the antics and profiting via YouTube.
Those who attend such gatherings and encourage the above via yelling, or standing in Darwin Award locations.
The Police who have the man power to hide in bushes in the middle of nowhere, yet fail to Police regular hot spots. Let alone as metioned, fail to investigate the really horrific crimes in the UK now. Or sit around online looking for those who insist on using their freedom of speech. Yet magically the police appear en masse after an accident. Yes there is a reason the public don't respect you any more. You are not working for the people. I suggest resigning if you don't like that harsh reality.
Anyway, that's my 2p. I am sure the arguing will go on forever. That's all I have to say on the matter. I don't want to be dragged into the black hole of despair over the state of the UK. Just to say, this will contuniue to occur. Predictable as the sun setting.
Right...
Back to happier threads. Enjoy
Plod cant anticipate how these meets will go, many hundreds of them go without this type of serious incident. Those that they do 'supervise', they can only release one or two officers and they cant cover a large retail park or other meet area.
Also, if they did turn up, all the yoofs would do is move on and moan all day about what a waste of police resources it is.
The police are dammed if they do and dammed if they dont.
Munter said:
CoolHands said:
Has anyone ever been prosecuted in relation to this type of injunction for car meets though? Be interested to know.
Yes. As I posted earlier in the thread:https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2019/02/22/bla...
Forty-seven respondents have been subject to committal proceedings for breaching the injunction since 2015, including 32 within the last 12 months. One defendant received an immediate custodial sentence of three months, 14 were given suspended sentences of up to six months while others received fines of up to £2,000 and were ordered to pay costs. A further 12 respondents have given undertakings to the court.
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