RE: Mid-engined Corvette Stingray revealed!
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It's got more front than Blackpool and wouldn't look out of place zooming up the promenade, before doing donuts under the tower, to an adoring group of local scallies. Lots of instagram likes later and you'd be absolutely disgusted with yourself. You'd rightly throw the keys in a skip before setting yourself on fire, which would be particularly easy in your highly flammable knock-off Gucci shell suit.
PMacanGTS said:
It's got more front than Blackpool and wouldn't look out of place zooming up the promenade, before doing donuts under the tower, to an adoring group of local scallies. Lots of instagram likes later and you'd be absolutely disgusted with yourself. You'd rightly throw the keys in a skip before setting yourself on fire, which would be particularly easy in your highly flammable knock-off Gucci shell suit.
you still want one thoughPMacanGTS said:
It's got more front than Blackpool and wouldn't look out of place zooming up the promenade, before doing donuts under the tower, to an adoring group of local scallies. Lots of instagram likes later and you'd be absolutely disgusted with yourself. You'd rightly throw the keys in a skip before setting yourself on fire, which would be particularly easy in your highly flammable knock-off Gucci shell suit.
Strange comment. But if you drive a Porsche, standard
PMacanGTS said:
It's got more front than Blackpool and wouldn't look out of place zooming up the promenade, before doing donuts under the tower, to an adoring group of local scallies. Lots of instagram likes later and you'd be absolutely disgusted with yourself. You'd rightly throw the keys in a skip before setting yourself on fire, which would be particularly easy in your highly flammable knock-off Gucci shell suit.
What a load of old guff akadk said:
It’s not the messiah
Audi did this 10 years ago
Mid engine
4.2 V8 420PS
186mph
Supercar looks
Open metal gate manual
Aluminium spaceframe
The original R8 was priced at £7xk
Audi vs CorvetteAudi did this 10 years ago
Mid engine
4.2 V8 420PS
186mph
Supercar looks
Open metal gate manual
Aluminium spaceframe
The original R8 was priced at £7xk
420 PS vs 502 PS
317 lbft vs 470 lbft
4.6 sec vs sub-3 sec (to 60 mph)
£110k vs £75k
Do you really have a case here?
That being said, the tide has risen across the industry in terms of performance. So, relative to their contemporaries, the comparison is not outlandish, but relative to each other it is.
Having initially read this feature and thought that this is an interesting rethink of the Corvette but pushing it up into the £150k McLaren Audi R8 Ferrari territory is going to be difficult, but then got to the punchline of the price still being similar to before at under $/£80k - half the price of the aforementioned - it suddenly became astonishing.
This is what the Honda NSX and Audi R8 should be - the concept and dramatic mid engine experience of a McLaren or Ferrari for half the price rivalling a base 911. The original NSX in 1990 sold 3000 in the USA and 3000 in Japan for the first few years at a base 911 price (the badge conscious UK was a lost cause).
An RS Salesman in the UK's biggest Audi dealer told me he can't sell the latest R8 V10 new - it's too expensive. Showroom cars end up getting registered as demos so they can be discounted by £30k plus. he wishes they still made a V8 for under £100k which he could sell.
This is that car. they will sell plenty of these a year UK now it's in RHD if it comes in with the Z51 performance package for around £80k.
To think that currently if we want a mid-engined sports car for £60k plus we get droning 4 cylinder Porsches and Alpines.
I love this Corvette. Perhaps a last hurrah before electric everything takes over.
The configurator is good too. I like the dark burgundy red interior but can't decide on exterior yet. favouring silver for a more discrete look which is ironic with a 6.2 V8.
Also the silver grey interior in Blue
This is what the Honda NSX and Audi R8 should be - the concept and dramatic mid engine experience of a McLaren or Ferrari for half the price rivalling a base 911. The original NSX in 1990 sold 3000 in the USA and 3000 in Japan for the first few years at a base 911 price (the badge conscious UK was a lost cause).
An RS Salesman in the UK's biggest Audi dealer told me he can't sell the latest R8 V10 new - it's too expensive. Showroom cars end up getting registered as demos so they can be discounted by £30k plus. he wishes they still made a V8 for under £100k which he could sell.
This is that car. they will sell plenty of these a year UK now it's in RHD if it comes in with the Z51 performance package for around £80k.
To think that currently if we want a mid-engined sports car for £60k plus we get droning 4 cylinder Porsches and Alpines.
I love this Corvette. Perhaps a last hurrah before electric everything takes over.
The configurator is good too. I like the dark burgundy red interior but can't decide on exterior yet. favouring silver for a more discrete look which is ironic with a 6.2 V8.
Also the silver grey interior in Blue
Edited by GPH on Saturday 20th July 22:46
NDNDNDND said:
nickfrog said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
It is much bigger (longer, wider) and much heavier than before, like +160kg heavier.
It has Big V8, yes, but otherwise It is a generic mid-engined car.
Corvette Stingray it isn’t.
It is. The manufacturer decides that. It has Big V8, yes, but otherwise It is a generic mid-engined car.
Corvette Stingray it isn’t.
I'm also with those who say it doesn't really look like a Corvette. It has Corvette-y details and styling cues, etc. but the proportions just aren't Corvette.
I think it's a pity that the Corvette has lost its unique identity. Rather than be confident about what it is that makes a Corvette a Corvette, they've decided (again!) that they somehow need to justify themselves by copying the Europeans. People on here (weirdly, often on threads about the latest weird, niche-of-niche coupe-crossover-SUV-supercar) bang on about how choice is a good thing, and yet here's something genuinely different that's left the market and been replaced with something rather more generic.
I'm sure it'll be a good car. I'm sure it'll be faster, grippier, easier-to-drive etc, etc. but I wonder if it's lost a little of the Corvette's key important ingredients - character and fun.
Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 20th July 16:26
The Americans have never done RHD, save for the Chrysler 300 and latterly the Mustang with few exceptions. Quite why they haven't sold Corvettes, Camaros, Challengers and Vipers in RHD though, is strange?
After all it's not just the UK, it's Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Malta, Hong Kong, Japan, Cyprus, Singapore and probably many more i don't know about.
LHD isn't an issue for me here in a small car but i'd not want a pricey supercar with the wheel on the wrong side with our roads.
After all it's not just the UK, it's Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Malta, Hong Kong, Japan, Cyprus, Singapore and probably many more i don't know about.
LHD isn't an issue for me here in a small car but i'd not want a pricey supercar with the wheel on the wrong side with our roads.
Mellow Yellow said:
Current entry level 'vette is listed as £72,945 in the UK, it's going to be more than that. I reckon around £85k, undercut the 911 on price whilst offering better performance, not the prettiest thing but I'll forgive it that ....I want!
If I remember correctly that the UK get the z51 and magride standard. So higher spec car than us base. I would add 3k to the current c7 price. GPH said:
The configurator is good too. I like the dark burgundy red interior but can't decide on exterior yet. favouring silver for a more discrete look which is ironic with a 6.2 V8.
Ah, it's working now is it. They made a big deal about how great it was during the reveal only for it to completely fall over and become unusable when people tried it scottydoesntknow said:
GPH said:
The configurator is good too. I like the dark burgundy red interior but can't decide on exterior yet. favouring silver for a more discrete look which is ironic with a 6.2 V8.
Ah, it's working now is it. They made a big deal about how great it was during the reveal only for it to completely fall over and become unusable when people tried it scottydoesntknow said:
GPH said:
The configurator is good too. I like the dark burgundy red interior but can't decide on exterior yet. favouring silver for a more discrete look which is ironic with a 6.2 V8.
Ah, it's working now is it. They made a big deal about how great it was during the reveal only for it to completely fall over and become unusable when people tried it Grindle said:
Quite why they haven't sold Corvettes, Camaros, Challengers and Vipers in RHD though, is strange?
After all it's not just the UK, it's Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Malta, Hong Kong, Japan, Cyprus, Singapore and probably many more i don't know about.
Your enthusiasm is infectious, but there's little to no market in the countries you've listed. Take a look at median household incomes. Then look at operating costs. Or simply the price of petrol. After all it's not just the UK, it's Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Malta, Hong Kong, Japan, Cyprus, Singapore and probably many more i don't know about.
And don't forget to include heavy-handed government charges, as in Singapore, where automobile ownership is essentially repressed.
There is no contest between LHD and RHD; the former is massive and global and overwhelmingly represents the world's higher-earning households. I despair when people post here as if the jury is still out on this topic.
scottydoesntknow said:
unsprung said:
That's not what happened. It functioned normally for the better part of a day before they reduced, for some hours, the number of features that you could choose.
Fair enough. Not sure of the logic behind that on launch day but hey ho.If one must have a problem, surely this is the one to have. Let's hope that the chaps over at TVR manage to attract such interest.
LuS1fer said:
Mention has been made of cheap servicing costs.
Whilst that may be true compared to exotica, the one thing that made the Corvette cheap to maintain was the easy access to the engine.
Looking at the Jay Leno video, access now seems far harder which will push servicing costs up.
That's true. I was thinking, as others here have also commented, about the trade-offs that General Motors has made in moving to this "exotic" mid-engined format. The car is now more of your "master" and less of your "servant", if you see what I mean. No more fitting the two-metre tall Christmas tree in the hatchback and into the cabin, as with the C6.Whilst that may be true compared to exotica, the one thing that made the Corvette cheap to maintain was the easy access to the engine.
Looking at the Jay Leno video, access now seems far harder which will push servicing costs up.
Also: no quick-and-easy slapping a blower on top for an easy 50 percent boost in output.
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