Sunday 21st July 2019

Honda NSX Type S | Spotted

Only 248 examples of the Type S were ever made for the JDM; one of three in Britain is going to auction

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Two years since the launch of the second Honda NSX and the boost to the original model's desirability still hasn't tapered. Actually, according to used prices it's done the opposite, because in 2019 you'll need at least £40k to enter the NSX market and almost £10k more to find one with a manual gearbox. Honda's first supercar remains in hot demand; and rightfully so, because arguably now more than ever, it's a proper icon, the polar opposite of the lap time chasing performance metal seen in 2019.

The late 1990s cars in particular, with the more muscular 3.2-litre V6 and pre-facelift pop-up headlights, look to offer the greatest mix of tradition and power, retaining the look of the original but with 290hp. The 200cc-larger mid-mounted V6 benefitted from thinner cylinder liners to increase capacity and a freer-flowing exhaust.

By modern standards those numbers are barely sports car, let alone supercar, but the NSX was still capable of 0-62mph in 5.7 seconds and the top speed was 170mph. What really secured the NSX's status, anyway, was the way in which it drove. Even those of us not wearing loafers at Suzuka could appreciate its balance and the fizziness of the engine, which has enough low-down grunt but really comes alive above 6,500rpm - as per usual VTEC loveliness.

The location of that engine and sweetly matched chassis setup makes all NSXs a joy to steer, each variant offering all the feedback and responsiveness that you might hope from the layout; but which nobody expected from Honda before this car. The all-aluminium structure NSX (an innovation back in 1990) was famed for working its four corners evenly to provide the neutral mid-corner balance we all so desire, with accompanying throttle adjustability so it felt properly alive - particularly so when that 3.2-litre was added with its extra punch.

Honda did little to change the NSX formula through the NSX's 15-year life until 2005 - aside from the addition of a few 21st century mod-cons and flat headlights, of course - although it did produce several special editions, the best of which were sold in the Japanese domestic market. The two Type Rs were the most extreme, with savage weight reduction for both and a racier chassis setup, as well as incredible rarity. They are both now highly coveted cars.

A slightly softer, more rounded offering to the original 1992 Type R came five years later with the Type S, a sort of halfway house between the regular car and R. With the larger 3.2 V6, engine work took power to 290hp while weight was reduced to 1,320kg without removing things like air-con or sound deadening (a later S-Zero ditched these to lose a further 50kg). It created a usable but more focussed NSX, although Honda restricted production to 248 cars and never exported the model outside the country. Still, that didn't stop three making their way over to Britain in the following years.

Appropriately, one is now advertised on PH by Silverstone Auctions, going under the hammer at its sale on July 28th. It's immaculate in the pics, too - just look at the leather on those Recaro buckets, the freshness of that steering wheel skin and the shininess of the gear lever knob. You could eat your dinner off the engine it's so clean in the bay, and the silver paintwork appears equally as fresh. The estimate is £75-£85k, which represents a premium over standard NSXs of the era - see this yellow JDM car at £60k - though a Type S is a more special proposition, for all the reasons listed above.

That estimate still places it below the late NSXs, too, prices for which have been sky high for a while: this car has less than 20,000 miles. On the day, however, nobody knows what might happen with the Type S; two dedicated buyers might push that initial estimate closer to £100k. The classic JDM bubble shows little sign of bursting, basically, this NSX a fine exponent of all the we love about the genre. Could there be a place in your garage for it?

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SPECIFICATION - HONDA NSX TYPE S

Engine: 3,179cc V6
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 290@7,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 224@5,300rpm
0-62mph: 5.7sec
Top speed: 170mph
MPG: VTEC dependent
CO2: Hmm
Recorded mileage: 58,748
Price new: £59,995
Yours for: £75,000-£85,000 estimate

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[Evil.soup]

Never really understood the hype around these, i do appreciate the handling abilities but always thought the design was a little 80's and the performance average, certainly not supercar numbers. At the same time the likes of Mitsubishi and Subaru were making saloon cars with simular power and performance figures but in a user friendly package and for significantly cheaper. A supercar should be blasting saloon cars into the weeds!

[mackie1]

You can get saloon cars today that will keep a super car honest in a drag race so not much has really changed in that respect.

Don’t forget too that the Ferrari 348 and Porsche 993 were in the same ballpark at the time

Edited by mackie1 on Sunday 21st July 08:17

[gforceg]

That looks great (although silver is a bit dull). Judging by where the pictures were taken I wonder if Torque GT brought the car in or are selling it through that auction.

[Evil.soup]

mackie1 said:

You can get saloon cars today that will keep a super car honest in a drag race so not much has really changed in that respect.

Don’t forget too that the Ferrari 348 and Porsche 993 were in the same ballpark at the time

Edited by mackie1 on Sunday 21st July 08:17

Very true, but the types of saloon cars that can keep up with todays supercars are far from blue collar money. It kind of shows how far behind the likes of Mitsubishi and Subaru have fallen because both companies are capable of producing competitive cars.

[Diesel Meister]

These are so much more than the sum of their still impressive constituent parts. I seem to remember that they are more expensive to run than you might credit but not disproportionately so when you consider it as a 911 alternative. They sound and go beautifully without being frightening and just work as a tool for keen drivers. I have never owned one but but have enjoyed a few brief drives - there’s space for a Type R in my fantasy garage 😎

[gigglebug]

Evil.soup said:

Never really understood the hype around these, i do appreciate the handling abilities but always thought the design was a little 80's and the performance average, certainly not supercar numbers. At the same time the likes of Mitsubishi and Subaru were making saloon cars with simular power and performance figures but in a user friendly package and for significantly cheaper. A supercar should be blasting saloon cars into the weeds!

Evil.soup said:

mackie1 said:

You can get saloon cars today that will keep a super car honest in a drag race so not much has really changed in that respect.

Don’t forget too that the Ferrari 348 and Porsche 993 were in the same ballpark at the time

Edited by mackie1 on Sunday 21st July 08:17

Very true, but the types of saloon cars that can keep up with todays supercars are far from blue collar money. It kind of shows how far behind the likes of Mitsubishi and Subaru have fallen because both companies are capable of producing competitive cars.

Surely the obvious point your overlooking is the fact that in them days there was a ceiling on the amount of bhp that the manufacturers were meant to abide to in Japan, 280 I think it was, so it was largly irrelevant which price bracket the car was positioned in as it was still bound by the same restriction.

Edited by gigglebug on Sunday 21st July 09:39

[Don Roque]

An absolutely magnificent machine in every sense.

[gigglebug]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJJJKulLpZA

Some Type R lovelyness.

[GB4 JEV FFS]

This should have been posted in Honda subforum MODS, no? I mean either you apply your rules to everything or you end up looking like absolute <insert your favourite sarcastic pisstake insult describing dense individuals here>

PS I'm not suggesting that MODS are dense.
PPS this post is directly linked to MODS moving my topic about Fiat DCT gearbox https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... to a Fiat subforum, where nobody looks. I might have as well not posted it at all.
PPPS thanks for reminding me why I never post in General Gassing

[novus]

GB4 JEV FFS said:

This should have been posted in Honda subforum MODS, no? I mean either you apply your rules to everything or you end up looking like absolute <insert your favourite sarcastic pisstake insult describing dense individuals here>

PS I'm not suggesting that MODS are dense.
PPS this post is directly linked to MODS moving my topic about Fiat DCT gearbox https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... to a Fiat subforum, where nobody looks. I might have as well not posted it at all.
PPPS thanks for reminding me why I never post in General Gassing

This is a spotted article that happens to be about a Honda NSXthis week , yours was a thread you created on a fiat gearbox

Slightly different

[cerb4.5lee]

Evil.soup said:

Never really understood the hype around these, i do appreciate the handling abilities but always thought the design was a little 80's and the performance average, certainly not supercar numbers.

Completely agree and I've always felt exactly the same. I have always liked the way they look but their performance per pound(£) has always seemed woeful to me.

I guess that I've missed the point of them though with hindsight.

[GB4 JEV FFS]

novus said:

GB4 JEV FFS said:

This should have been posted in Honda subforum MODS, no? I mean either you apply your rules to everything or you end up looking like absolute <insert your favourite sarcastic pisstake insult describing dense individuals here>

PS I'm not suggesting that MODS are dense.
PPS this post is directly linked to MODS moving my topic about Fiat DCT gearbox https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... to a Fiat subforum, where nobody looks. I might have as well not posted it at all.
PPPS thanks for reminding me why I never post in General Gassing

This is a spotted article that happens to be about a Honda NSXthis week , yours was a thread you created on a fiat gearbox

Slightly different

Mine was a general topic, something you'd bring up in a pub which on here belongs to general gassing, I wasn't looking for an advice on how to rebuild a gearbox.

[Olivera]

anonymous said:

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Your early non-PAS car sounds great, however (IIRC) all the autos and all manuals from 95 (excluding R models) had early electric power steering that was widely regarded, like the S2000 EPAS, as dogst.

[mariscalcus]

Olivera said:

Your early non-PAS car sounds great, however (IIRC) all the autos and all manuals from 95 (excluding R models) had early electric power steering that was widely regarded, like the S2000 EPAS, as dogst.

Your total ignorance shows that you have never driven one never mind owned one. I have owned a NA2 pre-facelift 3.2 litre for 10 years and can assure any non-prejudiced individual that the steering, PAS included, like everything else about the car, is awesome.

[GB4 JEV FFS]

mariscalcus said:

Your total ignorance shows that you have never driven one never mind owned one. I have owned a NA2 pre-facelift 3.2 litre for 10 years and can assure any non-prejudiced individual that the steering, PAS included, like everything else about the car, is awesome.

Of course you would, that's the power of positive confirmation.

[big_rob_sydney]

My first encounter with an NSX was around 1999. It was much lower than everything else in the Sydney traffic, and looked at the time like it came from outer space.

After many k's, we eventually got to a set of lights. I was in my first WRX, which had a few mods, though nothing huge. It was close, but the NSX was left behind. I was surprised.

Fast forward a few years, and my last subaru (22b #301, which I owned for 7 years, modded with around 370 bhp) encountered another. I knew from my previous encounter what to expect; spinning all four BBS Elektra's off the line, the Honda was destroyed. We're talking mafia body dump here.

I have never rated the NSX, and if I had to choose between that, and another 22b, it's a no brainer.

[Arsecati]

I remember years ago these were going for under £15k, and I STILL chickened out from getting one. I can't even remember what the hell I bought instead, which tells you all you need to know of how much I REALLY made a massive fug up on that decision!

[gigglebug]

big_rob_sydney said:

My first encounter with an NSX was around 1999. It was much lower than everything else in the Sydney traffic, and looked at the time like it came from outer space.

After many k's, we eventually got to a set of lights. I was in my first WRX, which had a few mods, though nothing huge. It was close, but the NSX was left behind. I was surprised.

Fast forward a few years, and my last subaru (22b #301, which I owned for 7 years, modded with around 370 bhp) encountered another. I knew from my previous encounter what to expect; spinning all four BBS Elektra's off the line, the Honda was destroyed. We're talking mafia body dump here.

I have never rated the NSX, and if I had to choose between that, and another 22b, it's a no brainer.

That is quite literally the coolest story I have ever heard. You don't mind if use it the pub tonight do you?

[WJNB]

The backside is hugely out of proportion which would irritate me too much. The 'forward look' is pulling a bloated boot. The spoiler just makes things worse.

[redroadster]

Was a car I always liked in red ,when other exotic cars were unreliable this had the looks but had reasonable running costs ,that's why comparing suburu coupe to this makes no sense .