Latest Audi and BMW badging WTF?

Latest Audi and BMW badging WTF?

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Court_S

12,764 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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I get the BMW naming conventions but the Audi one means sweet FA to me other than the bigger the number, the more powerful it is.

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
BMW have had nonsense numbers on some models for what 20 years
For over 80 years, the straight 6, 2.0L 328.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_328

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Shiv_P said:
740e is a 2.0 4 pot
And the new 745e is a 3.0l 6 pot but they had the e23 745i which was actually 3.2l 6 pot turbo back in 1979.



silentbrown

8,793 posts

115 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Dave Hedgehog said:
he discovered Mercs idea of 45 and Audi's are very different LOL
I suppose it's nothing new. A35s...



The Surveyor

7,576 posts

236 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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McLaren have this sorted perfectly across their line-up.

570s = 570ps (562BHP)
600lt = 600ps (591BHP)
650s = 650ps (641BHP)
675lt = 675ps (666BHP)
720s = 720ps (710BHP)

This makes perfect sense to me and I still don't understand it when people say that the McLaren numbering is confusing.

Now I have a new Audi, an A4 35TFSI Avant. Its a 2 litre petrol and I have absolutely no idea what the 35 means other than its a designation of power output of some type, and that most of the time it doesn't feel like it has enough.

Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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silentbrown said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
he discovered Mercs idea of 45 and Audi's are very different LOL
I suppose it's nothing new. A35s...


i do like that 35 biggrin

Plate spinner

17,649 posts

199 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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craigjm said:
Weird how it has gaps...

Audi’s new engine badges
25: 80kW and under (up to 106hp)
30: 81kW to 91kW (107hp to 127hp)
35: 110kW to 120kW (145hp to 159hp)
40: 125kW to 150kW (165hp to 198hp)
45: 169kW to 185kW (223hp to 244hp)
50: 210kW to 230kW (278hp to 304hp)
55: 245kW to 275kW (324hp to 363hp)
60: 320kW to 340kW (423hp to 449hp)
70: 400kW and above (529hp and above)
Confusingly, there are gaps between horsepower categories that mean some of Audi’s current range doesn’t appear to fit into any of these groups. For example, a 3.0-litre A6 BiTDI produces 320hp – not enough to earn a ’55’ badge, but too much for a ’50’. Likewise, the entire Q7 range doesn’t seem to fit in.

E65Ross

34,946 posts

211 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Notanotherturbo said:
Wills2 said:
The badge on the back of a BMW hasn't always been a direct reflection of the engine capacity, this isn't "new" news.

It was for donkeys years except for the odd exception like the E28 525E. It's only in recent years this has changed, and to be fair it was always close smile
What about the BMW E23 745i which, back in the 70s, had a 3.3 litre engine? It has generally meant engine performance, but their turbocharged cars have always been bigger numbers than the engine capacity. Nothing new.

I can't see why it's a problem to be honest, bigger number means more power. Seems to make sense. It's just that you aren't used to the numbers.

silentbrown

8,793 posts

115 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Plate spinner said:
...that mean some of Audi’s current range doesn’t appear to fit into any of these groups. For example, a 3.0-litre A6 BiTDI produces 320hp
That's hasn't been in Audi's current range since WLTP. Or rather, it's reappeared with a few tweaks as the S6...

Plate spinner

17,649 posts

199 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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silentbrown said:
Plate spinner said:
...that mean some of Audi’s current range doesn’t appear to fit into any of these groups. For example, a 3.0-litre A6 BiTDI produces 320hp
That's hasn't been in Audi's current range since WLTP. Or rather, it's reappeared with a few tweaks as the S6...
Makes sense, I just copied the CarWow article.

Does seem weird though that the the number system has gaps...

E65Ross

34,946 posts

211 months

Monday 22nd July 2019
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Earlier today I spotted a Vauxhall Grandland. On the back it just said "turbo"....absolutely NO indication on engine size, what a travesty!